feedphillipnow
Jan 24th, 04, 3:09 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6164&item=2454401260
EXPENSIVE! It doesnt sound worth it to me? Why are they asking so much.
Bomber '67
Jan 24th, 04, 3:29 PM
So that people will become confused about "value". Let me make this simple - for some people this is all a "game". If you spend much time around sellers like the one you linked to it will all become apparent to you. There is uneven knowledge in the collector/enthusiast marketplace about value - money is made based off this reality.
A simple reality check is to ask, particular vehicle aside, what else could be bought for that kind of money?
Thomas
Nickel333
Jan 24th, 04, 5:01 PM
Thats outrageous, a very nice restoration but 50,000 bucks??? Thats too much....BUT its got nothing on what these yayhoos pay on the Barret Jackson auctions on T.V. Its rediculous what some people will pay for a car
toddmoll
Jan 24th, 04, 6:31 PM
I almost bought it, but then I noticed he forgot the flywheel cover.
Todd.
That particular car has been for sale for at least a year since I first saw it listed(non-ebay). WAY OVERPRICED. I think even at B-J it wouldn't get close the the asking price. I do like it but the price is ridiculous. graemlins/clonk.gif
SILVERSS454
Jan 24th, 04, 10:41 PM
Sounds like another of the "Musclecar Walmarts" if you ask me. These are dealerships that sell nothing but musclecars....EVERY kind of musclecar. Some are on commission and some are actually owned by the dealership. They ask VERY unrealistic prices for these cars. Who they actually sell to is a mystery to me. Uninformed newly rich doctors, lawyers, brokers, etc? I can't see anyone who is the least bit informed on the market prices, buying from places like this. Your best bet is still to buy from the private owner and it is far cheaper to buy an already restored car than to do it yourself. Just watch out for shoddy work and cut corners!
mikehartwell
Jan 25th, 04, 12:36 AM
Well..hard to admit, but I got taken by one of the "cover jobs". Beautiful 67 = beautiful on the outside replete with a host of shiny little low cost items meant to catch my eye and divert it from looking to close at other things - like new cadmium brackets, shiny new bolts here and there, painted to look coated headers, painted to look new exhaust. Heck, they even painted the spring spacers black so I wouldn't notice them.
Because I hadn't wrenched for 25 years, because I hadn't been to this board to ask questions, and because I can afford pretty much whatever I want - I got fleeced. These guys were just waiting for a chump like me. A whole showroom of "new restorations", so much new paint in there I almost went blind - wasn't a single original paint job on the floor. Turns out they are pros at making crap look like hunks of gold to the novice eye. So, I bought one of these shiny new resto's for $26K and later realized the only numbers that matched were the tire sizes. The 396 was maybe putting out a wheezing 200hp. I learned lots of things like a pre-coat for the undercarriage that will cover 30 year-old dirt clods just as well as bare metal. Then you can spray a nice semigloss on everything and voila - looks good from a distance. And there's lots of stuff that covers rust just long enough to get a car sold. So, Each car had a very crisp description of what all had been done - mine was two sheets long - and a tiny little disclaimer at the bottom about the seller not being responsible for accuracy of representations about parts or workmanship.
The scam? An initial company buys the "unrestored" car, many with compromised titles. They sell it to a restoration shop. The resto shop does the squirt and shine and then consigns it to a dealership. Some PI work and a lot of state record scouring and we find out that all three operations were owned by the same guy. Bingo - got em on deceptive trade and false advertising.
So, same as my recent crate motor experience, I started the legal process and 4 years later recovered $15K of my $26K and about 65% of legal costs.
The car on ebay looks squeaky clean and doesn't look like a coverup for anything - just a really nice quality restoration. But for $49K, I have to agree that you can build the exact car YOU want - which is what I wound up doing anyway.