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: 69 quarter panel widening.


1bad69+70camaro
Mar 2nd, 08, 8:22 PM
Hey guys i am thinking of overlapping my 69 chevelle quarter skins to gain a little for bigger tires and wheels. I mean it will be done correctly and not like my 69 camaro nightmare. Has anyone done this? Instead of flanging and welding flush just overlapping and welding. I figure this will gain me around an 1/8 of an inch if done right. Remember this is skins only not full quarters. And on a side note my quarters are in really good shape. One is perfect with no replacement needed and one can use a skin or really patching. Should i widen or do factory? If i widen it will look factory and not rednecked. I have done this on second gen camaros actually putting a half inch strip in the outer wheel house and then welding the skin overlapped. It turns out killer.

1bad69+70camaro
Mar 3rd, 08, 8:51 AM
Did I make any sense in the above post?

SS_Dave
Mar 3rd, 08, 9:02 AM
I couldn't follow and gave up.

Even so, what does it matter?

Its your car. Do what you want.

It seems like a lot of work for 1/8 inch.
An 1/8 in no way would be noticeable.
If you looking for tire clearance, you can get a 10" tire under there
with a 5.25 backspaced wheel.

Dean
Mar 3rd, 08, 9:06 AM
Did I make any sense in the above post?

http://baldwinbrothers.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bush-thinking-hard.jpg

DFER
Mar 3rd, 08, 9:08 AM
Mike:

If numbers matching is not important (I think not by the post) why not try and find a 64-67 12 bolt. I think someone here has a 65 12 bolt in the members section and is looking to swap for a 68-72 with 3:55 gears. Just a thought.

Durand

1bad69+70camaro
Mar 3rd, 08, 9:11 AM
I couldn't follow and gave up.

Even so, what does it matter?

Its your car. Do what you want.
I know its a little cluttered. Let em try this. Instead of flanging or butt welding just lay the quarter on top of the old one after it has been cut out allowing 1/8 of an inch overlap. Weld the new "skin" on top of that and proceed with the bodywork You can gain around 1/8 to 1/4 extra tire clearance and the mods are hidden. Weld flush where the quarter meets the door but overlap down the side near the body line for hiding. this should push the quarter out creating more clearance. sometime you can push more and add a half inch strip to the outer wheel house.

1bad69+70camaro
Mar 3rd, 08, 9:12 AM
http://baldwinbrothers.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bush-thinking-hard.jpg
Very funny :mad:! LOL :D.

1bad69+70camaro
Mar 3rd, 08, 9:13 AM
Mike:

If numbers matching is not important (I think not by the post) why not try and find a 64-67 12 bolt. I think someone here has a 65 12 bolt in the members section and is looking to swap for a 68-72 with 3:55 gears. Just a thought.

DurandHow would this help? is it shorter? My gears are the factory 3.31 posi.

david_396
Mar 3rd, 08, 9:25 AM
Got this from another site. knew they early rears were narrower, didn't think they where this much narrower.
1964-67, Chevelle rearends housing dimensions measure 56.5 inches, from flange to flange. Total measurements with the drums in place is 60.5 inches. 1968-72 rearend housings measure 58.5 inches from flange to flange.

DFER
Mar 3rd, 08, 9:26 AM
Mike:

Yes! If memory serves me, you will gain somewhere in the neighborhood of 3/4 inch or more on each side with an earlier model rear. If you do a search in the trans/driveline forum (I think this is where you will find it) there are some specific topics on this. I have a 67 rear under my 69 but have have stock 74 Z-28 15x7 rims on it currently. Hope this helps!

Durand

Dean
Mar 3rd, 08, 11:08 AM
Someone said the difference is 1 3/4" total. :confused:

DG
Mar 3rd, 08, 11:42 AM
Here's what a club member did to his quarters to widen them.

http://www.bright.net/~recham/chevy1.JPG
http://www.bright.net/~recham/chevy8.JPG
http://www.bright.net/~recham/chevy9.JPG
http://www.bright.net/~recham/chevy11.JPG

Alwhite00
Mar 3rd, 08, 12:12 PM
& the tires still stick out...:)

LK

Clean Cut Creations
Mar 4th, 08, 1:01 PM
Here's what a club member did to his quarters to widen them.

http://www.bright.net/~recham/chevy1.JPG
http://www.bright.net/~recham/chevy8.JPG
http://www.bright.net/~recham/chevy9.JPG
http://www.bright.net/~recham/chevy11.JPG

That looks hillbilly........
Too 70s jack-em -up, airshocky, with glasspacks for me!

MakMetalFab
Mar 4th, 08, 4:57 PM
Dont be gay, IF you need tire clearence of about 1/2 in per side or 3/4 notch the frame, and widen the inner wheel wells.

furball8994
Mar 4th, 08, 5:08 PM
Dont be gay, IF you need tire clearence of about 1/2 in per side or 3/4 notch the frame, and widen the inner wheel wells.

My thinking exactly!!! You can get nearly an inch of clearance by notching the frame and adding a strip to the inner wheel house. Then use a 10" rim with 5 3/4" or 6" BS.

Mike, What size tires are you wanting to run on your 69.

1bad69+70camaro
Mar 5th, 08, 1:23 AM
My thinking exactly!!! You can get nearly an inch of clearance by notching the frame and adding a strip to the inner wheel house. Then use a 10" rim with 5 3/4" or 6" BS.

Mike, What size tires are you wanting to run on your 69.
I was thinking of some billet ralleyes probably 18x10 out back. Actually the red chevelle doesnt look bad to me except for the whels. If tires were tucked then the rear quarters look good to me. I am going for a real subtle effect not as dramatic as the red car. As far as the notching i know that route as well, i also am a metal worker. That way seems too pro street to me.

MakMetalFab
Mar 5th, 08, 8:21 AM
your car, do what you want ... but you wanted opinions and theres no point in lying to you and telling you it will look good.

1bad69+70camaro
Mar 5th, 08, 10:03 PM
your car, do what you want ... but you wanted opinions and theres no point in lying to you and telling you it will look good.I never wanted any lies. I dont want to get a flaired look actually want the mods to be very hidden but "apparent". As far as the gay remark i dont see how flairs have anything to do with my sexuality. I am very not gay, ***, bisexual, or like the men on men deal in any way, very much against it as you can tell in my reply. Kind of rude dude. Like i said only wanted opinions not rudeness. Also not everyone would think it looks bad, especially if done in a subtle manner. It is not for everyone but some would most not.

Dean
Mar 5th, 08, 10:44 PM
Dont be gay,......
.............

Now lets not start the name calling please Mike. :(

sevt_chevelle
Mar 5th, 08, 11:03 PM
To me it sounds like an awful amount of work for 1/8" Personally 1/8 aint jack so why mess with it?

Have you thought about removing lip on the outer wheel well just to expose the lip on the 1/4 panel and then shrink the entire lip of the quarter? This would in turn bulge the wheel well opening outward. To me thats a better approach then overlapping panels...Eric

shep_77
Mar 6th, 08, 1:05 AM
With proper back spacing a 10 inch wheel will fit the stock rear and quarters. If you don't need to replace the quarter then don't, just patch it. I mocked up 18x9.5 with the wheel centered in the wheel well there was at least an inch on both sides of the wheel.

1bad69+70camaro
Mar 6th, 08, 1:24 AM
To me it sounds like an awful amount of work for 1/8" Personally 1/8 aint jack so why mess with it?

Have you thought about removing lip on the outer wheel well just to expose the lip on the 1/4 panel and then shrink the entire lip of the quarter? This would in turn bulge the wheel well opening outward. To me thats a better approach then overlapping panels...Eric
It does, i will probably leave it. I would like to switch from pro touring to 15x10 welds out back for a prostreet look, and vice versa. After all its a non matching car.