Check this out.. This person is selling aged window stickers.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-1967-1968-1969-1970-1971-CHEVELLE-WINDOW-STICKER_W0QQitemZ150175517816QQihZ005QQcategoryZ42 606QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Check this out.. This person is selling aged window stickers.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-1967-1968-1969-1970-1971-CHEVELLE-WINDOW-STICKER_W0QQitemZ150175517816QQihZ005QQcategoryZ42 606QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Of course the're aged, the cars are old! :rolleyes:

This guy says this: "Dealer to whom delivered...if unknown? we can help"

I'd really like to know how he obtains this information; I want to know my car's original selling dealer. In fact, I sent him a question asking this; we'll see what he says ...

A great deal of TIME and patients goes into every window sticker created

Cool, they have Patients.. and I thought I was the only one with PATIENTS here :sad:

I wish some of these guys who claim they are reproducing window stickers and Build Sheets and protect plates for SHOW ONLY.. would take it to the next level and stamp them in red ink REPRODUCTION

Then, I might believe them!

This guy says this: "Dealer to whom delivered...if unknown? we can help"

I'd really like to know how he obtains this information; I want to know my car's original selling dealer. In fact, I sent him a question asking this; we'll see what he says ...

It's obvious they help by fabricating a dealer name.

Dog Ear a corner, make a couple small tears and spill some coffee on it.

$85 Bucks Sucker :)

A great deal of TIME and patients goes into every window sticker created

Cool, they have Patients.. and I thought I was the only one with PATIENTS here :sad:Have you checked some of those patients lately to see what they're up to? Maybe they have something going on the side. :D

I agree 100% - all these 'novelty' documents should be originally watermarked with REPRODUCTION - NOVELTY USE ONLY' MAybe Oklahoma will go after these guys as well. :D

The guy answered my question; this is what he said:

"Dave, there is no way... In most cases the car was shipped from the Assembly plant STATE to an 'area' state. For example if the car came out of Atlanta...in most cases the car was shipped somewhere in the Southeast and a little ways up the east coast. Another way is if you have an idea as to what state the car might of came from we can pull an address from our collection od dealer addresses and find one that was in business the year of your car.
JIM"

I wish some of these guys who claim they are reproducing window stickers and Build Sheets and protect plates for SHOW ONLY.. would take it to the next level and stamp them in red ink REPRODUCTION

Absolutely, this is just more ammo for the scammers. :sad:

Sadly, reproduction window stickers have been on the market for quite some time and most aftermarket retailers sell them. OPGI, Ground Up, Paddock, and probably other suppliers sell them as well.

According to http://www.window-sticker.com/ they've been printing them for 28 years. Funny but when you read their FAQ page, you can't call them because they're a part-time business. Huh? 28 years and they're still part-time?

No one would mistake a windowstickers.com one for a real one. At least they're not aging them! I have one and I see a bunch of them at Chevelleabration as well.

If you contact GM about paper work for your car they give you Triple A Enterprises info and tell you they can help.

World of difference between the INTENT of two sources being discussed here.....ebay source listed and Triple A Enterprises. The same holds true for the diffence in the buyers that would choose between these two sources. Only one reason why someone would buy an artificially aged reproduction of a window sticker. As has been stated anyone could tell the difference between Triple A's and the aged version being represented on ebay. It's one thing to put one up in your window at a car show and something totally different to use to misrepresent in the sale of a car.

Does Triple A still require a buildsheet to generate a reproduction?

I think AAA does require buildsheet info on Corvettes, but on my '68 Caprice and '71 Elky, I just filled out the form with the RPO's that I had and got the stickers, no other q's asked.

The same holds true for the diffence in the buyers that would choose between these two sources. Only one reason why someone would buy an artificially aged reproduction of a window sticker.

You would be surprised (as would a lot of us) if the truth was known about a lot of cars out there - maybe some we own and maybe some owned by people we know. Unfortunately there are many who do this paperwork fabrication silently we can't pick them out like this seller on eBay. There are probably more fake SS cars being sold as real than you or I can imagine. They have paperwoork, matching VIN codes etc. The fact is there is money in faking it so people will do it.

Tony -

I thought that was my point.....what other reason is there to buy or sell an artificially "aged" document?

Personally I think you'd have to be some kind of queer to have one of those sheets on your car unless it was the real deal...car show or not...but that's just my two cent BS...

What kind of queer?

Dave no offense really man...I knew you would come back on that...it is just my opinion...I think it is gay for people to provide documentation that is fake...no matter what the circumstances...hey they are just old cars....nothing personal...I'm not trying to be homophobic hahahaha...if you want a windowsheet representing your car that is cool... :beers:

I run a reproduction Sheet on my car as well, and the majority of onlookers stop in amazement and look at the Sheet. They all comment on the original price of the car and talk about the price of the options. They all seem to stop and focus on that piece of paper listing the options.


Sometimes, it's not always about What's original.


Sometimes, it's about presentation on the show field, and the the enjoyment of the onlookers.

The specators who bring thier 16 Year old kid to the show to show them Muscle cars, and having them react with Awe at the original price of the car in 1970........With the car representing exactly what it might have looked like, on the Show Room floor after delivery in 1970.....

That's what it's all about.

If all you want to do is jack your car up, put some slicks on the rear and run under 12 seconds in the 1/4, you won't get it.

If you fully expect to win Best GM or Best of Show with you car at a local Show, then it means detailing to the 9's, to include reproduction labels, tags, Visor warnings, Fuel specification tags, paint dabs, QC markings, Posi and Jacking Instruction Labels, Air Cleaner Decals, Date coded spark plug wires and yes................ Even reproduction build sheets.

Tony -

I thought that was my point.....what other reason is there to buy or sell an artificially "aged" document?

I agreed with your point that people would use them for selling cars, but my point was that people would used fabricated paperwork and restamped parts for their own cars - meaning cars they aren't selling. Collection cars that are "fakes". Like paintings, rare coins etc. before us - we now have a lot of fake SS chevelles and other muscle cars

A window sticker isnt going to make a car worth more anyways. Even if it is real or fake. There are a lot of other more important documents for that.

Personally I think you'd have to be some kind of queer to have one of those sheets on your car unless it was the real deal...car show or not...but that's just my two cent BS...

Jeff, A recommended technique. Rather than calling someone or something by a pejorative. Ask the question Why? Why would someone put a window sticker on their car window was answered very well by 69396SS (John?)
In my case I have the original window sticker which I keep in a notebook and a color copy that I put in the window at shows. Now that I have explained it does it still sound "queer"?

simmer down fellas. i have a question, if i was to post my cars options can someone put the dots on the i's and cross the t's in a fake reproduction build sheet or window sticker. i am waiting for an answer. :D:thumbsup:

Jeff, A recommended technique. Rather than calling someone or something by a pejorative. Ask the question Why? Why would someone put a window sticker on their car window was answered very well by 69396SS (John?)
In my case I have the original window sticker which I keep in a notebook and a color copy that I put in the window at shows. Now that I have explained it does it still sound "queer"?

I don't know crap about the car show judging thing boys...thanks for educating me...Yeah I guess it isn't so strange after all...I have a question though...if one was really trying to win an important car show would you use the real window sticker??? Might a judge give such a car a little more creedence or whatever as opposed to a car that was sporting some reproduction sheet???

What Judge?

Diamond certification 1000 point judge?

Or, the judge at the local Firefighters, Lions Club, Town hall, Malt Shop Cruise in?

Your local show judge may, or may not know anything about Chevy's at all. He may be a mopar guy, but he knows a car with a flawlessly straight body, he knows mirror gloss paint, he knows presentation with Visor instructions, QC markings and all of the attention getting details to include the Window sticker.

Again, no Concourse level Chevrolet specialized judge is going to be impressed by the bright White buildsheet loaded with Errors.

It's for the presentation at your local shows and enjoyment of the spectators.

So to answer your question, No, I really don't think a documented thouroughbred numbers Matching LS6 going for the Gold Spinner award is going to paste one of these on his window.

But I will.

As for the chemically aging though? Now that's a whole different story, and different motivation.

I dont have the original window sticker nor the build sheet for my car. but can document every option that it was ordered with. can someone fabricate both that would be correct for my car so to speak. not for fraudulent use, just to have. and how much would that cost. all family owners. matter of fact it had hardly not any options at all, except for the one big one.

If you want a repro sticker than don't waste you time on Ebay. You can go directly to the folks who make them and get exactly what you want.

Personally I think you'd have to be some kind of queer to have one of those sheets on your car unless it was the real deal...car show or not...but that's just my two cent BS...

Why would anyone call someone else a queer (or any other name) just because they choose to do something different. ?

:confused:

Why would anyone call someone else a queer (or any other name) just because they choose to do something different. ?

:confused:
Maybe he didn't mean "queer" as in gay, not that there's anything wrong with that (being gay that is) but queer as in "strange" ?
Anyway, if the document in question is used to deceive someone into thinking the car is something it wasn't originally ? It could be considered fraudulent ? "Buyer Beware" But as a conversation piece at a a car show ?
It's just that, a novelty.

Maybe he didn't mean "queer" as in gay, not that there's anything wrong with that (being gay that is) but queer as in "strange" ?
Anyway, if the document in question is used to deceive someone into thinking the car is something it wasn't originally ? It could be considered fraudulent ? "Buyer Beware" But as a conversation piece at a a car show ?
It's just that, a novelty.

What he said...hahhahaha
It ain't no big deal...
Being politically correct is just a fad it will one day pass...jimminy christmas...

a window sticker is for what purpose, well to me it would tell me what the dealer, or a customer ordered the car with as in options. does not mean anything other than that to me. if i had one i would put it on the window too. but i would not post it there if the information was not correct. if i had my build sheet back and was in good condition i would as well show it for people to see. i know 70 gold nugget and i am sure he was not name calling, just making a statement of how he feels about the window sticker fake or not. :yes:

If I ever get a factory 68 - 69 tripower I was going to put it on my 67 Camaro and have a window sticker made listing it as a special factory late prototype or have the words on the sticker to that effect. Most car guys would see it for what it is which would be in good fun since no Camaros ever had tripower.