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: Locker Rear..


Chirp08
Oct 17th, 04, 12:55 PM
I've seen it mentioned a few times, the locker rear from jegs for $200.00

I have a 12 bolt peg-leg right now, and wanted ot know is this basically a bolt on? Is there anything else required? Will this wear out my tires in turns or has the technology improved to prevent this?

mr 4 speed
Oct 17th, 04, 1:49 PM
takes less than one hour to install(very uneventful)
and no,it doesn't wear out you tires,unless you light 'em up all the time :D

Chirp08
Oct 17th, 04, 3:19 PM
and there is nothing additionally needed?

mr 4 speed
Oct 17th, 04, 4:43 PM
Originally posted by Chirp08:
and there is nothing additionally needed? No

Chirp08
Oct 17th, 04, 4:49 PM
damn now i cant find it anymore for that price :/

turbo
Oct 17th, 04, 6:05 PM
I have the powertrax lock-right and it works great,& is easy to install http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=2006&prmenbr=361

mc71454
Oct 17th, 04, 7:27 PM
I have run the same one in my Monte for the last 5 seasons..Just installed one in my Buick

Chirp08
Nov 13th, 04, 12:57 PM
sorry to bring this back, but i just got a question, my friend that the locker in the link will only transfer power to the wheel with the most traction, does this mean it still wouldn't do a 2 wheel burnout?

mr 4 speed
Nov 13th, 04, 6:25 PM
Originally posted by Chirp08:
sorry to bring this back, but i just got a question, my friend that the locker in the link will only transfer power to the wheel with the most traction, does this mean it still wouldn't do a 2 wheel burnout? ...trust me,it will light both tires..all the time! Sounds like your friend doesn't have a clue ;) :D

Chirp08
Nov 13th, 04, 6:35 PM
nah, my friend is really good on this stuff, but he just inferred that from reading hte description, its not very detailed.

I deffinantly want to get htis though :D

mc71454
Nov 13th, 04, 6:39 PM
Originally posted by Chirp08:
sorry to bring this back, but i just got a question, my friend that the locker in the link will only transfer power to the wheel with the most traction, does this mean it still wouldn't do a 2 wheel burnout? Well Hot Darn...I must have some more 60 ft on tap for my ride if I change to a spool !! :D

Seriously, TRUST Me and Mr. 4 Speed. BOTH rear wheels are POSITIVELY Locked together Like a Spool when launching in a straight line..

You will be very happy with the product. Good Luck

Rad Racer
Nov 13th, 04, 7:58 PM
I just installed a Lock Right. I've never ever had a rearend apart before and it only took me about 2 hours to install. Haven't driven the car yet, so don't know if I did it right, but it works by hand.

wyatt
Nov 14th, 04, 1:27 AM
What's the effective difference between posi and lockers? Do the lockers make much difference?

thunderstruck507
Nov 14th, 04, 2:28 AM
I bought a new Eaton posi when I built the 12bolt for my car and it's more than enough for me.

I would make sure it works ASAP, a friend of mine put one in his mustang and it only worked for about a month. When he went to the strip it wasn't locking and was acting like a peg leg. Prolly a rare thing but it just shows anything can happen.

Adman
Nov 14th, 04, 2:45 AM
Originally posted by wyatt:
What's the effective difference between posi and lockers? Do the lockers make much difference? lockers lock both wheels while posi will unlock during corners and stuff.

mr 4 speed
Nov 14th, 04, 5:50 AM
Originally posted by Adman:
lockers lock both wheels while posi will unlock during corners and stuff. ...lockers unlock during turning and corners as well.A spool does not.

RatONaStick
Nov 14th, 04, 11:27 AM
lockers unlock during turning and corners as well as long as you arent under power.

what i personally dont like about any locker is that under power(even light power) in a turn they will lock and cause the car to push to the outside of the turn.

while my car is no autocross machine i still like to power through the turns at times, especially during the exit. for this reason alone i like the eaton posi over any locker on the street.

to each his own

Chirp08
Nov 14th, 04, 11:43 AM
damn thats not good because my chevelle is driven daily :(

i wish i could afford to put a posi in it, but from what ive read i would need a whole new rear, and even a package deal that includes everything would run me in the 1000's which i cant afford with an upcoming head swap :(

thunderstruck507
Nov 14th, 04, 1:39 PM
Originally posted by Chirp08:
damn thats not good because my chevelle is driven daily :(

i wish i could afford to put a posi in it, but from what ive read i would need a whole new rear, and even a package deal that includes everything would run me in the 1000's which i cant afford with an upcoming head swap :( How is putting in a locker any cheaper?

You just need the posi and new seals and bearings basically. You can prolly get an eaton off ebay for about $300, that's where I got mine.

Chirp08
Nov 14th, 04, 2:24 PM
this locker is $201.00 from jegs and is a direct bolt on with nothign else required. This is good because i frankly dont know what is truely involved to do the conversion.

$300 for hte posi unit iteself isn't bad, but i was told id need everythign from new axles to the housing.

thunderstruck507
Nov 14th, 04, 10:25 PM
Um...you don't need a new housing or axles. A posi simply replaces the open differential to one with clutches and pressure plates ect in it.

I don't see how you're going to get a locker in any easier. If the axles have to come out you still need to replace the seals and everything else that would be involved with putting in a posi.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with a locker and for that price it will still be cheaper.

The only way you would need to replace the housing and axles is if you're talking about switching from a 10bolt to a 12 bolt (or vice versa). They make posi units for either so all that's really required is disassembly and reassembly with the posi UNLESS you buy a unit that is made for axles with more splines than the stock unit.

thunderstruck507
Nov 14th, 04, 10:31 PM
One more thing I'm unsure about, are truck and passenger car carriers the same? I'm pretty sure the gear sets are not interchangable but I'm not sure about the actual carrier.

I just looked at the link to jegs, and it's talking about use in trucks so I was just going to point out possible differences. There may be none but better safe than see you drop $200+ to find out the thing won't fit.

I'm sure someone will chime in...

Slowpoke70
Nov 14th, 04, 11:09 PM
According to Big Gear Head, the truck/auto are NOT the same for a 12bolt, not sure about the 10 bolts. Might be a good idea to ask over in the Transmission forum, we have lots of Professionals that post over there.

Umass
Nov 15th, 04, 1:18 AM
has any one tried the new gear type differentials. the ones that lock up the wheels but transfer power to the wheel with the most traction. it seems like you were describing that type originally but every one has been talking about traditional lockers the ones that click around corners and stuff.

mr 4 speed
Nov 15th, 04, 6:51 AM
This is part # for the $209 locker at www.jegs.com (http://www.jegs.com) for the passenger car 12 bolt
754-1910

It's advertised for truck applications,but the part # is for a passenger car.
This has all been obviously verified.

So far,I have installed 2 of these with no problems,and I have an original powertrax locker I bought 2.5 years ago used and I have put 10K miles on it and over 50 dragstrip passses with DOT drag rubber.

..they all work flawlessly.

Chirp08
Nov 16th, 04, 4:42 PM
the eaton site only advertises their locker for the limited slip axles, there must be something else that you forgot to mention that is required to switch to posi.

Slowpoke70
Nov 16th, 04, 5:58 PM
Like I said earlier, go to the Transmission forum and ask away.

biggearhead(BGH), OldaniMotorsports and Jake Shoemake all do this stuff for a living. If anyone knows how to answer your Q's, they do.

'69Larry
Nov 16th, 04, 6:11 PM
There's a big difference between installing a Lockright Locker and putting in a new/used differential. Installing the lockright should only take a couple of hours with basic hand tools, and doesn't require the removal of your present one-legger. Putting in a new/used posi diff is a whole other proposition, requiring a bit of know-how, and some specialized tools. Not to mention that if you don't know what you're doing it's going to be an all day affair.

One other thing: make sure that your present differential is really a non-posi unit and not simply a worn out limited-slip unit. The Lockright Locker will only fit in an open diff. If you've got a worn out posi you'll have to hunt down and install an old open diff in order to use the Lockright. Again, not a fun proposition.

Chirp08
Nov 16th, 04, 9:46 PM
ok i guess its time to do some research, i gotta get hte numbers off it tommorrow.

hotrod71chevelle
Nov 16th, 04, 10:11 PM
so will a locker wear tires out when turning?

ak69
Nov 17th, 04, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by hotrod71chevelle:
so will a locker wear tires out when turning? Not that I have noticed with my Currie built 9" with Detriot locker. It's not the corners that wear on my tires.........the block long burnouts does increase tire wear a little :eek:

mr 4 speed
Nov 17th, 04, 5:20 AM
Originally posted by hotrod71chevelle:
so will a locker wear tires out when turning? no..the locker "unlocks" for turns.
I guess all the detailed info I've posted on this board about the Powertrax doesn't get thru to people ;) :D

Chirp08
Nov 17th, 04, 8:26 PM
well what you said seems to contradict others, i was told earlier that if i accelerate out of a turn both wheels would lock.

RatONaStick
Nov 17th, 04, 8:48 PM
chirp

the locker will unlock through turns as long as you arent accelerating. if you maintain a steady speed it will unlock, but if you give the car more throttle to accelerate during the turn the unit will lock and cause the car to push like i mentioned.

mc71454
Nov 17th, 04, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by RatONaStick:
chirp

the locker will unlock through turns as long as you arent accelerating. if you maintain a steady speed it will unlock, but if you give the car more throttle to accelerate during the turn the unit will lock and cause the car to push like i mentioned. Yes !!!!

Chadwick, If you like to speak to me on the phone I can answer every possible question you could have about the Powertrax / Lock Right and what you will need for your 12 bolt application...

mc71454@hotmail.com is my Email and I will send you my Phone number.

Everything Mr. 4 Speed and RatOnAStick said is true.