: Vortec 350 Combo-Your Thoughts?
Savage396 Oct 30th, 07, 9:24 PM Fellas,
I've combed through the search results on both here and at NastyZ28.com. I've tried to find what the consensus was as far as a cam was concerned, I just want to run it by the gurus and see what you guys think. The combo is for a 70 Camaro (don't shoot me, I still drive a Chevelle :D ).
1970 350 block
stock internals (I've been told freshened up-if need be, will set compression to 9.5ish to 1)
RHS Pro-Torker Cylinder heads w / 64cc chambers
Lunati Voodoo 60102
Edelbrock Performer RPM Vortec
Holley 650 DP
Hooker Comp headers
T-56
4.10
Car is a full weight 70, will have A/C eventually.
The car will be driven quite extensively (long cruises, etc.) and thus I want something that will keep up with a lightly modded LS1. Let me know what you think.
BillsCamino Oct 30th, 07, 9:29 PM Hopefully you've got a dish piston in order to keep that 9.5 CR target.
Other than that...I like!!! :thumbsup: Have Fun.
Savage396 Oct 31st, 07, 8:20 AM I didn't really shoot for any specific horsepower number, looking for maybe 375-400 to the rear. Like I said, the main goal is to keep up with lightly modded LS1s. This combo do the trick?
BillsCamino Oct 31st, 07, 8:46 AM I didn't really shoot for any specific horsepower number, looking for maybe 375-400 to the rear. Like I said, the main goal is to keep up with lightly modded LS1s. This combo do the trick?
Assuming the RHS heads flow close to GM's Vortecs, I'm sure you'll be in the 375 hp range.
71malibu406 Oct 31st, 07, 8:54 AM your combo should be good for low 13's possibly high 12's, so i'd say you're in the ballpark depending on what "lightly modded LS1" means.
onovakind67 Oct 31st, 07, 9:50 AM I didn't really shoot for any specific horsepower number, looking for maybe 375-400 to the rear. Like I said, the main goal is to keep up with lightly modded LS1s. This combo do the trick?
I think you're going to need a little more motor than that to get 375-400 rwhp.
fabio Oct 31st, 07, 10:32 AM you will see those numbers at the crank, but not at the rear wheels. You will be able to keep up with a LT1, not a ls1.
BillsCamino Oct 31st, 07, 10:34 AM Sorry...I missed the RWHP reference! :clonk:
I meant 375 HP at the crank is reasonable.
mad hooker Oct 31st, 07, 11:03 AM you could stroke it out to a 383...everything the same youd be over 400 hp
dgrobels Oct 31st, 07, 11:25 AM stroke it youll never regret it the torque and the feel in the paints is night and day compared to a regular ol 350
id use this cam
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=LUN%2D60103&autoview=sku
Savage396 Feb 6th, 08, 11:06 PM Resurrecting my old thread due to updates:
I got my hands on a 383 short block for a song, and here is my potential setup:
Speed Pro flat tops with 2 valve reliefs (6cc)
SDPC modified Vortecs (good to .550)
should be around 11 to 1 compression
Eddy Vortec RPM intake
Lunati 60103
Hedman 1 5/8'' headers
2 1/2'' X running to Hooker Aerochambers
750 carb
3.23 rear
T-56
Camaro_fever68 Feb 7th, 08, 12:44 AM Resurrecting my old thread due to updates:
I got my hands on a 383 short block for a song, and here is my potential setup:
Speed Pro flat tops with 2 valve reliefs (6cc)
SDPC modified Vortecs (good to .550)
should be around 11 to 1 compression
Eddy Vortec RPM intake
Lunati 60103
Hedman 1 5/8'' headers
2 1/2'' X running to Hooker Aerochambers
750 carb
3.23 rear
T-56
Unless you planning to run race fuel, the compression needs to drop a point to run that short cam.
BillsCamino Feb 7th, 08, 6:25 AM Unless you planning to run race fuel, the compression needs to drop a point to run that short cam.
:yes: Vortec heads don't require as much timing as a conventional head but that's still a little too much compression for pump gas.
fabio Feb 7th, 08, 8:25 AM yeah to the above posts and get atleast 4:11 rear gears. What style of cam do you want? Don't forget that vortecs in most cases have a 63cc chamber.
Savage396 Feb 7th, 08, 9:35 AM I want something liveable on the streets, as this will be driven to work on 2-3 times a week. I know, that's a tall order with 11.1, and that's why I made the mention of E85.
E85 has made its presence known in various locations on my way to work, and is a viable source of race fuel.
How big a cam should I be looking at to bleed down some cylinder pressure for 93?
I don't have power brakes right now (most likely Hydroboost in my future) and some bigger gears to take advantage of the T-56.
Camaro_fever68 Feb 7th, 08, 10:28 AM :yes: Vortec heads don't require as much timing as a conventional head but that's still a little too much compression for pump gas.
I know vortecs :yes: Mine liked 32 degrees.
I want something liveable on the streets, as this will be driven to work on 2-3 times a week. I know, that's a tall order with 11.1, and that's why I made the mention of E85.
E85 has made its presence known in various locations on my way to work, and is a viable source of race fuel.
How big a cam should I be looking at to bleed down some cylinder pressure for 93?
I don't have power brakes right now (most likely Hydroboost in my future) and some bigger gears to take advantage of the T-56.
That would work on E85. I believe the cam required to safely run 11:1 would be more than you're looking for. Something like the Lunati Voodoo 60105. But then that cam is probably too much for your heads.
BowtieAaron Feb 7th, 08, 1:42 PM sounds good.
my vortec combo is 355 10:1, brodix ik 180's, voodoo 60122 hydro roller. 300-36 holley intake, and 3310 holley carb. im hoping for 12's.
aaron
travis g Feb 7th, 08, 1:58 PM sounds good.
my vortec combo is 355 10:1, brodix ik 180's, voodoo 60122 hydro roller. 300-36 holley intake, and 3310 holley carb. im hoping for 12's.
aaron
What part of that is "vortec"?
BowtieAaron Feb 7th, 08, 3:21 PM the block. thats about it. 96-2000 4 bolt main truck motor.
aaron
fabio Feb 7th, 08, 6:17 PM just for reference a fellow had a nova with 383 11.4 comp with vortecs that went mid 11's. The cam he used was a cam motion hydraulic with 236-246 @ .050" and around .494/.513" on a 108lsa.
firestone13914 Feb 8th, 08, 9:34 AM The 383 looks like a much more powerful motor than the 355 you listed. I have to agree, although, that 11:1 is asking for problems. I had a 355 (specs below) that was in a 1972 ventura (same as nova) that ran right with a stock ls1. This particular motor liked gear. I originaly had a 2.73 gear and a 700R4 with a 1900 stall. The motor was really doggy off the line. I then went to a 3.90 gear and it absolutely screamed. I could also run ~2800 RPM at 75 MPH on the interstate and got 18 mpg because of the 700R4. Keep in mind that the 700R4 has a much deeper first gear than a T350 which helped a lot off the line.
355
9.9:1
Vortec heads with Z28 springs
224 230 @.050 .477 .480 lift 110 lsa hyd flat tappet
performer RPM vortec intake
650 holley DP
1 5/8th inch long tube hooker comps
I figure this motor was right around 375 hp compared to other dynoed combos. The 383 you have posted is very similar except with more cubic inches, it should work great (as long as it does not preignite)
Last thing, make sure you incorporate the need modifications to run E85. I am fairly sure you can not just run regular gasoline parts.
Adam
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