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67TurboChevelle
Dec 30th, 07, 1:31 AM
This is pretty much an overhaul since I raced the car up until June when I lost two pistons. I had twin MP70's on the car with some horible log style headers. It was also non-intercooled. I had a very sloppy B&M 8" converter that was showing 23% slippage and a TH350 that had been in the car since 1999. It still put down 740rwhp.

This is an all steel car with full interior and by full, I even run the stock bench seat so this pig is a little heavy.

So for my revised build, I had my buddy Eric at KKP build the headers for me and I'm doing the rest in my 1 car garage. I went with the S480 for some motivation, I hope this is enough. I was able to squeeze in a 4" core intercool in the core support with very minor mods. I also ditched the stock tank with a sump and put a 15 gallon cell in the trunk. I also stepped up from my Aeromotive A1000 setup to a Weldon 2025 and 13202 reg. I was also running full dual 3" exhaust, I ditched that and will be going with a single 4" now to complement the S480.

For the big upgrade, I have a 9.5" PTC on the way and a really nice glide from Alan Pope setup in an ATI Super case, 1.80 straight cut gear set, 8 clutch hub and all the other goodies. This will be my first experience with a trans brake. It's always been a foot brake car and I always left with 0lbs of boost before.

Corey


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67TurboChevelle
Dec 30th, 07, 1:33 AM
More photos.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/1merge.jpg

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moonbeam1999
Dec 30th, 07, 2:28 AM
Thats cool man. No denying turbos are amazing, and keeping it all tucked under the factory hood gets mucho cool points in my book.

My buddies at the shop that built my engine threw together a TT, SBC mustang that they ran in drag week this year and placed second overall with 8.30s @ 170s on pump gas. I rode in it and its amazing how docile you can tune turbo cars. They've since taken it down to Orlando and knocked off a 7.90@186....and drive it around town!

Anyway, Can't wait to hear how your project turrns out!

jester1
Dec 30th, 07, 2:28 AM
very nice! that S480 is a excellent turbo for the money!

Dave Kaveshan
Dec 30th, 07, 9:32 AM
Nice work and an awesome looking car. That thing ought to haul some serious...groceries. Keep us posted when you get it to the track.

R/ Dave

fabio
Dec 30th, 07, 12:29 PM
freaken awesome, it's amazing what these turbo cars are capable of and remain docile enough to cruize. What's your rearend ratio?

67TurboChevelle
Dec 30th, 07, 1:38 PM
Thanks guys.

Cruising the car around is a piece of cake, it doesn't know it can make crazy power until you roll into it, then all hell breaks loose. That in itself is the biggest advantage over running different power adders, and I have used them all on this car.

freaken awesome, it's amazing what these turbo cars are capable of and remain docile enough to cruize. What's your rearend ratio?
I'm running 3.50's out back. It was a good setup this year but I'm thinking about taking more out depending where the car ends up.

Here are some vids from my last June race. Most of the 60's were in the 1.7 range; it leaves pretty soft leaving with 0lbs. That should change with the new trans for 08 :hurray:

Corey

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=20021286

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=20021022

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=20021092

67Mike
Dec 31st, 07, 4:49 PM
Very nice set-up.
Did you build the headers or buy them?

Im looking for a set of turbo headers like that.

67TurboChevelle
Dec 31st, 07, 4:57 PM
Very nice set-up.
Did you build the headers or buy them?

Im looking for a set of turbo headers like that.

Mike,

I had a friend build this set for me based on a similar set I had built before. There are several places just buy them, but they start around $1450 for 304SS. This system is built from mild steel. It's not worth doing a set of stainless headers unless you buck up for the 321 series, at least for a street car. The mild steel will handle the heat cycles better. In addition, when doing mild steel, your under hood temps will be much lower with a good coating. I'm opting for the new sterling coating on this setup from Jet-Hot.

Corey

mr 4 speed
Dec 31st, 07, 4:59 PM
wow...very cool!! :thumbsup:

nice job on everything!!

dirtlips408
Dec 31st, 07, 5:30 PM
Bad ass man...I love it. I would love to run a set up like this on my Camaro. But I dont think my shortblock would like it much!

Camaro_fever68
Dec 31st, 07, 6:17 PM
Looking good!!! Can't wait until I'm to that stage with my build.

67TurboChevelle
Jan 1st, 08, 12:13 PM
Thanks guys

Bad ass man...I love it. I would love to run a set up like this on my Camaro. But I dont think my shortblock would like it much!
If your running stock stuff, probably not very much if you lean on it much. In 07 there was a guy running a smaller version of this turbo on a stock block and ran 5.90's @ 118 in a 79 Cutlass. It wasn't until he stepped up to this exact turbo to push it 5.65 @ 127 that he started to hurt it.

Looking good!!! Can't wait until I'm to that stage with my build.What are you putting together, do share:yes:

Camaro_fever68
Jan 1st, 08, 1:24 PM
What are you putting together, do share:yes:


I'm doing a ground up restoration of a '68 Camaro SS. I'm about done with the sheetmetal work. I've already completed the quarters, tail pan, and trunk. I'm now doing a 1pc floor pan and toe boards.


The drive train!

Dart Lil M 400
Scat 3.875 crank 6.0 Rods
Ross -34cc 9:1 pistons
Dart Pro 1 Platinum 230cc/64cc
Cam Motion Solid Roller

Twin Garrett T4 TO4S 60-1 turbos
1200hp Intercooler

TH 400
F*#d 9" 3:50


Shooting for 800hp on tap with good drivability manners.

Chief fat nutz
Jan 1st, 08, 5:18 PM
Corey,great to see your doing a single turbo. I remember you told me you were doing one before the twins but it was to complex with room and everything at the time. Glad to see your back in the fabrication department!

Chief fat nutz
Jan 1st, 08, 5:19 PM
I'm doing a ground up restoration of a '68 Camaro SS. I'm about done with the sheetmetal work. I've already completed the quarters, tail pan, and trunk. I'm now doing a 1pc floor pan and toe boards.


The drive train!

Dart Lil M 400
Scat 3.875 crank 6.0 Rods
Ross -34cc 9:1 pistons
Dart Pro 1 Platinum 230cc/64cc
Cam Motion Solid Roller

Twin Garrett T4 TO4S 60-1 turbos
1200hp Intercooler

TH 400
F*#d 9" 3:50


Shooting for 800hp on tap with good drivability manners.

Ray,looks similart to Coreys except you are stroking the motor and what type of induction are you gonna use? EFI or blow-through carb?

Camaro_fever68
Jan 1st, 08, 6:13 PM
Ray,looks similart to Coreys except you are stroking the motor and what type of induction are you gonna use? EFI or blow-through carb?

I'm going blow through carb.

eric13617
Jan 1st, 08, 7:08 PM
Corey,never run with a transbreak,huh.Fixin to get real interesting.Alot of guys round here leave the line at around 6lbs.so as not to overpower the track. I noticed you don't have alot of tire back there,but that is o.k. too.At the local track here,they had a guy from the NMRA run in the mid 5's on a 275/60 this past fall.1/8 th mile.

And just wondering why you want to run a single 4" exhaust when the turbo itself is an exhaust.I'd just run the down pipe under the car and forget it.

BTW,Your car lookes real nice in the videos.I'm kinda biased to it since I have a 67 also.

67TurboChevelle
Jan 1st, 08, 11:23 PM
Corey,great to see your doing a single turbo. I remember you told me you were doing one before the twins but it was to complex with room and everything at the time. Glad to see your back in the fabrication department!

Wow, that was several years ago I had started on that; a good memory you have there :) Since then I have seen a lot more projects that helped push me over the edge. I super excited to get this finshed up.

Corey,never run with a transbreak,huh.Fixin to get real interesting.Alot of guys round here leave the line at around 6lbs.so as not to overpower the track. I noticed you don't have alot of tire back there,but that is o.k. too.At the local track here,they had a guy from the NMRA run in the mid 5's on a 275/60 this past fall.1/8 th mile.

And just wondering why you want to run a single 4" exhaust when the turbo itself is an exhaust.I'd just run the down pipe under the car and forget it.

BTW,Your car lookes real nice in the videos.I'm kinda biased to it since I have a 67 also.
I was thinking around 6-7 range myself. I don't have any confidence that the current tire will hook leaving that hard, unless shocking them will help them plant, because even when it left lazy it was tricky. I will also be putting some 28 10.5's on it that should handle leaving at 6+ no problem and that's when I expect the real fun to begin. There is a guy running the same setup leaving around 6lbs and his 60s are in the mid 1.3 range.

We do have a couple cars here on 275 that are running in the 5.60 range, so they are starting to come around. In our drag radial class here, we are limited to two choices, the 236/60 MT or the 275/50 BFG. The idea is to keep it entry level and to a 26" tall tire. I ended up doing the BFG's because the 235's just wouldn't look good. At that June race I did have the record with that 10.30 pass, then that black Nova took it away in September to set it at a 10.20 and he was on the 235's. The 10.5 slicks will be run in our True Street class where I hope to put down some pretty good times.

As for the exhaust. I would have loved to just dump the 5" portion of the down pipe under the car, but I'm not sure it would stay under 104db making a full pass, that's what we are limited to. So I stepped it down to 4" just to fit it under the car.

I did finish the setup today, I only had the waste gate tubing left. Yesterday I got the 2" flex so I could finish this up. Then I took everything apart and boxed it up so I can ship down to Jet-Hot tomorrow. I also started on my parachute mount as well. So far everything is going great on that and I will have no problem hiding it behind the license plate :thumbsup: I'll get some photos of that this weekend. I'm also going to build a nice billet aluminum mount that will fit around my steering column for two gauge cups that will house my fuel pressure and boost gauge. I want to put both of those right in front of my eyes with this new setup.

Corey


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/1finished.jpg


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eric13617
Jan 2nd, 08, 10:13 PM
Corey nice to hear all you mentioned.Didn't realize you all had a DB. limit.

I think those classes are very nice for us,since we can hardly afford to build a 60,000 dollar,cert.chasis,per say, "Street Car".There are a few awfully fast cars here too and they hit the tires pretty hard,as well.

What's really wild is when the turbo guys try to put too much boost in too fast and end up in the other guys lane.It gits real exciting.:thumbsup:

67TurboChevelle
Feb 17th, 08, 1:46 PM
A couple of shots of the almost finished product. Car is in the chasis shop getting the cage conversion done. All I will have left is to wire up all the electrical goodies to the new ARC control panel then it's off to the dyno to tuning.
I drove the car a couple weekends ago in the falling snow to a buddies shop to finally put the headliner in it. It's so nice to have a turbo setup that allows you to cruise down the street just like it was a stock motor.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/ALMOSTFINISHED.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/ALMOSTFINISHED2.jpg

eric13617
Feb 17th, 08, 2:10 PM
Looks awsome.Let us know how she runs when you get to the track.

godsend
Feb 17th, 08, 3:41 PM
The heater hos seems near your hot side?

67TurboChevelle
Feb 17th, 08, 4:19 PM
The heater hos seems near your hot side?

Yeah,
At first I thought the wrap was going to be enough, but it still gets pretty hot so I'm going to need a different hose or do a hose/metal tube combo :thumbsup:

BLOWNBBC
Feb 17th, 08, 6:46 PM
This is giving me some naughty ideas.:yes:

67TurboChevelle
Feb 17th, 08, 8:02 PM
This is giving me some naughty ideas.:yes:
I''ve had every setup in this car, N/A, nitrous from a power shot to a big shot in a high compression setup, to a roots blower to a D1SC Procharger and now turbos.
Once you go turbo you will never go back to any of ther others. The driveability is amazing, it's quiet and will rip your head off if you so desire. About the only down side is working around all the extra crap, but it's still worth it :D

OregonMalibu
Feb 17th, 08, 8:40 PM
Corey , I was admiring the pics of your project and saw that you had some videos, I click on them and realize that is Woodburn. We'll have to look for each other since that is my home track. I'm shooting to be there the 8th, weather permitting. I'll look forward to meeting you.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg6/OregonMalibu/ChevyIIFeb07-Dec07212.jpg
Keep an eye out for me.
How are you mounting your window net on the bottom, to the cage?

540 Olds
Feb 17th, 08, 10:48 PM
67TURBO CHEVELLE Corey wrote:"I''ve had every setup in this car, N/A, nitrous from a power shot to a big shot in a high compression setup, to a roots blower to a D1SC Procharger and now turbos.
Once you go turbo you will never go back to any of ther others. The driveability is amazing, it's quiet and will rip your head off if you so desire. About the only down side is working around all the extra crap, but it's still worth it.........

Hello,
I got married in 1983 and was in the military in Europe. Ha to get a "family" car and I could not stand the thought of a mini-van. A buddy advised me to test drive a Volvo Turbo wagon. I'll never forget the first time I felt the boost in a puny little 4 cylinder; first thought was "I'd love to have one of these on a big block." That was 25 years go and very few people were t'charging cars.

After building this 540, I have been wanting to do a turbo and EFI for the last 10 years, but money has been needed for other things. After reading this thread and seeing Corey's car.....I just have to do this sooner or later.

The driveablitiy issue and the huge power output are the best of both worlds. Your car looks like it has a hard charge on the top end. Does it feel like it ever wants to give up pulling?/ Also , what rpm do you shift and go through traps.

Great car and a neat project,

Bob

67TurboChevelle
Feb 18th, 08, 12:20 AM
Barry,

I was admiring photos of your car in a post you had. It's going to be a very cool ride. You should check out our headsup site for some serious fun http://www.headsupnw.com/
Most of the time I'm at PIR, but I might make it down on some Friday evening tuning sessions at Woodburn this year. Either way, I will be at our Woodburn races and hopefully Pinks All Out.
I look forward to seeing your ride, I also have a soft spot for 66/7 Novas.


Bob,
Most of last year I shifted anywhere from 6000-6500, I played around with it a little bit. I had a very bad tranny and converter setup last year, so I blew through the converter (20%+ slippage), I was going through the big end at 6500 with a 3.50 gear. I should be around 7% this year with the new 9.5" PTC that I put in.
As for the video, the car actually kept falling off on the top end. For example, on my last pass I was 109.6 at the 1/8th and dropped off to 131. I ended up having fuel issues and was leaning out on the top end. Thats been resolved by going to a fuel cell with my winter build and adding a Weldon 2025 pump. If your looking to do your own setup, you should check out www.theturboforums.com you can find everything you need there.

Corey

camcojb
Feb 18th, 08, 12:33 AM
looks like fun to me............... :thumbsup:

Jody

Neal Wright
Feb 18th, 08, 5:38 PM
I can barely see an alternator in there ... How are your accessories mounted? Did you need special brackets? Is that all you run, is the alternator?

Thanks, Neal

6T7Chvlle
Feb 19th, 08, 12:39 AM
what do you have suspension wise...i love the stance on your 67

Ron454
Feb 20th, 08, 8:19 PM
I'm sure I'm going to have the pleasure of watching Coreys chute pop in front of me going across the line this year.

Ron

67TurboChevelle
Feb 20th, 08, 11:10 PM
I can barely see an alternator in there ... How are your accessories mounted? Did you need special brackets? Is that all you run, is the alternator?

Thanks, Neal

I built my own upper mount bracket that bolts directly to the head and acts as a spacer. The lower arm I ended up reshaping from the upper long sweeping arm you would normally see on a short water pump setup. The radius in the slot was perfect for this.

Here are a couple shots of the setup. I just run an alternator, the pump and fans are electric and I just switched over to a manual box.

I also found out that I will get the car back this Saturday from having the cage conversion done. If that goes well, I hope to have everything buttoned up this weekend and take it to the dyno next Friday. I plan on cruising the car over to the shop (about 10 miles away) and hopefully lay down 1050rwhp and cruise it home :thumbsup:

Thanks,
Corey

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/altshot.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/altmount.jpg

David Clayton
Feb 22nd, 08, 9:39 PM
Love the car:yes:

I wish I had...............................................
1. the knowledge
2. the money
3. the nutz to drive it:noway:

67TurboChevelle
Feb 23rd, 08, 10:53 PM
Love the car:yes:

I wish I had...............................................
1. the knowledge
2. the money
3. the nutz to drive it:noway:

Thanks David.
It definitely didn't happen over night and was a long time dream.

I got the car back today from having the cage conversion done. Tomorrow I'm going to tackle the new ARC control panel and redo all my wiring for my pumps and fans, remove the middle gauge cluster to clean things up inside.
Next Friday I should hit the dyno to dial this thing in. I should have some video and will post up a link for that :thumbsup:

Corey

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/cage1.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/cage2.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/cage3.jpg

67TurboChevelle
Feb 24th, 08, 7:44 PM
I got the chute mounted today. With the black ralleys on the car, the two just don't go hand in hand :D

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/chute1.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w157/67TurboChevelle/chute2.jpg

Kevin R
Feb 24th, 08, 8:23 PM
Do you run thoes BFG DRs?? Do they hook for ya. I bought a set to use this year on my 66. Its a stick car but Im aware of how to launch it without spin.

Brettd85
Feb 24th, 08, 9:13 PM
I see some rubber pasted to the lower QP's. Having fun? :thumbsup:

WHT/73
Feb 24th, 08, 9:55 PM
"I got the chute mounted today. With the black ralleys on the car, the two just don't go hand in hand"

I think it looks great ! I have black rims with loooong studs hanging out too.
(no turbo's :( )

Without the chute on there and no whistle from the turbo's (at idle) they won't know what hit'um. :boxing: :thumbsup:

67TurboChevelle
Feb 24th, 08, 11:07 PM
Do you run thoes BFG DRs?? Do they hook for ya. I bought a set to use this year on my 66. Its a stick car but Im aware of how to launch it without spin.

Kevin,

The BFG's don't hook very well , at least they didn't with my twin setup leaving at zero pounds and I know there is no way they will hook with the new setup. I only ran the BFG's because it was the only decent size radial allowed in our drag radial class. For the most part I will be running a slick this year so I can enjoy the new glide/trans brake combo :hurray:

Things are on track for a dyno session this Friday, so I hope to have some video to go along with some numbers, it should be fun :beers:

Corey

Ron454
Feb 25th, 08, 1:40 PM
I think I'm in trouble.......
Ron