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66 283
Oct 6th, 03, 9:35 PM
:D

Bob West
Oct 6th, 03, 10:15 PM
:rolleyes:

BB_Mike
Oct 6th, 03, 10:23 PM
Red light. tongue.gif

Looks like a fun ET slip. Was the guy next to you peddling his huffy a little harder than normal? :D

Where's the Video?! Don't you need to get some FULL ON outtings before your tundra freezes over again? graemlins/thumbsup.gif

66 283
Oct 6th, 03, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Rapid Robert:
:rolleyes: Rapid Robert - you are my hero. :rolleyes: Please refer to signature below. :D

TronDD
Oct 6th, 03, 11:20 PM
Who was the shlep in the left lane with a 19.9 ET? Was he on foot? smile.gif

Tim.

66 283
Oct 6th, 03, 11:25 PM
I think he was a bike courier - he was all wired up on caffiene and who knows what else - he tree'd me though!

DragRacer
Oct 7th, 03, 12:04 AM
Ryan,

Congratulations on the new bests.

66 283
Oct 7th, 03, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by DragRacer:
Ryan,

Congratulations on the new bests. Thanks! It was my first pass of the year so things can only get better. Too bad it's gonna snow in a couple of weeks LOL.

Bob West
Oct 7th, 03, 7:49 AM
Just got it running a year ago,,,havent been to the track in a year,,,had to freshen the motor already,,,well,you've had your day at the track this year,better take it home and freshen it up again :D I wish I had more money than sense :rolleyes: I've been pounding on my little 454 for 4 years,currently 5th in points in No/E,and I have just as much fun at the track as you do Ryan,it still doesnt need to be freshened and you poke fun at BSE :confused:

go_to_guy
Oct 7th, 03, 9:30 AM
Originally posted by Rapid Robert:
Just got it running a year ago,,,havent been to the track in a year,,,had to freshen the motor already,,,well,you've had your day at the track this year,better take it home and freshen it up again :D I wish I had more money than sense :rolleyes: Well said.

I too have been following along with his saga of hurt and broken motors.Don't forget that he hurt this motor on the dyno twice and it was ready to grenade when he tore it down for freshening after how many passes?? If memory serves correctly, it was one race and 6 passes!!

Let's no forget either the famed 505 that was grenade as a result of inexperience and ego.

So with this street car, 4+ years in the making, 2 motors, several teardowns/freshenings due to parts breakage and countless $$ and hours wrenching, you've made how many 1/4 mile passes?? :rolleyes: graemlins/waving.gif

69 Ratt Vette
Oct 7th, 03, 12:13 PM
Put your car in the low 9's and then poke fun. I suppose Warren Johnson never breaks parts. I'll bet my Saturn could run several hundred 1/4 mile passes and never break a part.

The faster you go the stiffer the learning curve and the bigger penalty you pay when you miss the tune by a little bit. Ryan is tuning a 632 with nitrous, if you can do better step up.

knownothing
Oct 7th, 03, 12:35 PM
All you guys are still having fun doing this stuff right? :confused:

aubreyt213
Oct 7th, 03, 2:10 PM
A 632 and nitrous :eek: . It's like not even driving a car. LOL, you're driving a rocket on wheels graemlins/clonk.gif ! Maybe with a little more tuning you'll break the sound barrier. Seriously though, those are sick times, awesome job, would give anything to go that fast, must be so fun. Respect due to anyone making those kind of times graemlins/thumbsup.gif . You need a video.

Adivanman
Oct 7th, 03, 3:37 PM
Well done Ryan - low nines in Calgary is high eights anywhere else (the NHRA index correction is three tenths). On top of that, tuning in no air is harder than you think (especially on a track where VHT is treated like gold).

blumont
Oct 7th, 03, 3:52 PM
66 283, incredible times. Do you have a picture of your car?
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Jerry

-SS454-
Oct 7th, 03, 5:17 PM
Ryan, glad to hear you got the car back on the road. Congrads on the new best. Especially that 60ft. graemlins/thumbsup.gif Perhaps you should run some kind of two stage or something, make sure you back up that 60ft, then unload after the 330' and see how far in the 8s you get. Looking at your timeslip, that reminds me of John Shepherds Talon's timeslip.

His was

60 - 1.347
330 - 3.837
1/8 - 5.823@122.39
1000 - 7.525
1/4 - 8.944@158.95

Your 1/8th was 119.84, so when that nitrous died, your mph dropped pretty good. Curious how far in the 150s you'll be. BTW, Sheppard has now gone 8.7@165 for anyone wonderin.

And to the people bad mouthin him because of his troubles. Its already been said he's running a 632 with nitrous, in bad air, with a monster cam in 3800+ lb car on 13.5" DOT tires I do believe. You fail to realize how many street mile he's put on that car. In a city, with stop and go driving. Get a cam with 285+ degrees duration @.050 and .800+ lift, and 1000# springs. Lets see if your valve train and such need refreshed after a year of street driving and drag racing.

undee70ss
Oct 7th, 03, 5:23 PM
Originally posted by 66 283:


P.S. I still drive it to the track. :D Congrats on the new bests :D :D :D
Almost a 8 sec street driven ride :eek: :eek: :eek:
How far do you drive it to the track?

Georgia69
Oct 7th, 03, 5:34 PM
Hey Ed...oops, my bad, I meant go_to_guy...hey go_to_guy, does the phrase "turd in the punch bowl" mean anything to you?

Big Block Dave
Oct 7th, 03, 5:58 PM
Ryan....YOU are a freakin madman!

This guy is knockin on 8 sec timeslips and 150mph!

MAT
Oct 7th, 03, 6:48 PM
Glad to see it back together and running - I imagine it was a tough to put everything on the back burner while the new addition to the family settled in - paying back in spades now!

Just my opinion - Looks like you suck when you break parts - then suck when you don't. Suck when you're trying to go fast - then suck when you are going fast.

WOW - better not talk to you any more - cause you suck!! LOL

Nice job!

Bottles must be for babies - cause they all start cryin when it gets turned on....

MAT

66 283
Oct 7th, 03, 8:34 PM
Originally posted by Rapid Robert:
Just got it running a year ago,,,havent been to the track in a year,,,had to freshen the motor already,,,well,you've had your day at the track this year,better take it home and freshen it up again :D I wish I had more money than sense :rolleyes: I've been pounding on my little 454 for 4 years,currently 5th in points in No/E,and I have just as much fun at the track as you do Ryan,it still doesnt need to be freshened and you poke fun at BSE :confused: Hey bud - I didn't give any details - but the freshening wasn't because it was broke! It was because the machinist I used last butchered my crank and thus the bearings, he also buggered up the valve seats and I had 55% average leakdown. LOL

I've also been busy with international work travel and have a new baby boy so I had better things to do than play with my car. (sorry I stopped sending those postcards robert)

The reason your 454 (and good for you by the way :rolleyes: ) lasts so long is because it doesn't make any power! Plain and simple! LOL
And you have as much fun running high 11's as I do running low 9's? Hmmm... :rolleyes:

And go-to-guy - nice try Eddie! Ha ha!

Thanks for the good words everyone - hope to post some 8 second timeslips here in a few days.

(And the tires I was running are ET Streets measuring 10.8" on the ground.)

MAT, you crack me up - you are correct - I suck period! :D

Undee, the track is only 15 mins away - but I did burn almost a full tank (20gal) without getting out of the car on the weekend. smile.gif

Now I'm going out to the garage to put my street exhaust back on it so I can play on the streets some more before the snow flies.

66 283
Oct 7th, 03, 8:49 PM
Originally posted by go_to_guy:
Let's no forget either the famed 505 that was grenade as a result of inexperience and ego.
Inexperience and ego? Your memory is failing you ed - go to the hospital immediately and tell them that you have Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease and you are going fast! graemlins/clonk.gif

It was a result of a bad block - that should have been half filled. I still have the cylinder if you want me to send you a care-package. :D

go_to_guy
Oct 7th, 03, 8:54 PM
Some of you need to get out more often and I don't mean out to a car show /cruise meet to bench race but rather get your azz to a race track.

http://gallery.godragracing.com/racing/Atco_Thrill/Lou_Air

http://gallery.godragracing.com/racing/atco_05-29-2003/ATCO_180

try 8.34@165 on for size and that's with only 540 cubes and a fogger setup, 10" converter, 4.10 gear, 10" tire at 3600 lbs.!!!

Yet as impressive as this ride appears, it's not the quickest 540 in these parts nor does it always qualify for the quick 8 series he competes in.

BTW, around these parts, our 632's in street cars run in the 7's with the quickest in the 7.40's!!! tongue.gif

Of course these smart guys are from Jersey not some dumb canuck, short on common sense big on ego.

mr.66 knows where the smart guys are and who's running quick since he's asking the owner of this Chevelle for advice! graemlins/clonk.gif

graemlins/thumbsup.gif graemlins/waving.gif

10secBu
Oct 7th, 03, 8:54 PM
Ryan,

Glad to hear your making progress. I sure hope you can find a machinist to get things straightened out for you...seems like the original guy cost you alot of extra work and $$$.

I think many of us here are at times too critical of what others do with their cars & money. I know I have been guilty of that in the past and have to always look in the mirror when making posts as to not do so very often.

Ryan may be spending money in ways some may feel is foolish, but at least he's doing something he loves and is following a personal dream. Others may simply be jealous and not want to admit it. There have been many times I've basically thrown money away on things others thought were foolish.

Too each his own I guess.

Keep pluggin away at your goals Ryan and keep us posted along the way...definately hard core there fella driving a low 9 second street car graemlins/thumbsup.gif graemlins/beers.gif .

66 283
Oct 7th, 03, 9:01 PM
Originally posted by go_to_guy:
Some of you need to get out more often and I don't mean out to a car show /cruise meet to bench race but rather get your azz to a race track.

http://gallery.godragracing.com/racing/Atco_Thrill/Lou_Air

http://gallery.godragracing.com/racing/atco_05-29-2003/ATCO_180

try 8.34@165 on for size and that's with only 540 cubes and a fogger setup, 10" converter, 4.10 gear, 10" tire at 3600 lbs.!!!

Yet as impressive as this ride appears, it's not the quickest 540 in these parts nor does it always qualify for the quick 8 series he competes in.

BTW, around these parts, our 632's in street cars run in the 7's with the quickest in the 7.40's!!!

Of course these smart guys are from Jersey not some dumb canuck, short on common sense big on ego.

mr.66 knows where the smart guys are and who's running quick since he's asking the owner of this Chevelle for advice!

graemlins/thumbsup.gif graemlins/waving.gif HA HA HA! Ed, you are a broken record and have posted all that before - go read my response last time as I'm not going to waste bandwidth to reply to you. graemlins/boring.gif :rolleyes:

Of those really fast cars, how many actually run on the street? You failed to mention that I am running half the nitrous on one stage than he is running on each of two? LOL


Never said I was the fastest in the world (or the fastest red chevelle :rolleyes: ) - but I'm having fun and someone's jealous. Or is it the Creutzfeldt-Jakob's?

http://www.cjdfoundation.org/CJDInfo.html


Running tens of thousands of 10.47's might make you go nuts also... :rolleyes: graemlins/thumbsup.gif graemlins/waving.gif

Bob West
Oct 7th, 03, 9:31 PM
Okay Ryan,you win...I'll take my slow 454 and go home. At the current exchange rate...a 9 second pass in Canada is what? a 13.50 pass in the good ole US of A :D graemlins/thumbsup.gif graemlins/waving.gif

MAT
Oct 7th, 03, 10:07 PM
Ed - that 540 Chevelle is WOW!! 8.30s - blow my mind - these small tire cars.

Heard a story about Ricky Carlos from Toronto (mid to lower 7s back-half 2nd gen Camaro in mid 1990's - ran a few NMCA matches) going down to Jersey to make some noise - some of these "street terrors" come rolling out of enclosed trailers - cash in hand with chutes packed!

DOH!


MAT

Adivanman
Oct 7th, 03, 10:17 PM
Ricky Carlos
Al Billes
Rick DeStefano
Ryan Davenport

The Canadians seem to be able to hold there own when they go south....

Thad
Oct 8th, 03, 7:44 AM
Congrats on you new best Ryan, graemlins/beers.gif
Very Impressive. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Seems to me, that guys like Ryan, (and Ed, and Tom, and Ken, and Todd and Robert) DO some very impressive things.

(There are more than those guys too)

But the operative word is DO ,
I like to read about all of their accomplishments.
And philosophies on speed and quickness.

I fiqure all of them can teach me a thing or two about improving the performance of my car.

They all take different approaches.
And thats cool. If everybody did everything the same, it would get boring fast. graemlins/sad.gif

All the above mentioned, are quicker faster than my car. :confused:
(But all of the above have spent more money, time, and effort to get there, so they deserve to be.) tongue.gif graemlins/waving.gif

Bob West
Oct 8th, 03, 8:11 AM
You're right Thad graemlins/thumbsup.gif but Ryan has a chip on his shoulder,as you can tell by whats in his signature,so its my duty to give him a hard time :D

Rumblin70SS
Oct 8th, 03, 8:47 AM
Some of you need to get out more often and I don't mean out to a car show /cruise meet to bench race but rather get your azz to a race track.

http://gallery.godragracing.com/racing/Atco_Thrill/Lou_Air

http://gallery.godragracing.com/racing/atco_05-29-2003/ATCO_180

try 8.34@165 on for size and that's with only 540 cubes and a fogger setup, 10" converter, 4.10 gear, 10" tire at 3600 lbs.!!!

Yet as impressive as this ride appears, it's not the quickest 540 in these parts nor does it always qualify for the quick 8 series he competes in.

BTW, around these parts, our 632's in street cars run in the 7's with the quickest in the 7.40's!!! [Razz]

Of course these smart guys are from Jersey not some dumb canuck, short on common sense big on ego.

mr.66 knows where the smart guys are and who's running quick since he's asking the owner of this Chevelle for advice! I've seen this 70 Chevelle before at Cecil run an 8.33 on NOS.

Talked to the owner for quite a while at one of Cecils street car shootouts they have at the first weekend of the month.

Nice guy to talk to and this car not only runs well, but is beautiful too.

From what I was told, the car runs 10 teens on the motor and low 8's on the bottle.

I don't know how many stages that was on but it has 2 foggers and a plate.

Car is also an original SS car and he is supposedly getting ready to do another this winter!! :eek:

66 283
Oct 8th, 03, 9:24 AM
Yes, it is a beautiful car - and it runs 1.30 60's! :eek:

I've corresponded via email with the fellow and he is very helpful. smile.gif

66 283
Oct 8th, 03, 9:27 AM
Originally posted by Rapid Robert:
You're right Thad graemlins/thumbsup.gif but Ryan has a chip on his shoulder,as you can tell by whats in his signature,so its my duty to give him a hard time :D heh heh. It took me all of 5 mins to make that signature pic - did it for the kid - too funny to remove 'cause it kinda sums things up! graemlins/thumbsup.gif graemlins/waving.gif

Brian Holcombe
Oct 8th, 03, 9:29 AM
Maybe you need to see a psychiatrist, becuase "the kid" and the "mad cow" dont care.

New68SS
Oct 8th, 03, 9:39 AM
Hey Brian,
We were all wondering when you where goin to sign up and chime in.
Welcome aboard!

Dwayne

Tracy Focht
Oct 8th, 03, 10:08 AM
Awesome times...for all cars.....does it really matter who's is faster?

Enjoy the sport...and don't loose sight of your goals...that's all that matters.

"Talk is cheap, and supply exceeds demand...."

Chill out some...relax... smile.gif

Bomber '67
Oct 9th, 03, 12:02 AM
Ryan, Awsome run buddy! If I ever get my blower motor in a decent car/chassis setup I too may join the 9 second club (high 9's).

I say kudos to both those who have achieved stellar performance on slim budgets as well as those who spend the bucks for a primitive warp drive. There really is room for everyone - but I must say that those who whine about "the money some people spend" fairly well drip with envy. I find it mind blowing that someone posts about their low 9 second close to 150 mph run - yet somehow that is not good enough for those who favor simpler 10/11 second combos? As to how often he races or has even run his car, Ryan hasn't exactly made it a secret that he is a young man with a growing family and that he is in the growth years of his career.

I look forward to hearing about some 8 second runs - better yet I want to see the video!

Thomas

Buddy
Oct 9th, 03, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Bomber '67:
Ryan, Awsome run buddy! If I ever get my blower motor in a decent car/chassis setup I too may join the 9 second club (high 9's).

I say kudos to both those who have achieved stellar performance on slim budgets as well as those who spend the bucks for a primitive warp drive. There really is room for everyone - but I must say that those who whine about "the money some people spend" fairly well drip with envy. I find it mind blowing that someone posts about their low 9 second close to 150 mph run - yet somehow that is not good enough for those who favor simpler 10/11 second combos? As to how often he races or has even run his car, Ryan hasn't exactly made it a secret that he is a young man with a growing family and that he is in the growth years of his career.

I look forward to hearing about some 8 second runs - better yet I want to see the video!

Thomas That was a good post Thomas, I agree with you.

Jason_67_Beaumont
Oct 9th, 03, 12:49 AM
Yeah a 'in car' video with SOUND would be awesome! You had a older video with the camera on your rear bumper, I couldn't believe the sound of that thing. Take us for a ride!!

66 283
Oct 9th, 03, 2:28 AM
thanks for the good words guys - I just got back from pounding the pavement on the streets for 3 hours. Kept 180-190 deg the whole time on 91 octane!

I'll try to get some video this weekend. Fingers crossed for 8's. My guess is that if it hooks, it will run an 8.70 at about 155. I'll weigh it too - I'll bet 3800+ with driver.

graemlins/beers.gif

Rumblin70SS
Oct 9th, 03, 7:45 AM
Ryan,

How the heck do you run that motor on 91 octane? I thought you had alot of compression in that motor............do you just use the 91 octane for street driving and stay out of it? Answers are greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance!!

Richss396
Oct 9th, 03, 10:16 AM
Ryan,

You've got one fast street/strip car! Lots of time and $$$'s I'm sure... I was wondering if you'd share a little about your suspension and tranny setup?

I've been corresponding with 383Malibu (Roger Copeland) for a few weeks now who has been quite helpful. My car is a ladder-link/coil-over sutup like his. He's running 10.0's on a 3500 lb Malibu with a normally aspirated small block. We've both stick cars. I haven't had mine to the strip yet, but its a 408 (625 hp) NA, and has a pro-race fogger that I haven't tried yet.

Any information on how you glue a high HP/torque nitrous chevelle to the track would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Rich Hexemer

69 SS396

Thad
Oct 9th, 03, 11:23 AM
Seems like its time for another video Ryan.

I watched the old Nitous Video over and over again.
My wife thought I was nuts.

505Nova
Oct 9th, 03, 5:27 PM
Glad to hear you got it running again Ryan. I'm trying to remember your earlier 60's but having a hard time - it's hooking better now right? Sounds like it's flying pretty good. graemlins/beers.gif

66 283
Oct 9th, 03, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by Rumblin70SS:
Ryan,

How the heck do you run that motor on 91 octane? I thought you had alot of compression in that motor............do you just use the 91 octane for street driving and stay out of it? Answers are greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance!! Rumblin, it's only 11:1 ;)

66 283
Oct 9th, 03, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Richss396:
Ryan, I was wondering if you'd share a little about your suspension and tranny setup?

Any information on how you glue a high HP/torque nitrous chevelle to the track would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Rich Hexemer
69 SS396 Well, I'm far from the authority on hooking up a high torque nitrous chevelle - it's still a work in progress but I think it will eventually go in the high 1.20's. Nothing fancy - ladder bar coil over in the back, stock front a-arms with del-a-lum bushings, moog big block springs with a coil cut out, and hal qa1 stocker stars.

I think the biggest improvement was the hal shocks and I have only made one full pass with them so far.

I tried my luck with the bolt on stuff - the art morrison bars - they worked fine, and actually with the same motor the 60's were the same as with the ladder bar, just much less consistent. I'm sure it would have worked but it sure didn't feel as safe when you lost traction at 3/4 track... Mostly it's due to our track - the most poorly prepped track in the developed world. We are going IHRA next spring so hopefully it will get a facelift.

Tranny is nothing special either - plain jane TH400 with minimal upgrades. Tranny brake valvebody, the better sprague, etc. Cheap borg warner frictions. I burnt it once last year, but it was repaired in less than an hour for a case of beer. :D

SO, the car is basically stock, added cage and ladder bar, and a big engine. Not scienced out, but fun nonetheless.

66 283
Oct 9th, 03, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Thad:
Seems like its time for another video Ryan.

I watched the old Nitous Video over and over again.
My wife thought I was nuts. I'm flattered - if you lived closer I'd let you hold the camera on the street. graemlins/beers.gif

Richss396
Oct 10th, 03, 7:30 AM
Ryan,

Thanks for the information! I fell better about my ladder bar setup as I didn't think they would produce such low 60 ft. times and was considering a 4-link.... Didn't want to do all that cutting if the rear floor though.

Can you share what rear gears and tires your running?

Also more about your nitrous setup?

Thanks! graemlins/thumbsup.gif

66 283
Oct 10th, 03, 1:26 PM
Originally posted by Richss396:
Ryan,

Thanks for the information! I fell better about my ladder bar setup as I didn't think they would produce such low 60 ft. times and was considering a 4-link.... Didn't want to do all that cutting if the rear floor though.

Can you share what rear gears and tires your running?

Also more about your nitrous setup?

Thanks! graemlins/thumbsup.gif Gears are 3.70's - the rest of the nitty gritty is in an email to you.

66 283
Oct 11th, 03, 12:19 PM
Ran the car last night - temperature was right around freezing - could see your breath - and it was too cold for them to VHT the track, so traction was severely limited.

Left full on with the nitrous and proceeded to smoke the tires and spin them hard for the full pass, lifting several times to avoid the wall. Left two dark tracks right through the traps - went 9.6 @ 147. Went through the lights and the rear end try to pass me and I HAD to pull the chute. :eek:

A sucker for punishment, I lined it up again about 10pm in the dark and freezing temperatures and ran a 9.2x @ 151mph, with smoke rolling off the tires through 1st and second - checked the playback and I lifted something like TWELVE TIMES. LOL.

Someone got some video and I'll try to get ahold of it today.

THORSS70
Oct 11th, 03, 1:59 PM
Could not imagine driving that monster down the track, it would scare the crap out of me :D

66 283
Oct 11th, 03, 2:29 PM
In the spring I'm going to take it out to a sea level REAL track and it will be easy to drive. Can't wait!

MAT
Oct 11th, 03, 8:17 PM
Trailer it down to my place - hit London and Cayuga - plus the asphalt payouts can't be beat!

Still sounds like you need to come out on the timing control and first stage plate - grab the fogger in second - then roll into the second stage of nozzles (or plate smile.gif ) in the 2-3 shift.

Now your burping the third stage when its squirrely - pedalling unloads the tires (anti-squat suspension now works against you - plus the soft staged dominator) and rolls the car off the chassis preload. You get back into it - car rolls back under load - a little bump steer and sidewall distorton - you start into a long slew till your forced to pedal again . . . .if your lucky the slew happens (again)in the same direction - unlucky - slew starts in the other direction - slicks roll over on the sidewall - and the car SNAPS to the opposite attack angle. Hello wall !

Three small stages = dial in the poison.

IMO


MAT

66 283
Oct 11th, 03, 9:25 PM
LOL Mat you are hillarious. I was actually only running one small(ish) stage - and even on this track on a warmer day with VHT and less nitrous it hooked solid, no spin. That's leaving WOT on the brake with the nitrous on when I let go.

MAT
Oct 12th, 03, 1:01 AM
These new cheater timing boxes......yummmm.

All I had was a multi-step retard - when the night dew would be falling - I would move my third gear retard chip to the dash switch, and put an additional 4 degree retard on the shifter switch - if the "drift" started I wouldn't pedal or come off the button - just pull the timing to settle it (maybe 1/2 a sec or so)- and no puff out the exhaust to give away how big a hit I was using.

LOL - crazy dirt track tire days! Its a wonder I'm still alive.

MAT