: Since we're talking jobs... I'm "Over Qualified"????
70_Malibu Dec 5th, 07, 10:55 AM What is that crud all about? I applied for a job, interviewed and thought I was in like Flint, and then I get a call saying I was "over qualified"??? I knew what the job entailed, and I knew in the long run I would have been better off financially, and with a certain degree more job security, but I get turned down for this reason??
It was the companies HR department that called and told me, but I still have the manager of the department's business card. You guys think I should call him and plead my case?
Utter Horsecrap.
67EC Dec 5th, 07, 11:02 AM You should definitely call and plead your case. If it really is because of "over qualified" they are worried you will take the job and keep looking for something better. Convince them you are not going to do that. It is a big problem for a manager when someone does that.
Byfield Dec 5th, 07, 11:03 AM It was the companies HR department that called and told me, but I still have the manager of the department's business card. You guys think I should call him and plead my case?
No. IF they called you with the rejection, they have someone else who's already accepted
But it could be helpful to call and ask why they thought you were over qualified. Never hurts to ask and it might help in your next interview
mmurphy77 Dec 5th, 07, 11:04 AM I think it's a way of telling you they don't want to pay you what you're worth. Sometimes, however, they feel if someone's "overqualified", they will not stay in the position, eventually seeking more money and/or something more stimulating. What could it hurt to call and plead your case? Nothing. I would. Good luck.
ChaosEnvy Dec 5th, 07, 11:06 AM Thinks thats bad.... I applied, interviewed, accepted, and showed up for work. Worked 3 days and was let go because I was overqualified. Seems I was scaring managment by knowing more than they did. I was a bit upset to say the least. Left my factory job for this job and it lasted 3 freaking days. Okay.. I'm over it now.. but geez...
Emptytank Dec 5th, 07, 11:09 AM I lost a job after 9 years with the company, they 'Outsourced' the entire IT dept. interviewed existing employees and seemed to only hire back ones that were still in the 'entry level' pay bracket. The official reason I did not get hired with the new company.....Over qualified! but really I was making more money than they wanted to pay for that position.
That was back in 2000, seems us over qualified people land on our feet pretty well as I had no problem finding another job.
So if you're over qualified for that job, it probably isn't the right one anyway.
Phil Keller Dec 5th, 07, 11:58 AM Call him and say you lied about those degrees and experience. That should get you in.
70_Malibu Dec 5th, 07, 12:19 PM I'll bet they found someone else who'll start for less.
I tried calling, and the manager is out of the office until next Monday. Grrrr.
Oh well... nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Thanks for the advice, guys!
d1_bradley Dec 5th, 07, 12:36 PM Checked your profile and at your age you have gained a work history but my bet is that one of your references or credit history or even (believe it or not) driving history, was "iffy". Even a SLIGHT blemish will raise a flag. Rather than take a chance, they go with someone else. The "over qualified" statement is an easy out for them. They don't have to explain their reasoning or get involved with lawsuits for the "bad" reference. I was in Sr Mgmt till I retired and believe me, these days they check EVERYTHING. This is not a slam on you, just be sure you check everything yourself and be positive there are no mistakes showing on your records.
dave_silva Dec 5th, 07, 1:14 PM My problem is I cant find enough qualified people to hire.
70_Malibu Dec 5th, 07, 1:36 PM Checked your profile and at your age you have gained a work history but my bet is that one of your references or credit history or even (believe it or not) driving history, was "iffy". Even a SLIGHT blemish will raise a flag. Rather than take a chance, they go with someone else. The "over qualified" statement is an easy out for them. They don't have to explain their reasoning or get involved with lawsuits for the "bad" reference. I was in Sr Mgmt till I retired and believe me, these days they check EVERYTHING. This is not a slam on you, just be sure you check everything yourself and be positive there are no mistakes showing on your records.
No, no slam. I understand that scenerio also. 10+ years at the same job and a credit score of 750. Pretty unstable, huh? ;) They never asked for references, unless they snuck behind my back. No priors/tickets, but I am going through a divorce. Would that look bad? I hope not.
Byfield Dec 5th, 07, 1:38 PM No, no slam. I understand that scenerio also. 10+ years at the same job and a credit score of 750. Pretty unstable, huh? ;) They never asked for references, unless they snuck behind my back. No priors, but I am going through a divorce...
Sorry to hear that
70_Malibu Dec 5th, 07, 1:41 PM Sorry to hear that
Thanks, I guess...
Stuff happens. It'll be all for the better. Lawyers ain't cheap though, that's for sure.
66 MYSTERY CHEVELLE Dec 5th, 07, 2:11 PM You guys think I should call him and plead my case?
Utter Horsecrap.
NO... HR is the one that ultimately makes these decsions and sometimes they just do the dirty work for the boss who really thinks you are not a fit for them.
I know I don't want someone working for me that is over qualified.. those people tend to get bored quickly, and don't stay long... if you are over qualified, you will not feel challenged and work will stink. Take it as a compliment.
MC
April of 08 will be (30) years at the same machine tool die shop for me, only job i have ever had. Small job shop with 12 workers doing very close aero aircraft work within .001 - .00005 all day long so i'm no rookie.
I plan my own job
make any tooling needed
write program if machined on any CNC
run job myself
I'm tired of this cold northeast weather here in CT. So i've been looking in the NC area and sending resume's out. Tons of machine/tool shops there. I'm hearing "over qualified" all the time.
I guess i should of said i'm just an button pusher and maybe i could find another job.
chevelledude71 Dec 5th, 07, 4:24 PM I thought it was "in like Flynn"?
Anyway, I've heard of the "over qualified" crap before too and it's a selection process that is hard to explain. My brother is a HR Manager and he said there are all kinds of reasons not to hire people. Depends on where you are from, like where he lives, "they" can fire you for any reason what so ever.
At least you get a chance for an interview. In the Corps, you get "selected" for promotion by people who don't know squat about you but what's written on a piece of paper.
70_Malibu Dec 5th, 07, 4:42 PM I thought it was "in like Flynn"?
I think you're right, but I was thinking of that old James Coburn Movie.
Yeah, at least my current job is decent, and hey, if I'm "over qualified" for that job I wanted, I guess I can try to set the bar higher...
jpete Dec 5th, 07, 5:18 PM April of 08 will be (30) years at the same machine tool die shop for me, only job i have ever had. Small job shop with 12 workers doing very close aero aircraft work within .001 - .00005 all day long so i'm no rookie.
I plan my own job
make any tooling needed
write program if machined on any CNC
run job myself
I'm tired of this cold northeast weather here in CT. So i've been looking in the NC area and sending resume's out. Tons of machine/tool shops there. I'm hearing "over qualified" all the time.
I guess i should of said i'm just an button pusher and maybe i could find another job.
If you applied where I work and you couldn't say you programmed a Mazak before, you would not be hired. I have friends that have your expirience and I could not get them in based on this.
Yet they will hire guys who "says" they have Mazak experience, but cannot demonstrate any proficiency. :rolleyes:
For those that don't know, if you can play connect the dots, you are well on your way to programming a Mazak. :rolleyes:
GRN69CHV Dec 5th, 07, 5:41 PM Get used to it - it's called the "dumbing down of America". Top management does not want employess with go get-em attitudes, it creates to much controversy. What big business wants is middle of the road employees, happy just to show up, put in 40 decent hours and go home. Best bet, seriously consider some busines venture of your own - I'm in the same boat now.
Beaux Dec 5th, 07, 5:53 PM Get used to it - it's called the "dumbing down of America". Top management does not want employess with go get-em attitudes, it creates to much controversy. What big business wants is middle of the road employees, happy just to show up, put in 40 decent hours and go home. Best bet, seriously consider some busines venture of your own - I'm in the same boat now.
In my field they DO want the "go getters" BUT - not so much a go getter as to potentially threaten their job. Upper management keeps middle management pinned and in turn middle management keeps the worker bee;s pinned down. The only way to move up is for someone else to move out and that just isnt happening. So they either outsource or keep folks where they are and if you start doing too well they will find a way to move you or give you a review that, although it might be a good one, still shows "room for improvement" and thus your locked where you are.
They want to like you, want you to show initiative but at the same time show too much and they feel threatened.
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