anyone running a Jeep powersteering pump with their box?

im thinking about this pump, but not too sure if it will work or not.
they are nice and small, compared to the old stock one i have.
if so, would it be possible to run v-belt with it? or would it have to stay serp?

i have the ZJ box installed in my chevelle,and im looking at running AN fittings with it, and a differnt pump.

or what is your power steering pump and line set up?


thanks

aaron

It is pretty hard to beat the functionality of the stock Saginaw P-series pump. True with the tank they are larger. But minimum hoses and everything fits.

Now if you are going racing... then fluid temperatures with the P pump can become an issue. Of course coolers are an option to address this problem. Another alternative to reduce fluid temperatures is the remote reservoir. Lots of race stuff available in this realm and most of it uses some derivative of the GM Type-II TC pump. Lots of setups made for SBC using V belts. Lots of AN fitting pumps and tanks too. Installation will be not quite as clean as you have to mount the reservoir somewhere/somehow and run more hoses around.

I just finished putting a very different setup in my '68 El Camino with a '92 Camaro steering box. I picked up a Saginaw N-series pump from an 83-85 Cadillac Deville along with it's remote reservoir. This is really a remote reservoir variant of the Saginaw P-series pump so the mounting is close to the same, the hoses and pressure/flow parts are identical, and all the standard press fit pulleys fit. The only difference is the mounting is about 1/4-1/2" deeper because of the different pump face machining.

This is very similiar to what Tom Lee created for Carl Casanova's '68 Camaro.

I went this direction because of converting to a short water pump and space limitations. And because I thought it would be a kinda cool setup.

sounds neat. do you have any pictures?

i was just trying to throw things around. i was planning on origionally using my stock sag pump, but since i have to get metric to std line fittings, i was thinking of using a diff pump and line config.

this is going to be a daily driver car once again.

thanks.


aaron

I have a bunch of pictures... I just have not uploaded them out of the camera yet B)

The steering pressure hose is one area that I don't consider finished. Everything is metric O-ring fittings so I cannot just buy a Chevelle hose. And none of the best looking matchups in the book were in stock. So I bent a hose from the '92 Camaro to get it on the road. I need to go check on what a basic custom hose would cost. The end needed on the steering box is fairly common, it just needs to come out into a 90* and run down the top of the box and around the pittman shaft area. Then on the pump end a simple 90* would also work well. I just have not found any OEM applications that used both and most of the OEM hoses have lots of bends on the pump end.

I used the hose & the fitting on the pump from a late 80s Caprice. Only drawback is the temp sensor in the line, which has no function in my 66.

That is not a temp sensor, it is a pressure sensor. It tells the computer when to bump the idle up for the load from the PS pump.

It is tough to ID a steering line from just the pictures and whenever we find a decent candidate it is not in stock :(

I think I am going to just bag the OEM approach and get the metric O-ring to AN-6 adapters, two 90* hose ends, and PS pressure hose from Speedway for about $50-60.

Steve - how did you mount your N-pump? When I look at the mounting holes on the NAPA site, they look like they are in much different positions compared to the P-pump. Are you using the Cady brackets?

-Eric

The N-pump does not have as many mounting positions as the P-pump. The P-pump has something like 4 bolt holes on the front face and 2 on the rear whereas the N-pump has the same 2 on the rear and only 2 or 3 on the front. The pump I used looked something like this:
http://www.cardone.com/Imagesftp/20/20871-01.jpg

Note that you can run the N-pump in any orientation, there really is not a top/bottom for this application. Just make sure the reservoir is above the pump and it should all work. I think the worst that could happen is it takes a little longer to get all the air bled out.

I had been running a normal P-pump with a LWP using the Alan Grove 407L PS brackets:
http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/images/407LN.jpg

For the main PS pump mount I used the triangular plate and spacer pieces from the Alan Grove mount with one of the mounting holes in the PS pump. On this version of the pump they just go all the way through, on some they are threaded (there are about 6-8 different versions). Because the pump face is not machined down exactly the same as a P-pump, the mounting width is about 1/2" wider. To account for this I made up 2 spacer plates using 1/4" aluminum to move the front of the mount out. One of these plates extends up to mount my idler pulley. I removed the spacers behind the back Alan Grove mounting plate as part of converting from LWP to SWP, so the rear 1/4" mounting plate sits directly on the block mounting bosses.

For a belt tensioner I made up a plate from fairly thin aluminum (had it laying around) similiar to what Alan Grove does for their wide alternator mount. You can get a pretty good idea of the concept from this picture:
http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/images/Dimensions/118R,218L.GIF

I threaded the upper PS pump mount hole and bolted this plate there. The slot aligns with a new bolt that clamps it to the front mounting plate of the Alan Grove PS pump mount.

The Alan Grove brackets are all simple arrangements of flat plate steel and spacers. Not very fancy or showy. But it sure makes them really easy to customize to whatever arrangement you want. Just by trimming some spacers and getting shorter bolts I was able to convert my LWP alternator mount to a SWP alternator mount.

I'm running a 89 Chevy PS pump on my 70 with a Jeep GC box, Works great. I am using the 89 PS hose from the truck & it fits right in place. (I added 1 little bend) I am running the complete serp belt system from the 89.

LK

I use a Jones Racing pump (and front drive setup).

I am VERY satsified with it.

Pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11929667@N00/525251124/in/set-72057594110671642/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11929667@N00/525219964/in/set-72057594110671642/

~Scotch~