Hello Everyone,
I was just wondering the chances of finding a # matching engine for a 67 Malibu with original tranny BW T-16 on the floor and a 3.08 10 bolt non posi rear. The cars build date was the 4th week of Feb 67.at Fremont. From what I have been reading one engine it took was a 327, 325 hp with a Rochester 4 bbl carb. Right now it has a 327 235 hp out of a 69 Impala. Would it be correct to look for a date of aprox. Nov,Dec,Jan, 66 for the date of the engine. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks:)

You probably won't find the numbers matching engine for the car if it's not in it already. You may, however, be able to find a "Correct" engine for it. Numbers matching in terms of drivetrain means the one that specific car left the factory with.

Thanks Tom
What should I be looking for to get the correct engine?

A block that is cast within 3 months prior of the car's build date is generally acceptable. Also, look for one with the correct suffix code on the pad in front of the alternator. For a 67, I don't know what it should be, but Dale probably has it listed on www.chevellestuff.com

If your car came with a 327 325-horse it would have originally used a 12-bolt rear (3.31 by default). The HD 3-speed was offered with literally every engine in '67 Chevelles. A 327 275-horse or a 283 would be legit.

The 325-horse used a Holley that year, while the 275-horse used a Quadrajet. For '68 the 325-horse started with the Quadrajet & cast iron intake manifold.

Hello Everyone,
I was just wondering the chances of finding a # matching engine for a 67 Malibu with original tranny BW T-16 on the floor and a 3.08 10 bolt non posi rear. The cars build date was the 4th week of Feb 67.at Fremont. From what I have been reading one engine it took was a 327, 325 hp with a Rochester 4 bbl carb. Right now it has a 327 235 hp out of a 69 Impala. Would it be correct to look for a date of aprox. Nov,Dec,Jan, 66 for the date of the engine. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks:)Depends on what you consider 'matching numbers'. To most people it means having the correct and original CON VIN stamped on the engine showing it to be original. In 1967 Chevelles the SS396 (which yours is not) had this CON VIN and most (if not all) L79 327/325hp engines had it, as noted would have required the 12-bolt and different gear set. So either you Malibu came with a 283/195hp V8 or a 327/275hp V8 with 3.08 geat set and 10-bolt which did not get a CON VIN stamped on them. And, there's not way to know which of the two your car came with without some paperwork.

Again, as noted before, a 3 month window is generally accepable but for a (not derogatory) run-of-the-mill 283 or 327, 30 days or less would generally be the rule. These were pretty much bread-and-butter engines and a long delay like 3 months would be unlikely. Even 396 engines from N.Y. were getting to Fremont in a week or two. ;)

Thanks guys. Now that I know what I am looking for,the search is on. Also have to mention what a great site this is.

John, looks like there were a bunch of casting #'s in 67 for a 327ci. that you can look for: Here's a link.

http://www.mortec.com/castnum.htm

Chances of finding "matching engine" < 1% :noway:
Chances of finging "date correct engine" > 99% :yes:
Good luck

The only way to ever have a matching numbers car is to find the original motor that was in the car when it left the assembly line. You have a better chance of winning the lottery.

Finding a date correct motor for you car will not make the car a numbers matching vehicle, no matter how hard you wishfor it. And going through the trouble of finding a date correct motor won't add a single penny to the value of the car. It will still be a replacement motor no matter what the build date. And if you are thinking of finding a date correct motor and re-stamping it, just remember, that's fraud and hardly worth the risk. So with that thought in mind, why bother? Just find a good motor for a good price and be done with it. Just my humble opinion.

Rich,
Just to let you know your humble opinion is very much appreciated.

I am going to disagree with Rich a little and use my current project as a example. It is a 69 SS, I am convinced so nothing else matters, that came with the original 4 speed and rear end. With all that I got with this car came a 83 454 needing to be built. The cost to build it would be $2000. In the meantime I have made arrangements to have a close date 396 built with the correct heads and intake for $2880. I feel it will certainly be worth the difference.

But to agree with Rich I am not sure the motor you are looking for will carry any extra value than the one you have. It will still be going in a small block Malibu. No offense. Seems you would money ahead to build the motor you have and know than to buy one you are not familiar with and have to build it too.

Every situation has to be evaluated seperately and yours may not about cost but how you want it. In that case there is no decision and it should be done to satisfy YOU.

The only way to ever have a matching numbers car is to find the original motor that was in the car when it left the assembly line. You have a better chance of winning the lottery.

Finding a date correct motor for you car will not make the car a numbers matching vehicle, no matter how hard you wishfor it. And going through the trouble of finding a date correct motor won't add a single penny to the value of the car. It will still be a replacement motor no matter what the build date. And if you are thinking of finding a date correct motor and re-stamping it, just remember, that's fraud and hardly worth the risk. So with that thought in mind, why bother? Just find a good motor for a good price and be done with it. Just my humble opinion.

I wonder how many unknowing owner's are out there there sitting in a SS or whatever, with a restamped block in there ride, thinking that they have the real deal. Everyone should check the casting # and build dates on things they own or are planning to purchase. It's easy to re-stamp a convin on the boss.

The only numbers that identify a 1967 293/hp or 327/275hp engine is a casting number, casting date, and (probably a Flint, MI.) engine ID stamp number which is NOT unique to a single Chevelle but rather a hp/trans combination. In one sense, any correct casting/date/engine ID that has no single vehicle specifc CON VIN number for identification would be 'numbers matching' - what numbers there are would match.

However, if a CON VIN were stamped on the original engine identifying the specfic vehicle it was installed in then that additional number/letter sequence comes into play and there can only be one correct engine for the car. ;)