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m71
Mar 1st, 04, 4:56 PM
i spoke with Jeff at PT today and my heads are going to be shipped out tomorrow, supposedly. i asked him about the going out of business rumor. he said they were not going out of business per say, but that they were being purchased by another company. which one, he wouldn't say. just thought i'd pass on the info.

pdq67
Mar 1st, 04, 6:25 PM
Let's see??

E-brock, Holley or Mr. Gasket??

HAVE NO IDEA.. Just thinking out loud, that's all...

Let's see how far off I am when the news flash comes out???

Heck, might even be W/P's???

pdq67

copo69
Mar 1st, 04, 7:56 PM
Originally posted by m71:
i spoke with Jeff at PT today and my heads are going to be shipped out tomorrow, supposedly. i asked him about the going out of business rumor. he said they were not going out of business per say, but that they were being purchased by another company. which one, he wouldn't say. just thought i'd pass on the info. :eek: the same company that is buying the vienolia engine block program holley is what i have heard

Twilightoptics
Mar 1st, 04, 8:22 PM
Dah too much money in the world and not enough for us car guys!

I got my cast pro heads, but so far they do seem to mate with a Holley manifold like butter.

hmmmmmm graemlins/clonk.gif

Doug F.
Mar 1st, 04, 8:55 PM
That would be news to me and I work there along with being in charge of part of the cylinder head program! :confused:

mikehartwell
Mar 1st, 04, 10:36 PM
Gettin bought out isn't exactly a good thing. The performance parts industry is flat lined these days - except for the high end guys - which neither edelbrock nor holley are. PT sounds like another example of a fire sale if it is indeed getting bought. The interest in offshore mfg isn't going away; cheap labor and gov't subsidized plants (e.g. China, Taiwan, Malaysia, etc) means better margins.

I collect knives/swords. One of my main sources just got back from Thailand where he visited a brand new forging facility that will be able to crank out 500-1000 blades a day - all funded by the Thai gov't.

May be that PT has some connections in place that one of the bigger guys are interested in - but the value associated with that ain't a lot. The more obvious reason would be a market share buy - which still doesn't have that much value.

pdq67
Mar 2nd, 04, 7:17 AM
Ditto Mike!

The refractory industry has been gobbling up each other for years trying to get rid of excess capacity and now that theres only one or two big players left, the stuff is just imported from low cost export producers by smaller/lower margin players so the big boy's still didn't gain market share!!

pdq67

PS., that and the fact that a heck of a bunch of our primary industry has now been outsourced, it's basically in the toilet!!!

Doug F.
Mar 2nd, 04, 7:42 AM
The reality is that most people will buy the cheapest product when it comes to aftermarket parts. I and some learned long ago that this is typically not the wise thing to do, but nobody can argue to me that many people are buying import performance parts. I know about what some of the offshore companies sell and in a matter of years they have surpassed the "big" US name comapanies in several types of products.

This topic has been discussed before, but I can tell you for a fact that most US companies will be forced to do the same or they will not exist.

This happened to electonics and other products decades ago, and it has finally happened to good ol American hot rod parts and it is not turning back I assure you.

It sure stinks, but it is the way things are and will be.

I've seen the quality of many of these parts and some of it I consider garbage, but the sales are growing significantly.

As mentioned above, this is only one of many industries going this way. The foreign governments subsidize a lot of these companies.

It sure is a shame as far as I'm concerned.

This wasn't meant against PT, there are plenty of other companies that fit this bill. PT has come out with some of their own products rather than flat out copying successful American made product.

Schurkey
Mar 2nd, 04, 8:30 AM
Replace the income tax with an import tax. Problem solved. I should be Emperor.

427L88
Mar 2nd, 04, 9:34 AM
I second that nomination! Only import parts I have on the Velle are CANADIAN! ( exclusive of the beer in the cooler in the trunk! )

Cable
Mar 2nd, 04, 7:58 PM
Originally posted by Schurkey:
Replace the income tax with an import tax. Problem solved. I should be Emperor. Ditto!!

Rumblin70SS
Mar 2nd, 04, 8:20 PM
I'd rather spend a few more bucks for something to get good quality AND service.............my time is to valuable to deal with sloppy service too..........

pdq67
Mar 2nd, 04, 10:57 PM
NO, tax everything on the difference between what the wages cost to build it, AND the wages to make it here with full bennies!

In other words if they pay somebody in China $4.00 for a 12 hr day to make something and sell it here using US manufacturing estimated rates at say $35.00/hr, that means the diff. is $35/hr x 12hrs = $420/day -$4.00/day = $416 in taxes!!

AND I'm not even factoring in 8 hrs straight time and 4hrs/day OT at time and a half or whatever!!

AND let the selling price be what it may!!

pdq67

ovelle
Mar 3rd, 04, 3:21 AM
PEP (precision engine parts).put a bid on the factory and will probably get it.picked up my
64/200's today from there warehouse and spoke to
them a little on the subject.as far as being a
"junk" cylinder head,i myself dont think so for what i paid and what i got and what they will be used for i think i got a great deal.
800.00 everything including hardened push rods and new bolts,
i just have to assemble them myself.
shane

wes migletz
Mar 3rd, 04, 1:54 PM
Taxing the imported products will lead to US products and services being taxed abroad. I don't think this is the best appraoch. BTW, the intake I put on my '59 last weekend has a large, bold made in the USA tag on it.