Looks like alot of you folks were busy pulling wrenches today. I messed around with some fiberglass and made some good headway on molding in my hood scoop. Pretty happy with how it's turning out. Even got both my sons to help with the initial fitting. :)

Still more to do, but all I can do for now is sit and watch the resin dry. :rolleyes:

Here's a bogus little slideshow I made with photobucket just for fun. http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/?action=view&current=883ce90e.pbw

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/cuttingandglassingscoop002.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/cuttingandglassingscoop007.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/cuttingandglassingscoop008.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/cuttingandglassingscoop009.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/cuttingandglassingscoop004.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/cuttingandglassingscoop005.jpg

Look'in good John!

Looking good. So how did it feel cutting that huge hole in that new tilt front piece? I like the scoop, it will look killer when you get it all done.
Frank

Looks good John. Hope your weather is better then mine. Also, I tried the slide show, but for some reason, it didn't work.

Enjoy. Keep us posted.

Looking good. So how did it feel cutting that huge hole in that new tilt front piece?

I was a little apprehensive. :D

I pm'd Greg for any last minute tips, and he shared an interesting story with me.:thumbsup:

I just really didn't want to botch the whole thing.:sad:

Once I got the zipdisc up to about 12000 rpm, it was hair straight back and look out world ! :beers:

Ahhh, it's after 5pm...time to wash out the fiberglass flavor with a cold one.

Baldwin Motion Chevelle here we come! :thumbsup:

Nice work John! Looks like you have everything under control. Keep us updated with pics of the progress. After filling/smoothing the top, I still recommend you lay a light layer of glass from the hood to the scoop to cover all the filler. That should keep it from cracking. A little finishing filler and it will look like a single piece. :thumbsup:

Just a little update.

A good bodyshop friend of mine referred me to micro fibres for the top side of the scoop. Mix it in with resin and catalyst until it is of a peanut butter consistency. Then smooth it in with a popsicle stick or tongue depresser.

It's setting up right now in my garage really nice and slow like. The slower the kick, the less likely to crack.

Brett, once this is totally cured, I will run a 4" strip down the scoop and glass it in. Then cover it with more micro fibre when it sets.

This is the way to go with this fiberglassing routine.

This is the microfiber stuff...really powdery


http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/2ndglassscoop002.jpg


All mixed up and smoothed into the gaps


http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/2ndglassscoop001.jpg

The new view from the driver's seat...I like it ! :thumbsup:


http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/2ndglassscoop003.jpg

That micro fiber stuff sounds great. :yes:

Looks awesome John.:thumbsup:

I'm thinking an open top element like the K&N or the Summit version(the one I just picked up) might work really well sucking cool air in through that big ol' hole in your hood.:yes:

John,

The hood project looks great!
The Driver's View is like that of RatVette!
Keep the progress pics coming!

Yea that micro fiber is like very fine chopped fiberglass. Dont get it in your arms! We called it milled fiber mix where I worked and it was great for putting places where you didnt want it to run and could create nice structural fillets. The resin is much more likely to not crack with that in it.

Looks good. Nice work!

John, I am not so sure you should put the microfibre over the glass afterwards. That stuff is pretty hard to sand. Like I said earlier, I would fill in what you have now with filler so it looks nice, then use fine glass over that. Dont use the heavy mat that you used on the bottom. Then all that will be required is some light finishing filler. Just my opinion of course. :cool: :beers:

What are your plans for painting it? Going to leave it primer? I would at least paint the inside all flat black and then get the outside the same primer color.

PS: Resin doesnt "dry", it cures.. Guys I used to work with branded this in me as it is one of their largest pet peeves. ;) :thumbsup:

I'm thinking an open top element like the K&N or the Summit version(the one I just picked up) might work really well sucking cool air in through that big ol' hole in your hood.:yes:

My plans exactly, Greg.

John, I am not so sure you should put the microfibre over the glass afterwards. That stuff is pretty hard to sand. Like I said earlier, I would fill in what you have now with filler so it looks nice, then use fine glass over that. Dont use the heavy mat that you used on the bottom. Then all that will be required is some light finishing filler. Just my opinion of course. :cool: :beers:

What are your plans for painting it? Going to leave it primer? I would at least paint the inside all flat black and then get the outside the same primer color.

PS: Resin doesnt "dry", it cures.. Guys I used to work with branded this in me as it is one of their largest pet peeves. ;) :thumbsup:

Point taken on the finishing tips. I still need to build it up a bit from the natural centerline on the hood to meet up with the rising centerline on the scoop. So probably one more small application of the microfibre tonight. Then lightly glass and fill.

As far as paint goes, my intent is to go satin black under the hood, and maybe a skull and crossbones on the inside of the scoop a la DeathProof :D

If I can get much of the remaining bodywork accomplished on the rest of the car, I'll splash the whole thing epoxy primer, then $$$ permitting, I have a friend who will finish the bodywork and paint it out for me. Color choice at this time is silver with black '70 SS stripes. This should just about complete the total bastardization of this '68. ;)

Thanks to all of you with your words of encouragement.

While looking at my pics you can tell I am a fan of SS stripes on 68/69. However, because of your hood design, can I suggest you do something else to accent the baldwin motion feel of it? Perhaps something more Yenko, Mopar shaker style, or Baldwin like to keep the flavors all the same. Just wanted you to think it through..

PS: Are you still planning on installing the section you cut out to separate the filter from the hot engine bay? Dont forget to add in some bracing on the rear which you removed for the scoop.

I'd have to think twice about the SS stripe's with the L-88 Hood. Maybe the BW thing, or a wide flat black stripe like the older Vette's.

How about something like this in flat black?

http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/corvette-photos/data/669/1P10100371.JPG

http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/Corvette/69ZL1/69ZL1Vette.jpg

http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c3/massvette//1979/9t1.jpg

Good recommendations. I think this is the approach to take.
I don't like the idea of painting the roof though. A little too tacky even for me.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/69ZL1Vette.jpg

http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c3/massvette//1979/9t1.jpg

Someone call Mark Hamil- We've found his missing corvette! ;)


I like the idea of just the short little hood stripe, then no other stripes- that would be bad ass :thumbsup:

Corvette Summer was lame even when it came out! I like the side pipes though, Brett needs a pair:D

Corvette Summer was lame even when it came out! I like the side pipes though, Brett needs a pair:D

If it helps my ground clearance issue! An el camino with sidepipes, sweet! :thumbsup: :sad:

I agree with others, no roof stripe, just hood.

I remember seeing an El Camino with side pipe's at a car show, it wasn't soooo bad.

I like the Red Vette, the best.:thumbsup:

Good recommendations. I think this is the approach to take.
I don't like the idea of painting the roof though. A little too tacky even for me.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/69ZL1Vette.jpg

Exactly! That will look killer and PLEASE leave the hood stripe off! Looking good. Keep posting pics as you go.
Frank

Exactly! That will look killer and PLEASE leave the hood stripe off! Looking good. Keep posting pics as you go.
Frank

Do you mean roof ? Or do you really mean don't stripe the hood like the white 'vette ?

Here is my take on it. Do what every you want its your car. This is just me but I wouldnt ask anyone what their opinion is on what color I should paint,what hood should I put on,what wheels I should get. They dont have to drive it...I do so that part is up to me. Now HP stuff yes I ask:yes:
Again thats just me.
BTW the hood looks good. I really like the view from the drivers seat. I would like to put a cowl hood on my 66 just to get more room to run a spacer on the carb.

I would like to put a cowl hood on my 66 just to get more room to run a spacer on the carb.

NO, don't do that. You should............

Here is my take on it. Do what every you want its your car. This is just me but I wouldnt ask anyone what their opinion is on what color I should paint,what hood should I put on,what wheels I should get. They dont have to drive it...I do so that part is up to me. Now HP stuff yes I ask:yes:
Again thats just me.
BTW the hood looks good. I really like the view from the drivers seat. I would like to put a cowl hood on my 66 just to get more room to run a spacer on the carb.


While I see your point, there is nothing wrong with asking someone elses opinion. We arent telling him what to do and in the end he will do what makes him happy. People dont always know everything that is out there and I have been saved from making alot of mistakes by simply asking opinions. Besides, alot of people have bad taste.

Kevin, if you put something I think is stupid on your car, I will criticize you. ;) :D :yes:

If this guy would have asked, we could have saved him alot of trouble. :yes: :sad:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g34/Brettd85/untitled2.jpg

. I would like to put a cowl hood on my 66 just to get more room to run a spacer on the carb.

Under the carb with solinoids.

Under the carb with solinoids.

I was trying to be sneaky:yes:

BTW Brett that yellow Elky looks awesome

NO, don't do that. You should............

Its ok Dave I value your opinion:D

BTW Brett that yellow Elky looks awesome

You disgust me! I wanna blow chunks! :yes:

You disgust me! I wanna blow chunks! :yes:

Ok Brett I give. That thing should be crushed just after they transplant that motor into my chevelle.

I think that engine should go into the back of my Camino and then I will pull awesome wheelies. Oh wait, people have already done that... :(

I think that engine should go into the back of my Camino and then I will pull awesome wheelies. Oh wait, people have already done that... :(

We can put into the front of my XB and do wheelies. I dont think anyone has done or would want to do that yet:D

Any progress John?

Laid some glass on the top side of the scoop, and it hit really nice. It's feeling very solid. Just need to do a little sanding and filling, and it should be paint ready. Then I'll do a bit of re-inforcing on the under side. Then figure out how to mount those dzus fasteners and make it all real clean.

Did get all my bumper brackets wire wheeled and painted. Now we're ready to hang the new glass bumpers. Slowly starting to look like a car again.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/hood002.jpg

Nice work John, keep it up!

So when is the projected date we get to see the velle at Bremerton? What E.T. are you shooting for? I guess I will go heads up against you now that I know you wont grenade the rearend next to me:thumbsup:

Thanks for the encouragement.

Brian, I hope to make it down mid June or early July for another Test and Tune weekend at Bremerton. After a few shakedown runs up here at our little shorty track, it'll probably be ready enough for the long run.

As far as ET goes, I am very curious myself. I want to put some miles on the engine....and the driver, before I spray this thing with 100 or 125 shot.

Maybe you guys could give me a ballpark idea of what it should run. Here's a few details :

454 040 over 2bolt with 781 heads and 12 cc domed pistons...all balanced
Lunati 60203 hyd flat tappet cam, new springs, pushrods
Performer intake, Holley 750 vac sec carb
1 7/8 primary headers...marginal exhaust
turbo 400 w/ street and strip internals, 2400 stall convertor
and will have 4.10 12 bolt with 27" ??? slicks

Body lightened considerably...glass front end, no inner fenders, no interior, no wipers, heater, radio, fiberglass bumpers...but added weight for 10 pt cage.

up to a 125 shot for later.

Any guesses with and without the laughing gas ?

I think you will give that turbo Scion thing a good run for its money. ;)

John,

I assure you it will be faster than my Elky!
For sure mid 12s without issue NA
Mid 11s with the squeeze and tracktime.
Probably a lot better in store for you when you remove the street cam and put in a big boy cam and a larger race-oriented carb. Something to do NEXT winter!

I'll guess mid 11's with the weight loss, maybe mid to high 10's on the bottle with some more converter and a bigger carb.

I think you will give that turbo Scion thing a good run for its money. ;)

The Scion is retired and the 66 will be out to play.

Maybe you guys could give me a ballpark idea of what it should run.


It should run faster than me, Ben, Greg, Kevin, etc:D

BrIan & BrYan, Loader1, and the Doc should be able to give you a run for your money:yes: Just be sure to wake BrYan up at the tree:D:D

[QUOTE=gotago;1761217]It should run faster than me, Ben, Greg, Kevin, etc:D

I agree Mark but only for a little while.:D

[quote=gotago;1761217]It should run faster than me, Ben, Greg, Kevin, etc:D

I agree Mark but only for a little while.:D

Love the scion ET in your signature:yes::D

[quote=Kevin R;1761365]

Love the scion ET in your signature:yes::D

Ya saw that huh:D I will race anything. I tried to get Frank to bring out his mini van on the 21st to run against the XB but he was scared.:yes:

I am gona say 11.80-12.10 on motor. :yes:

Plenty to do some damage to most of the young wipper snappers in the group:D

Frank could also make you sweat for the big end, I'll bet he's in the 11s now too:thumbsup:

[quote=gotago;1761564]

Ya saw that huh:D I will race anything. I tried to get Frank to bring out his mini van on the 21st to run against the XB but he was scared.:yes:

If I coulda convinced the wife to stop by on the way back from the airport that Saturday, we could have run her Xterra, its a 6 speed and pretty zippy. That went over like a lead zepplin...................

I think you will give that turbo Scion thing a good run for its money. ;)

The Realist.



I assure you it will be faster than my Elky!

The Diplomat.



I agree Mark but only for a little while.

The Gladiator.

...maybe mid to high 10's on the bottle with some more converter and a bigger carb.

The Motivator.


... Just be sure to wake BrYan up at the tree:D:D

The Heckler.


I am gona say 11.80-12.10 on motor. :yes:

Plenty to do some damage to most of the young wipper snappers in the group:D

The Optimist.

Thanks for your predictions. I've got something to shoot for now. :thumbsup:

Mid to low 12's on motor, 11:00's on a 175 shot of squeeze. Then throw in a 250 shot for fun.

Nice work on the scoop :thumbsup: A buddy in High school had it on his ride back then (83) Still has it on there. Cut it out for a T-ram but was smart enough to keep the piece in case he went a different route. Couldn't believe he still had the cut out piece when I ran into him a while back. At one point the car was even sporting a straight axle front end.

Is it done?

Not just yet, Brett. :(

Got a little sidetracked with the rear project. Am hoping to have my axle tubes welded up this weekend, get it in the car and get back on the bodywork. :thumbsup:

I'm resigning myself to the fact that time is ticking fast, and maybe I should quit trying to make this car street legal-ish at first, and just get it banged together and ready for the track for this year, and work on the street legal stuff later in the fall.

Just get a few fun laps in it for now...before I run out of time for this season...:D

maybe I should quit trying to make this car street legal-ish at first, and just get it banged together and ready for the track

I understand, sounds like you have your priorities straight! :hurray: See ya in the summer.

Just a few more photos. This is with a light skim of bondo, sanded, and another skim of bondo. It's really taking shape. Also giving me a little refresher on bodywork. I prefer working on drivetrains. This sanding stuff is getting old really fast...:sad:

However, it will all work out. Kind of pleased with the scoop. Some more woven glass to lay underneath to make everything really strong, then I can concentrate on the rest of the body. :thumbsup:

Kitty hair bondo

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/scoopprogress001.jpg

First skim of straight bondo

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/scoopprogress003.jpg

Tonight's second skim of bondo

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/scoopprogress004.jpg

I was skeptical at first but now am a firm believer that thats is 1 cool hood! :thumbsup:

Thanks. :thumbsup:

Looking great John!:thumbsup:

I'm glad you went with the L88.:yes:

Fiberglass L-88 hood. Hmmmm, wonder where the inspiration came from?
Looks great! Keep at it!

That thing is looking so cool.

I saw some talk of a Baldwin Motion Chevelle, followed some links...ended up some Crazy site. Seems Roberto Schneider of Mexico ordered 2 Phase III Yenkos, a Camaro and Chevelle ....RS=owner's initials... Wealthy family with political ties, wedding presents. How 'bout this scheme on your beast?

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/Amelia%2008/AmeliaIsland2008011.jpg


here is a low quality vid..
YouTube - Baldwin Motion 427 Chevelle

I'm not a big fan of the roof stripe.:noway:
To each his own.:thumbsup:

I'm not a big fan of the roof stripe.:noway:


X2, first thing I thought of.

Roberto.... Schneider? Of Mexico? Bread magnates? ;)

In the other site, said grandson of wealthy industrialist. He was gonna marry the Gov of some province in Mexico's daughter.... these BM cars were a wedding present! Imagine TOWING the Camaro behind the Chevelle 3000 miles

I think the Camaro looks awesome where the white stripe widens and wraps over the fender...and the back wing.....
I too could live without the strip on the roof on the Chevelle.

Looks like I'm alone on the roof stripe since I have two of 'em:yes:. Then again, I've never been one to follow the crowd:cool:

Hey Mike it's all about what makes you happy. :thumbsup:
If we all had the same taste a car show would/could be just one car.:D
Heck, I don't even have paint on mine.

I don't even have paint on mine.

That's good for half a tenth right there:thumbsup::D

Spent some time tonight sanding...and sanding...:sad:

Just wanted to see where we're at, it's only down with 60 grit and a quick shot of primer. A little more time and a little more sanding:clonk: and it should be there.

Then... :sad:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/cuttingandglassingscoop003.jpg

In between times... :)

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/scoopprogress002.jpg

Tonight... :hurray:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/scoop005.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/scoop003.jpg

I guess my pics inspired you

A couple purge lines coming out next to some 427 emblems would look sic.

I guess my pics inspired you

Roger that ! :thumbsup:

A couple purge lines coming out next to some 427 emblems would look sic.

Yeah, Baby ! Definitely need the purge lines if for no other reason than the cool factor. :cool:

427 badge would look real fine. I've got the 396 hardware already. I think it's from a Camaro ?

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/396.jpg

I bought a set of the vette 427 hood numbers once,,,,they're pretty cool. Still haven't used them because I need another set for the other side. :(

I don't know what it is about a 427, but that sequence of #'s has always sounded Bada$$.

That s what I said SEP 92 when I bought RatVette

I don't know what it is about a 427, but that sequence of #'s has always sounded Bada$$.

I agree

I gotta keep posting or that postwhoreBerg will catch me