Anybody out there have a Framingham MA built 66? Particularly a 04C. I would like to do a comparison of the last six numbers of the VIN tag and last four numbers of the COWL tag and see how they match up with mine. Or atleast what I have of mine.

I have a Framingham 05C '66 SS. What fours numbers and last six of the VIN do you have?

chevellestuff.com shows a couple of Framingham 04C trim tags. One is a Malibu sport coupe VIN 128301 with a 5 digit body number. The other is a SS396 with 3840 body number. Apparently Malibu Sport Coupes and SS396 Sport Coupes body numbers were numbered separately (no surprise), but the VINs should be in sequence. So that will give you an idea if your VIN and body number are close. Production information showing the last VIN produced each month for the Framingham plant is available at that site also.

Krister, that's actually where i'm having the problem. I only have a partial vin. I'm trying to figure out the last three. the body serial number is a 4 digit 3858 what i have of the last six is 127--- or 128---. If your's was a 128--- that would probably put me in the 127--- range. Haven't been able to get to a Con Vin yet. It's a 4/20/66 which I believe was middle of the week.
AZ, I think I did check that site and it has helped get me a little closer, If I had the vin on the SS I'm sure it would help but I don't think that's there. I did all the math with the GM records and I'm waiting on some help from the Police.

Krister, that's actually where i'm having the problem. I only have a partial vin. I'm trying to figure out the last three. the body serial number is a 4 digit 3858 what i have of the last six is 127--- or 128---. If your's was a 128--- that would probably put me in the 127--- range. Haven't been able to get to a Con Vin yet. It's a 4/20/66 which I believe was middle of the week.
AZ, I think I did check that site and it has helped get me a little closer, If I had the vin on the SS I'm sure it would help but I don't think that's there. I did all the math with the GM records and I'm waiting on some help from the Police.

I was doing some of the math also. With 2955 cars produced that month there would would be approximately 738 per week, so I calculated a range of VINs between 127434 to 128172. Obviously this isn't exact and that 04C Malibu is 128301 so that is probably closer to the end of the 04C range. Maybe rounding off to 127400 to 128300 would be an approximate range.

While I don't have any documented 'proof' but overwhelming evidence so far leads me to conclude that 64-68 trim tag body numbers are sequential based on the style number on the tag. That is why you will see examples like the two 04C Framingham tags that have body number of 12186 on a 13617 style car while the 13817 style car has a body number of 3480. It's because as of the 4th week in April, more 13617 style Chevelles had been built than the 13817 style. You will notice too that the 13617 style numbered tag has a 13517 VIN.

It is one example of why I'm tracking 66 & 67 VINs and corresponding trim tag info (specifically the style number, body build date & body unit numbers). It also helps show cases of even 3rd-digit style codes and odd 3rd-digit VINs like the Framingham example above. So, if anyone would care to send clear, readable photos of 66 or 67 VIN plates as well as trim tags, they are always welcomed. I will take just numbers for the database but prefer photos for verification. They will not be published unless you OK it and I can include the donor's name or not, your choice; in either case they will go into a spreadsheet for historical research purposes. Either PM me or send me an email. :thumbsup:

AZ, yeah that's pretty much what I have figured so far and I did notice that malibu with the 128---. It's a ashame I didn't know that date on the frame.
Dale I agree with you about the sequence numbers corresponding to body styles only. I guess for the body numbers to help it would have to be from an SS but VIN's from that range of all the other cars may help me narrow my search.

Krister, that's actually where i'm having the problem. I only have a partial vin. I'm trying to figure out the last three. the body serial number is a 4 digit 3858 what i have of the last six is 127--- or 128---. If your's was a 128--- that would probably put me in the 127--- range. Haven't been able to get to a Con Vin yet. It's a 4/20/66 which I believe was middle of the week.
AZ, I think I did check that site and it has helped get me a little closer, If I had the vin on the SS I'm sure it would help but I don't think that's there. I did all the math with the GM records and I'm waiting on some help from the Police.

Krister, Oops, just realized that yours was built a month after mine at a quick glance I was thinking a week after mine. so yours is probably a 13----. Well, If I had the body number it would help me to narrow down exactly how many SS were made between mine and yours. Dave McIntosh helped me just by showing me that there were 1867 made between the third week in December to the thrid week of April which averages out to just under 500 a month.

AZ, yeah that's pretty much what I have figured so far and I did notice that malibu with the 128---. It's a ashame I didn't know that date on the frame.
Dale I agree with you about the sequence numbers corresponding to body styles only. I guess for the body numbers to help it would have to be from an SS but VIN's from that range of all the other cars may help me narrow my search.Since the VINs were assigned when bodies were pulled from the body bank and body numbers tended to be sequential per model/series, chances are even if you find sequential body numbers, the VINs would still be pretty far apart. Might help get the first 3 digits but only close on the last three.

I have photos of 2 67 SS coupes from Fremont with consecutive body numbers (11 and 12), yet their VINs are separated by 43 other cars (xxx568 to xxx611). But I suppose the first 3 or maybe 4 is narrowing it more than just the first two, eh? ;)

absolutely, inch by inch and step by step, hey if I could get it down to forty three other vin#s I would be absolutley fine with that. beats 1500.

There 'ya go! Keep digging... :thumbsup:

Johnny, the body number on my '66 SS built the 3rd week of May is 4187. There was recently a good discussion (can't find it right now) on CON VIN locations with pictures of the CON VIN that is on the engine side of the firewall , but behind the blower motor housing. You might want to look into that as well.

Johnny, the body number on my '66 SS built the 3rd week of May is 4187. There was recently a good discussion (can't find it right now) on CON VIN locations with pictures of the CON VIN that is on the engine side of the firewall , but behind the blower motor housing. You might want to look into that as well.I don't think that was a common practice at all plants in 66/67 though. I remember several threads about it and many plants didn't practice this. But if the car is apart, it's certainly worth a look. :thumbsup:

My 66 is framingham built with a buld date of 06b and the last on 4 on the trim tag is 4509

I hate to ask either of you for the last six of your vin's and the build dates but if your comfortable answering me with even a partial I can take the imformation you give me and check it against the production numbers at chevelle.com. If yours fall on the date it would help me narrow my numbers (i.e. April averaged 98 cars per day, May averaged 98 as well and June averaged 107). If the averages fall close to your build dates I might be able to knock of several hundred numbers from my search. Mine was built on 4/20 which if I go by averages puts me in the 127820 - 127918 bracket but I have nothing to compare this to to see if it is anywhere near. I would really appreciate it.

You know i guess the proper thing would be for me to ask you guys to check the last six of your vin's against your build dates and see if the production numbers really match up somewhat closely. I feek kind of rude for asking. Sorry about that.

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scratch the idea above, i guess the best information I have so far is a 04c (my week) ending in 128301 from chevellestuff.com. if the end of march production numbers were at 125958 and they averaged 98 cars per day in April and saturday 4/23/66 was the last day of the 04c week then 23days x 98car per day =2254 cars built. 2254 cars built + the 125958 production numbers of march =128212 at the end of the day 4/23/66 according to the averages putting the 128301 just 89 cars past the average. That's pretty close, what more could I ask for. Sorry you guys had to witness that, my head kinda hurts now. You guys and this site are a great help I'm glad I found it.

SStwice according to my unrefined math skills yours in only 56 past the average for being built before the end of the day 6/11. That's pretty close. Might be safe to say your car was built on a Saturday. Thanks atleast I know the charts are pretty close around these april - june.

Krister or SStwice, don't suppose you ever found buid sheets in your cars? I guess the only place not left checked on mine is above the gas tank. It's probably the only original thing still eft on the car.

Krister or SStwice, don't suppose you ever found buid sheets in your cars? I guess the only place not left checked on mine is above the gas tank. It's probably the only original thing still eft on the car.

I have not. I have had the entire interior out except for the headliner, but not replacing that anytime soon.

yeah, i've had my headliner out and there was nothing. Ever dropped your gas tank?

The only place I have found stuff in for Framingham 65-69's are in the seats, either under the front seat or in the seat backs or in the springs of the top or bottom of the back seat. In 65-69, you will find a small paper showing stuff that was on the cowl tag and a number that was written on the firewall. In 69, you find a piece of paper almost the same size that is part of a regular build sheet but it is only the left 3 inches of the sheet. I have heard you can find full sheets above the gas tank in 69 Framingham built chevelles.

Warren

I have not found mine

I still have to drive up there to see your car. Everyday that was good for me had crappy weather. I will get up there one of these days as I have to go back to Browns Salvage.

Does your chevelle have the original interior?

Warren

yes it does, I have been contemplating redoing the seats this winter, they are in good shape just faded after 41 years.

Warren, I will have to check out the back seat. Is it good enough if the seats are not in the car and I can look over them real good or do I have to remove the upholstery? Also what is this number that you speak of on the firewall? "In 65-69, you will find a small paper showing stuff that was on the cowl tag and a number that was written on the firewall".

Yeah. On the 65-68 there is a two or three digit number that appears on the left side of that paper you find in the seats. That number is usually written on the firewall. I have seen some from each year like this. 69 will have a handwritten number on the sheet which should be on the firewall.

Warren