View Full Version : Stamped FI fuel tanks now avialable


Musclerodz
Mar 16th, 08, 8:36 PM
Brand new product for this year are these high quality reproduction gas tanks made in North America. They are ni-terne plated, similar to original, not the painted crap that comes from overseas. Tanks inlcude the fuel pump, sending unit gasket and lock ring. Many are also available in stainless steel as well. Priced around $699 for steel and $999 for stainless. As incentive, we will be shipping these tanks for FREE! Also is you want a high quality original tank, we can get those as well and will sell for roughly the same price and the painted tanks around $139. Sorry no free shipping on those. Please allow 6-8 weeks for delivery.

novaderrik
Mar 20th, 08, 2:53 PM
what part of "North America" are they made in? that could be anything from Panama to Canada, from the Aleutian islands of Alaska to the west half of Iceland..
just curious.

Derek69SS
Mar 20th, 08, 5:41 PM
Are they baffled?

Musclerodz
Mar 21st, 08, 12:01 PM
what part of "North America" are they made in? that could be anything from Panama to Canada, from the Aleutian islands of Alaska to the west half of Iceland..
just curious.Canada

Musclerodz
Mar 21st, 08, 12:07 PM
Are they baffled?
yes

elcamino66
Mar 21st, 08, 1:27 PM
Does the fuel pump set in a well?

Musclerodz
Mar 21st, 08, 6:44 PM
Does the fuel pump set in a well?
yes

novaderrik
Mar 21st, 08, 7:50 PM
do you sell them for a 74 MonteCarlo?

Musclerodz
Mar 23rd, 08, 12:46 AM
do you sell them for a 74 MonteCarlo?
Only carb available at this time

lev8trmn
Mar 23rd, 08, 9:24 PM
Brand new product for this year are these high quality reproduction gas tanks made in North America. They are ni-terne plated, similar to original, not the painted crap that comes from overseas. Tanks inlcude the fuel pump, sending unit gasket and lock ring. Many are also available in stainless steel as well. Priced around $699 for steel and $999 for stainless. As incentive, we will be shipping these tanks for FREE! Also is you want a high quality original tank, we can get those as well and will sell for roughly the same price and the painted tanks around $139. Sorry no free shipping on those. Please allow 6-8 weeks for delivery.

Is this the same tank as here? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-72-GM-CARS-FUEL-INJECTION-FUEL-TANK-COMPLETE-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ10076QQihZ013QQitemZ230218934975 Can you beat this price with shipping? I would rather buy from a Sponser from TC but you'll have to sharpen your pencil. ;) Thanks, Bob

Musclerodz
Mar 23rd, 08, 11:04 PM
Is this the same tank as here? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-72-GM-CARS-FUEL-INJECTION-FUEL-TANK-COMPLETE-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ10076QQihZ013QQitemZ230218934975 Can you beat this price with shipping? I would rather buy from a Sponser from TC but you'll have to sharpen your pencil. ;) Thanks, Bob
I can match Parts Place price on these tanks. That is our policy to do so when I can. We will be placing an order on these tanks next week, so let us know ASAP so we can include your order if you are ready to do so.

wht64
Mar 24th, 08, 8:56 AM
what are the specs on the sending unit ? (Ohms empty/full) Are the lines coming from the pump assy hard mounted or can they be removed and re-routed ? Military discount ?

Musclerodz
Mar 24th, 08, 11:07 AM
what are the specs on the sending unit ? (Ohms empty/full) Are the lines coming from the pump assy hard mounted or can they be removed and re-routed ? Military discount ?0-95 ohms, 85-115 psi, 50-60 gph, lines are hard mounted. Discount mentioned above. These tanks retail for $699 and I will price match Parts Place at $595 plus shipping.

Neal Wright
Mar 24th, 08, 12:02 PM
What are the pump spec's? Will it work with a carb 7psi return style regulator?
Thanks, Neal

Musclerodz
Mar 24th, 08, 4:10 PM
What are the pump spec's? Will it work with a carb 7psi return style regulator?
Thanks, NealYou would probably burn the pump up regulated that low. These tanks are available for carb applications as well at a much cheaper price. Pump specs listed in the post above.

Neal Wright
Mar 24th, 08, 4:26 PM
0-95 ohms, 85-115 psi, 50-60 gph, lines are hard mounted. Discount mentioned above. These tanks retail for $699 and I will price match Parts Place at $595 plus shipping.
Is this what you're talking about? 85-115psi? I don't know where those spec's come from, but they are way too high! Most EFI pumps should run 38-58psi ... maybe a little higher.

Can you give me details on the pump spec's ... as in make/model?

Also, can you give more details on the sump/baffle design? I'd really like to look at one of these tanks ... but simply saying it has a baffle doesn't mean much.

Thanks, Neal

Musclerodz
Mar 24th, 08, 5:25 PM
Is this what you're talking about? 85-115psi? I don't know where those spec's come from, but they are way too high! Most EFI pumps should run 38-58psi ... maybe a little higher.

Can you give me details on the pump spec's ... as in make/model?

Also, can you give more details on the sump/baffle design? I'd really like to look at one of these tanks ... but simply saying it has a baffle doesn't mean much.

Thanks, NealThat is out the pump pressure. You will have line loss and should have a regulator at the motor for fine tuningdepending on your specific fuel needs. I am trying to get a specific make on the pumps. The company that is making these tanks is an OEM supplier to FORD, so quality and design is there, not some fly by night operation. I am sure the pumps are an OEM replacement of some sorts so they should be easy to replace if one ever goes out. Give me a day or two to find and post info. I will also post clear pics of the pump well once the first batch of tanks arrive.

lev8trmn
Mar 24th, 08, 6:49 PM
What is shipping to 28806 North Carolina?

Derek69SS
Mar 24th, 08, 7:04 PM
Any reviews on the noise levels of the pump? I currently have a "Tanks Inc." drop-in setup, and I'm not happy with the droning whine of the pump. :( (also need a better baffle setup as well)

Musclerodz
Mar 24th, 08, 11:23 PM
I don't but should have some feed back very soon. We will be installing one of these tanks in the V8TV show 66 GTO project that will be on the Power Tour in a matter of weeks!

Musclerodz
Mar 31st, 08, 6:38 PM
Found out a little info today. The pump/sending unit is a propietary part built like the new units you would find on a modern vehicle. The pumps themselves are suppose to be an OEM replacement pump, but I don't know from what vehicle. The sending unit part, if it fails, will have to be purchased from the people that make the tanks.

AJW
Apr 1st, 08, 1:36 PM
How about a price on the sending unit, so we know what it would cost to replace.
Thanks
AJW

eabride
Apr 1st, 08, 2:31 PM
Mike - Will the pump/sending unit assembly have an integral surge tank? This is what is found on nearly all current production vehicles (at least from the big 3) and would address the baffling issue better than most in-tank baffles.

Thanks,
Eric

lev8trmn
Apr 1st, 08, 8:40 PM
some detailed specifics would be nice too. Thanks!

Musclerodz
Apr 2nd, 08, 10:29 AM
How about a price on the sending unit, so we know what it would cost to replace.
Thanks
AJWThere is not a replacement part number for them yet is what I was told. Tanks are only a couple months old, so it may be a couple months before they are released individually.

Musclerodz
Apr 2nd, 08, 10:30 AM
Mike - Will the pump/sending unit assembly have an integral surge tank? This is what is found on nearly all current production vehicles (at least from the big 3) and would address the baffling issue better than most in-tank baffles.

Thanks,
EricI will ask.

Importtech
Apr 2nd, 08, 5:17 PM
I would be interested in one for $595 as well for my 68 as I'm tired of the inline setup I have.. I'm alittle curious about the listed pump output as well... that seems pretty high. I have a regulated setup already which is set at 40psi. Not sure what my regulator could handle but its a good one. Would be great if you could supply an
oem Number or replacement pump number that I could research.

Musclerodz
Apr 2nd, 08, 8:03 PM
I would be interested in one for $595 as well for my 68 as I'm tired of the inline setup I have.. I'm alittle curious about the listed pump output as well... that seems pretty high. I have a regulated setup already which is set at 40psi. Not sure what my regulator could handle but its a good one. Would be great if you could supply an
oem Number or replacement pump number that I could research.
We have several tanks on order, waiting for them to show. I don't know why they chose to set the pump pressure so high, except to be able to use one pump for multiple applications. I am waiting for phone calls to be returned so hopefully I can find out why shortly.

vrooom3440
Apr 4th, 08, 3:14 PM
It will be interesting to see the insides of these tanks... and see how close they are to what I built for myself a few months back ;-)

Sounds like there are pretty close.

bikeron
Apr 4th, 08, 7:11 PM
Mike, I use my car for track days and the baffle issue (or surge tank) is a big one. Right now I have two pumps in series to make it all work (the in-tank Bosch pump is too small) and I need to run no less than about half a tank on the track.
I would love to be able to run down to under a quarter tank (like on my Lincolin LS).
I'm very much interested if your tank has taken these issues into consideration.

Ron

Musclerodz
Apr 7th, 08, 11:21 AM
Well, they are claiming proprietary information on the pump. They won't give that info, so I will have to wait for the tanks I do have on order to show up. They did say, it will need to have a regulator installed. Duhhhhh....

Unfortunately I am not dealing with a small company, this is a worldwide OEM manufacturer so talking to the CEO is not going to happen as with most companies I deal with.

bikeron
Apr 8th, 08, 1:23 AM
Mike, Thanks for your efforts. If you could post some pics of the pump and the sump and baffles it would be great.

Ron

vrooom3440
Apr 8th, 08, 1:45 AM
Hey Ron, have you seen this thread:

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192262&highlight=MU-2021

It will be interesting to see how similiar this new tank is to my setup. Seems to me like a really simple/clean way to handle EFI fuel supply.

bikeron
Apr 8th, 08, 9:08 PM
Hey Ron, have you seen this thread:

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192262&highlight=MU-2021

It will be interesting to see how similiar this new tank is to my setup. Seems to me like a really simple/clean way to handle EFI fuel supply.

Steve, I did see your post, thought it was great. I would still rather buy the thing all done though. By the way, have you brought yours out on a twisty road with a tank that is a quarter full or so and see if you loose fuel pressure in corners?
Also, are you going to go to the 19th or the 26th get together at Sacto race way?
Ron

vrooom3440
Apr 9th, 08, 1:40 AM
Steve, I did see your post, thought it was great. I would still rather buy the thing all done though. By the way, have you brought yours out on a twisty road with a tank that is a quarter full or so and see if you loose fuel pressure in corners?
Also, are you going to go to the 19th or the 26th get together at Sacto race way?
Ron
I have not finished the EFI conversion. Family and work limit my wrenching time so I have to take it a step at a time. I did a lot of research on EFI fuel system solutions and rejected two prior design concepts before committing to this one. The internal surge tank solution is used by many of the recent OEM solutions. In particular the Ford Taurus has a very wide and very flat tank which uses the internal modularized pump/surge tank. I figure if it worked in that tank it will work in an A-body tank.

A buddy bought a baffled EFI tank and honestly I really think the internal surge tank is a superior solution. The baffles are not a complete seal and will only slow down the movement of fuel whether it is going out of the pump cell or into the pump cell. The only exception to this I have seen are some of the in tank boxes produced by Fuel Safe with check valves in the sides. Those were my second generation of rejected design BTW. My first generation was an external surge tank running two fuel pumps.

The actual fuel pump used in these modules is fairly generic and higher capacity pumps are available to swap in. I chose a module for a truck with the notion that a truck would have a larger engine and be expected/designed to work at higher output levels for longer periods. In other words have a higher capacity fuel pump output.

I am not going to be able to make the 26th Sacto Raceway portion of the gathering :( I am committed to an event at Camp Lassen that is scheduled to run until 5:30 PM. As soon as I can get out of there I plan on boogeying back and try and make the later part of the BBQ after about a 2 1/2 hour drive. I am hoping I can get out earlier...

SRGN
Apr 17th, 08, 9:51 PM
What size fitting is on the tank for pressure? I bought one of these and it's not an AN fitting. It's a Spectra GM 34 FI tank.

Musclerodz
Apr 18th, 08, 1:29 PM
What size fitting is on the tank for pressure? I bought one of these and it's not an AN fitting. It's a Spectra GM 34 FI tank.3/8" SAE 45* flare fitting.

SRGN
Apr 18th, 08, 2:21 PM
Thanks, do you sell an adapter from that to -8 AN?

Musclerodz
Apr 21st, 08, 10:22 AM
Thanks, do you sell an adapter from that to -8 AN?I don;t think there is an adapter made to go direct from SAE to AN. More than likely, you will need to either convert the tank to AN, or the line to SAE, and then use a proper reducer fitting.

Musclerodz
Apr 28th, 08, 3:20 PM
Here is a couple pics of the well and pump unit. it is an anti-surge syle pump and with the well like the modern factory tanks, it is superior to a baffled tank.

Q-ship
Apr 29th, 08, 12:24 PM
Does this tank come with different filler necks for the various applications. Specficly I would be looking for a 71 Monte Carlo.

drptop70ss
Apr 29th, 08, 10:03 PM
any chance they are making them for 64-67s? I need one for a 65 442, should be the same as a 65 chevelle.

Musclerodz
Apr 30th, 08, 1:42 AM
Does this tank come with different filler necks for the various applications. Specficly I would be looking for a 71 Monte Carlo.
Yes it is available

Musclerodz
Apr 30th, 08, 1:43 AM
any chance they are making them for 64-67s? I need one for a 65 442, should be the same as a 65 chevelle.
yes, should be the same as the '66 GTO which we just shipped to V8TV.

V8TV
Jul 9th, 08, 10:00 PM
Just an update... we used this tank in our '66 GTO Project and were very happy with it. Goes in easy, we converted the feed and return to AN fittings using compression fittings, and it worked out really nicely. The pump is very quiet. We'll use these tanks on more EFI project conversions in the future for sure. Thanks Mike for the help and great parts!

http://v8tvshow.com/images/stories/66_GTO/GTOGallery/66GTO5.21.08_s_015.jpg

350ss
Jul 10th, 08, 12:01 AM
Any pump starvations issues, esp when fuel level is low? (below 1/8 tank?)

Musclerodz
Jul 11th, 08, 10:15 AM
Any pump starvations issues, esp when fuel level is low? (below 1/8 tank?)Tank uses a well instead of baffles just like all the modern vehicles do so there should be no issues and non have been reported to me.

Mike

350ss
Jul 29th, 08, 12:01 PM
Hey Mike, could you tell me what the inside diameter of the sender hole is? I might have to add another pump and this dimension would be important. Do you guys sell the tank and sender unit separately? Thanks!

usc2001gc
Jul 29th, 08, 10:04 PM
Does it use a stock style gas cap or a newer style that may be better at preventing gas splash with smaller diameter unleaded pump nozzles?

Musclerodz
Jul 30th, 08, 10:12 AM
Hey Mike, could you tell me what the inside diameter of the sender hole is? I might have to add another pump and this dimension would be important. Do you guys sell the tank and sender unit separately? Thanks!
I pretty certain the hole is stock dimension. I have pics somewhere. The tank is not sold seperately.

Musclerodz
Jul 30th, 08, 10:14 AM
Does it use a stock style gas cap or a newer style that may be better at preventing gas splash with smaller diameter unleaded pump nozzles?It is a stock cap.

350ss
Jul 30th, 08, 11:41 AM
I pretty certain the hole is stock dimension. I have pics somewhere. The tank is not sold seperately.

If the tank isn't sold separately, I sure hope the sending unit is. I would hate to have the fuel level sender or the pump take a crap and have to spend $700 on a whole new tank setup :(

Musclerodz
Jul 30th, 08, 9:45 PM
If the tank isn't sold separately, I sure hope the sending unit is. I would hate to have the fuel level sender or the pump take a crap and have to spend $700 on a whole new tank setup :(Yes, they will service the pump and sending unit seperately if you have a failure. The pump is a OE unit that you may be able to match up at your local parts store. If the sender fails, you will have to go back to Spectra.

harponi
Jul 31st, 08, 3:35 PM
I installed on of these in my 69 Camaro with TPI last winter. The pump is much quieter than my old frame mounted one, and the it fit great. The pump looks to be same size as the OEM one in my old S10 and full sized Chevy trucks.

jks67SS396
Dec 8th, 08, 1:55 PM
So, to bring this back...

CAn i get a tank for a 67 Camaro? Also, need a bigger pump. ive got a 540 BBC and going efi. perferably -8 or bigger lines... and would need something at least 800 hp in case i want to grow.

Is it available? if so, how much and whats it include (more specific, the better)

thanks!

Musclerodz
Dec 9th, 08, 2:25 AM
So, to bring this back...

CAn i get a tank for a 67 Camaro? Also, need a bigger pump. ive got a 540 BBC and going efi. perferably -8 or bigger lines... and would need something at least 800 hp in case i want to grow.

Is it available? if so, how much and whats it include (more specific, the better)

thanks!yes, http://musclerodzstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=617 . Line is 3/8" and I have info at work where to get an upgraded pump. Same pump as used used in the 4th gen Camaro upgrades. Tank is complete ready to bolt in and use.Pump specifics are in the product link.

jks67SS396
Dec 9th, 08, 9:22 AM
ive talked to spectre premium ad they told me that the gm32AFI tank does not have the option of upgrading the pump and doesnt come with a pump delete option. So can you prvide a 300 lph pump in the assembly? or, rather, provide the tank alone with the efi provisions there so that i can add my own...

thanks!

Musclerodz
Dec 9th, 08, 11:47 AM
ive talked to spectre premium ad they told me that the gm32AFI tank does not have the option of upgrading the pump and doesnt come with a pump delete option. So can you prvide a 300 lph pump in the assembly? or, rather, provide the tank alone with the efi provisions there so that i can add my own...

thanks!The upgrade does not come from Spectra and they will not sell seperate at this time. My customer got a Walbro pump from Racetronix, but is only good to 255 lph and 600-700 hp. Aeromotive show an inline efi pump as well, but it is only good to 700hp also. You may have to stick with an Aeromotive A1000, but it will not work with this tank.

jks67SS396
Dec 9th, 08, 12:45 PM
yeah, thats what i figured. i dont want to buy 2 pumps.. the one in the kit and the one i will use. keep us posted is this is an option in the future

thanks

pizzi-man
Jan 12th, 09, 12:27 AM
I was wondering if these tanks are made for a 66 el camino and would the pump be located where the stock sending unit is now.

Musclerodz
Jan 12th, 09, 12:44 PM
They are not made not 64-67 El Camino, sorry.