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: Combustion Chamber Shape


soccerguy045
May 8th, 04, 1:52 PM
Are the heart-shaped chambers the 'best', or does it depend on application and piston types? I'm planning to have small chambers (with aluminum heads) and a small-domed piston for detonation reasons (at least, speculating for a possible future project). Just curious on possibilities, thanks.

soccerguy045
May 11th, 04, 12:57 AM
Just wondering if anyone had any input on this. Thanks, sorry for the bump.

Pat Kelley
May 11th, 04, 1:16 AM
They are probably the best going right now. IMO, the best setup is flat top pistons with chambers sized to give you the CR you want. A quench distance of .035-.045 will increase detonation resistance substantially. Domes are a last resort.

Slowpoke70
May 11th, 04, 2:54 AM
Pat, what do you think about using a dished piston, decked block and heart shaped chamber? I don't know what it would to HP wise, but it seems like it would make a nice burning chamber?

Pat Kelley
May 11th, 04, 11:17 AM
That should work pretty well. I'm not up on dish vs flat but domes are the worst.

Busted Knuckles
May 11th, 04, 11:39 AM
Small chamber with a dish is more efficient and produces more power than a bigger chamber with a flat top. This is from an article in Hot Rod or Car Craft sometime in the last year. I'd been curious about the same thing for a while, so I was very interested in that article. HTH

Wolfplace
May 11th, 04, 11:42 AM
The dish works extremely well if it is a "D" shape or better a mirror of the combustion chamber so you still have proper quench. Otherwise the most effecient chamber is the so called "heart" or "kidney" shape with a flattop.

Busted Knuckles
May 11th, 04, 3:29 PM
Wolfplace, that's exactly correct, according to the article. I should have used "reverse dome" instead of dish, which is the way I try to always refer to them. I've seen a couple that used the valve reliefs to actually create much of a heart shaped reverse dome and the quench area of the piston is almost a mirror image of the quench area on the head. That looks to me like it should work well, but I've never seen a test comparing this to a common reverse dome. GM used dish tops on a lot of their 400's that killed the quench area altogether.

soccerguy045
May 11th, 04, 5:19 PM
Thanks for your tips and advice. Some of you may have seen me talk of my plans to make a really nice 496 that can run on 87, so I'm just trying to gather as much info as I can. Thanks again.

Pat Kelley
May 11th, 04, 6:04 PM
With a BB you may need domes. However, with the cubes you have they wouldn't need to be big, if they are even needed. I don't know how much choice you have in chamber shape with a BB.

thrasher
May 12th, 04, 2:34 AM
I don't normally jump on the magazine quoting thing but I saw a test on a 383 quite a few years back.They tried to keep everything as equal as they could,they changed the pistons for eack combo to keep the compression equal.
I believe they were rewarded with 20 across the board.TQ and HP.

I think I still have the mag and I will try to find it.