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: Oil pan for SBC *1G+ Pro Touring wet sump* windage trap doors


tunedbytad
Dec 20th, 07, 3:01 PM
I'm having trouble picking out an oil pan.
The help of my Chevelle brothers and sisters is needed.

Hurting a nice motor with oil starvation via turning G-forces, and extended high RPM windage is a reality.

What I'm looking for:
-kick outs
-trap doors
-windage tray
-5 or more qt capacity
-sheilded oil pickup

Fitment:
99' 350 Small Block Chevy Hydrolic Roller
Passesnger side dip stick
383 stroker
67' El Camino stock frame
Dynomax 4 into 1 Long tube headers
Remote oil filter with canton spin on adapter

I'm kinda thinking the Canton 15-242T

Yelcamino
Dec 20th, 07, 3:22 PM
I recently installed a Milodon road race pan (#31555) on the BBC in my Chevelle. The item description didn’t say it would fit a Chevelle chassis, but I decided to give it a shot anyway. What I ended up doing was modifying the motor mount frame stands by cutting ¼” off the front side of each stand. After reinforcing the stands and reinstalling the engine, it ended up being approximately ½” closer to the firewall. The pluses include increased clearance between the electric fans and water pump pulley, increased clearance between the steering shaft and header tubes, slightly better weight distribution (I would think), and of course, the needed clearance to run this excellent oil pan with 5 trap doors and a whopping 8 qts capacity.

I don’t know if you’ll need to modify anything for the small block, but you might take a look at Milodon #31505, http://www.milodon.com/oil-pans/road-race-oil-pans.asp

It has “…trap door battle system proven to provide good oil supply on left and right turns. Proven highly effective in SCCA and other competition. Fits Corvettes, Camaros and most popular chassis.”

Pan Capacity is 7 Quarts Plus Filter-
10" Sump Length, 7 5/8" Sump Depth

Naturally, after I write this, I see that you have a '99 block and the part number I suggested is for blocks up to '79. Maybe Milodon has a part number for the newer blocks.

Randy 67EC
Dec 20th, 07, 3:55 PM
I have Moroso's road-race oil pan on my 67 el camino, see here
http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=11955
It fits without modifying anything, but it is close to the crossmember. Also, headers can be an issue as well, at least for 1-3/4" headers, haven't looked at smaller ones. The kickouts are 4" out from the side of the pan on both sides, dimensions are on their site.

bochnak
Dec 20th, 07, 4:28 PM
Not sure if this would work:

http://www.geocities.com/casanoc/

Scroll all the way down

tunedbytad
Dec 20th, 07, 4:31 PM
99' SBC one piece rear main seal, PASSENGER side dip stick :-)

If it was an early block there would be more options,,,

bochnak
Dec 20th, 07, 4:38 PM
99' SBC one piece rear main seal, PASSENGER side dip stick :-)

If it was an early block there would be more options,,,

Whoops...sorry.

tunedbytad
Dec 20th, 07, 4:41 PM
I'm just glad to get help :-)

tunedbytad
Dec 20th, 07, 4:42 PM
I talked to Patty at Canton Racing
She said the the 240 and 250 pan would most likley fit.
And if it is ordered with a T in the end of the part # it is for 83 and up 1pc Pass Dipstick.

Has anyone here run a Canton 240 or 250?

tunedbytad
Dec 20th, 07, 4:43 PM
The item description didn’t say it would fit a Chevelle chassis, but I decided to give it a shot anyway. What I ended up doing was modifying the motor mount frame stands by cutting ¼” off the front side of each stand. After reinforcing the stands and reinstalling the engine, it ended up being approximately ½” closer to the firewall.

Do you have any pictures of that you can post.
I could live with the distributer closer to the fire wall.

Yelcamino
Dec 20th, 07, 5:29 PM
Do you have any pictures of that you can post.
I could live with the distributer closer to the fire wall.

:yes: Yeah, I can do that...

10992
In this pic, I cut the nose off each stand, about 1/4".

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For reinforcement, I swapped the ends I cut off to the opposite sides and then turned them around and trimmed each to fit the opening. I don't know if what I did was even necessary, but I felt better for doing it. :)

10994
You can see it installed here. Notice the 1/4" thick spacer on the back side of the stand. I considered welding the spacer to the stand but chose to slip it in place while I pushed the bolt through.

Before I modified the stands, I took various measurements with the engine in place. After I made the mods, I reinstalled the engine and took new measurements from the same spots. Even though I only removed a 1/4" from the stands, the engine setback ended up being 1/2", which was ok by me because it gave me the clearance I need to use the Milodon pan.
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airrj
Dec 21st, 07, 12:33 AM
Has anyone tried or at least seen Aviaid Oil Pans??? http://www.aviaid.com/

I saw them at the Parts Peddler Show in Syracue last year and their pan design was very interesting. I don't remember all of the details, but they have been around since the '60s and they did allot of work on the old CanAm cars and such back in the day. Their selection for SBC's is limited, but the trap door design is much different from Moroso, Canton, Milidon, etc. The sump is in a diamond pattern as opposed to a square. It was a nice design for a left/right car in my opinion. Here is a photo of one of their pans for a Ford.

http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/RonakCam/RonakAviaidPanBaffles.jpg

onovakind67
Dec 21st, 07, 12:56 AM
http://www.geocities.com/pcwright77/aviaidpan.jpg

We used an Aviaid pan on a front sump Nova road racer a few years ago. They modified a stock pan for us and it worked very well.

One of the best things we did to keep the oil pressure constant was to add an accumulator. The pressure variations during hard maneuvers were reduced considerably.

tunedbytad
Dec 21st, 07, 2:43 PM
Still looking!

Gokou
Dec 21st, 07, 11:54 PM
Aviaid makes a really nice pan... I know their small block Ford pans control oil better than a comparable Canton pan on a track.

I had Canton modify a 15-250 pan for my car to clear 1 tube on my 1.75" Hooker Super Comps. It's a very tight squeeze but it fits.

Pics/info here:

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125010&highlight=canton+hooker

They also make RH dipstick & 1-piece rear main versions.

Depending on your headers, it may fit as-shipped.

CarlC
Dec 23rd, 07, 12:33 AM
Champ and/or CV Products are another good option.

I will echo the comments on the accumulator.

airrj
Dec 24th, 07, 4:33 AM
Aviaid makes a really nice pan... I know their small block Ford pans control oil better than a comparable Canton pan on a track.

Any specific insight? Or anything good to read on the web?

Gokou
Dec 25th, 07, 9:57 PM
Any specific insight? Or anything good to read on the web?

2 early Mustangs prepped for road racing that a friend built, chassis setup almost identically, both with hot 289's in them also almost identical builds, but one engine had an Aviaid pan and one with a Canton pan because that's what he had in stock at the time. No accumulators on either engine. Same driver, same track day, sorting out the cars before delivering them. The engine with the Aviaid pan survived the day... the engine with the Canton pan did not due to oil starvation in turn 2 which is a very long sustained left hander. He saw the oil light flicker but ignored it and kept thrashing the car. The filter was full of bearing material. No pressure problems with the Aviaid pan.

That being said I'd hold the oil control advantage to the Aviaid at least for that particular application. My friend no longer builds any wet sump cars on slicks without an accumulator. He thought he could save a few bucks by omitting them... ended up costing him quite a bit more.

airrj
Dec 26th, 07, 8:45 PM
Cool Thanks.

eabride
Jan 8th, 08, 6:12 PM
Has anyone had any luck with the GM Performance Parts circle track pans. I have been eyeing #25534354 for a late model 350 build.

Gokou
Jan 8th, 08, 8:55 PM
Has anyone had any luck with the GM Performance Parts circle track pans. I have been eyeing #25534354 for a late model 350 build.

If it's a circle track pan I would expect baffles biased for LH turns and a pickup located on the RH side of the pan (for LH turns.) You would have to see the inside to verify, but that is usually the case with roundy-round pans.

Also, it does not look like the shape of the pan will clear a Chevelle crossmember.