I've noticed several members with the "Gold" status. I'm just wondering what the requirements are. I have a couple of extra six packs and gobs of unneeded Chevelle parts. Just give me an address to send these to so I can also be a "Gold" member. :D Really, in all seriousness, what are the guidelines here?

I don't think any amount of money will buy one but could you have someone will one to you?

The price is...
YOUR SOUL. ;)
and a beer

I'll sell mine for 10 mil :D

Nope, just like the new Z-16's, they are all gone. :(

Gold membership was only given out to a few of the very first members.

I feel it should be an upgrade, but the powers that be have killed that idea.

I guess because we joined later in life we are undeserving of that title or stature.

This subject leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
And no I have nothing against our gold members, you were just luckier than us late bloomers.

So, instead we have to put up with sponsors that are not all that reputable.

Just my .02

z16... as in tire gloss??
http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Z-16

z16... as in tire gloss??
http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Z-16


Nope
http://www.z16chevelle.com/

z16... as in tire gloss??
http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Z-16



LOL...Jennifer do you own a Chevelle?
Z16 was the 1st BBC Chevelle produced in 1965

The radiator alone is worth thousands.

LOL...Jennifer do you own a Chevelle?
Z16 was the 1st BBC Chevelle produced in 1965

The radiator alone is worth thousands.

Yes i do
and no i didnt know that :confused::(

I still have some original dry-rotted Wide Ovals, but definitely wouldn't air em up. They can be Armour-All'd and made into clocks though. I'll supply the clock kits!!!:D:D It's all good. I've always been an underpriveledged underachiever.:)

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Gosh Dean, 18,000 posts. You must've been here when my 66 was built.:D

Hope I didn't offend...sitting here with a nasty flu bug and when I am sick, all logic and reasoning go out the window.

Sorry....still a bit bitter about the gold thingy

awww its ok :noway:
I got a little offended, lol, but its okay, everbodys gotta learn sometimes.
Hope you feel better!

p.s- forget the gold status, ill settle for silver, even bronze haha

Well Jennifer I do apologize...http://formel1saison.de/php/ecards/grusskarte_sorry.jpg

PS if you see my screen name...lol

awww thanks =]
apology accepted! hope you get well soon.

Gold membership was only given out to a few of the very first members.

I feel it should be an upgrade, but the powers that be have killed that idea.

I guess because we joined later in life we are undeserving of that title or stature.

This subject leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
And no I have nothing against our gold members, you were just luckier than us late bloomers.

So, instead we have to put up with sponsors that are not all that reputable.

Just my .02
Sorry chevyguy. I actually missed this post, but totally agree with you. I personally feel that a status should either be earned or bought. That's the way it is almost anywhere else. I am an AVID member of this site and I won't make any waves to the way things are run here. I'll respect the rules and structure of this site as long as I'm a member here. It would be nice if a Gold membership could be bought though. I'm not rich, but would definitely scrounge up the cash for the status mainly just to make this a better site. Just think, If the Gold status could be bought how many members would buy into it making this site even better than it already is with the added funds. Maybe one day they'll reconsider this. :)

Na! Everybody knows it is more fun to be "Elite"!;)

I feel that Team Members should be put on a list to upgrade Oldest member first...
Much like the golf memberships. If a gold member leaves then they give up that prestige. Hey Al, what do you think???

How about a Gold Club Society?

We could have secret meetings and initiate Gold prospects. :D :p




Very secret society, you would be the only member. LOL

I feel that Team Members should be put on a list to upgrade Oldest member first...
Much like the golf memberships. If a gold member leaves then they give up that prestige. Hey Al, what do you think???

I have to disagree here. I feel the list should go by post #'s. Someone who's been here for 5 years and only has 500 posts shouldn't take presidence over someone else who's been here a year with 1500 posts. Post #'s show a member's dedication to the site.

Or just the only guy on this forum confessing to using make up on several occasions :p


I have to disagree here. I feel the list should go by post #'s. Someone who's been here for 5 years and only has 500 posts shouldn't take presidence over someone else who's been here a year with 1500 posts. Post #'s show a member's dedication to the site.


I disagree, what about post whores?!?
Who post 50 posts a day sayinng yeah, hi, cool and etc?

I have to disagree here. I feel the list should go by post #'s. Someone who's been here for 5 years and only has 500 posts shouldn't take presidence over someone else who's been here a year with 1500 posts. Post #'s show a member's dedication to the site.


Now that one leaves you open for a shot; Quality Quantity hmmmmmm
Take this in the humorous way it IS intended!!!!:yes::D

:(
next time steal a better line!

Well this one time at band camp......
:D

That just sent a shiver up my spine and a knot in my stomach thinking of the rest of that line!:eek:

lame lame :p
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

I forgot the rest of that line! lol

Or just the only guy on this forum confessing to using make up on several occasions :p





I disagree, what about post whores?!?
Who post 50 posts a day sayinng yeah, hi, cool and etc?

I knew the post whore issue was next and I will defend this one also. For starters, this site is one of the best moderated sites I've been a member of. It's also primarily composed of more mature folks who have a goal and an interest. This fact alone eliminates 99% of the whoring issues that'll be found on many of the F-body, Mustang, and other sites that tend to breed a huge following of teens and twenty somethings who don't have anything better to do than get on their favorite car sites and post meaningless posts for hours. I'm not saying by any means that these people don't have a right to do this, but in many cases these other sites' activities and conversations are very closely related to what would be typical of MySpace. This is NOT the case here on Team Chevelle. The only "How you doing's" or "What's up" messages I've ever seen on this site are on the Team Chevelle chat room, not on the message board. The message board here is taken very seriously and will remain that way.

Badges???????? We Don't Need No Stinkin Gold Badges!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, as you can see, nobody with gold status or above will respond to this question with any truth or forth-rightness.

I asked Al & Dot several times, in very nice but differing ways what a gold member was and what it took to be one. the only response I got every time was, 'There are no gold memberships available at this time'.

I've been here since 96, not 98 like the above states. I still have no clue what GOLD means. I guess it's like a skull & bones society????????? All sworn to secrecy. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Nice car Jen.

Someday when I grow up, I want to be a goldmember. Then I can finaly change my name to Austin Powers!:boring:

Well, as you can see, nobody with gold status or above will respond to this question with any truth or forth-rightness.

I asked Al & Dot several times, in very nice but differing ways what a gold member was and what it took to be one. the only response I got every time was, 'There are no gold memberships available at this time'.

I've been here since 96, not 98 like the above states. I still have no clue what GOLD means. I guess it's like a skull & bones society????????? All sworn to secrecy. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!
If you've been here 11 years now than an answer to this surely should have been provided to you. With an 11 year tenure here you are a cornerstone on this site. You've obviously helped out many other members here through the years and my hat goes off to you. I've only been here for a couple of years and feel like an answer to this question is due to me. I can only imagine how you feel.

Well, as you can see, nobody with gold status or above will respond to this question with any truth or forth-rightness.

I asked Al & Dot several times, in very nice but differing ways what a gold member was and what it took to be one. the only response I got every time was, 'There are no gold memberships available at this time'.

I've been here since 96, not 98 like the above states. I still have no clue what GOLD means. I guess it's like a skull & bones society????????? All sworn to secrecy. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Actually it has been answered time and time again. You can find quite a few threads on it, in particular if you look in the members discussion forum. There is nothing secret about it.
The golds were limited to 201 and cost $34.95.
At first if some one dropped off there was a waiting list.
Unfortunately that did not work well when a gold tried to renew a little later so Al decided to stop that process.
For being a gold you got a name@chevelles.com email transfer account, more PM storage, more photo storage, and a slight discount on TC merchandise.
I am a gold member and have not seen anyone who is a gold member act the way you infer. IMO your lack of knowledge on the subject is your own doing since the info is readily available via the search function. There is a link in my signature to get you started. Happy searching. :)

If you've been here 11 years now than an answer to this surely should have been provided to you. With an 11 year tenure here you are a cornerstone on this site. You've obviously helped out many other members here through the years and my hat goes off to you. I've only been here for a couple of years and feel like an answer to this question is due to me. I can only imagine how you feel.

No offense, but in my opinion you are not "owed" an answer. The only answer that needs to be given has been given, they're no more goldmemberships available. Enough said. For what it is worth though, gold members get a few perks that a standard member doesn't, basically things like larger showroom space and such. They also pay more every year than a standard member pays.

I guess I don't understand why so many people get in a tizzy on this site because they can't be gold members?!?! Whats the big deal, you missed out on it when they were available, just like I did, whoopdeedo!! Thats life, their are countless things that I would buy if I could go back in time, I can't, so I deal with it.

As far as gold membership going to those with higher post counts, I would stand up and loudly proclaim "Hell NO!!!!" Their are quite a few members on this site that spend little to no time outside benchracing and current events, thats fine if thats what you want to do, but racking up a post count with generally meaningless posts should in no way earn one gold status. Now if the post counter only worked on posts that a person actually offered up meaningful advice in one of the technical forums then perhaps. I myself spend a majority of my time in benchracing, and I do not feel as though I am earning gold status with my posts here.

Again, Gold memberships were offered up back around '98 I believe. Their were only 201 available, they all sold and that is the end of them.

Jeff

Thanks for clearing this issue up Jeff. I've never dug deep enough to find this info for myself, but still thank you for providing it. I'm sure these same thoughts and issues have come up here numerous times. Have you guys ever thought of offering some type of other elite membership? My main thought here is that an elite elite membership with a pricetag would draw more revenue to this site, thus making it better for everyone. Any info or thoughts on this would be appreciated Chevelle Tech Mods.

. . . I still have no clue what GOLD means. I guess it's like a skull & bones society????????? All sworn to secrecy. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I kinda liked this explanation best. :)

Greg

No offense, but in my opinion you are not "owed" an answer. The only answer that needs to be given has been given, they're no more goldmemberships available. Enough said. For what it is worth though, gold members get a few perks that a standard member doesn't, basically things like larger showroom space and such. They also pay more every year than a standard member pays.

I guess I don't understand why so many people get in a tizzy on this site because they can't be gold members?!?! Whats the big deal, you missed out on it when they were available, just like I did, whoopdeedo!! Thats life, their are countless things that I would buy if I could go back in time, I can't, so I deal with it.

As far as gold membership going to those with higher post counts, I would stand up and loudly proclaim "Hell NO!!!!" Their are quite a few members on this site that spend little to no time outside benchracing and current events, thats fine if thats what you want to do, but racking up a post count with generally meaningless posts should in no way earn one gold status. Now if the post counter only worked on posts that a person actually offered up meaningful advice in one of the technical forums then perhaps. I myself spend a majority of my time in benchracing, and I do not feel as though I am earning gold status with my posts here.

Again, Gold memberships were offered up back around '98 I believe. Their were only 201 available, they all sold and that is the end of them.

I agree, nobody is "owed" anything. It's just a human respect thing to let others know what's going on. As far as the post count issue, I disagree with you just as I did with Jennifer. You may be correct on the idea that many folks spend the majority of their time in the benchracing section and technically don't give many quality answers to questions. My point is that anyone who dedicates as much time to this site as many of the members here do should be given special provisions. Whether or not they positively add to the site is entirely subjective. Dedication and loyalty outweighs knowledge.

Frankly, I'm tired of people bringing up the Gold Membership topic. It's been dealt with numerous times in the past. I've been here since 1998, and I could care less if I have a Gold flag designating me as a Gold Member. Big deal. Hats off to those who scored a Gold Membership. All it means is they have contributed a higher annual membership fee (which is cool they helped keep the site going, just like everyone else that has contributed). Anyone can contribute more than the regular membership fee, you just don't get the Gold flag to show off (I don't think any Gold member considers having a Gold flag showing off). I don't see why people get worked up over something as stupid as this. It's like you want to be recognized as having contributed more than anyone else (ie. Hey look at me, I'm a big timer!). Big deal. So, you can throw more money around than the next. Doesn't mean a dang thing.

I don't see why Al or Dot have to constantly defend the Gold Membership deal. Let it go. Enjoy the site. We don't need any status symbols here, we have enough egos to deal with as it is. I think it's nice to see this site uncluttered like many other forums that have a million sponser links cluttering up the website (see http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zeroforum?id=1 for comparison). Those tight arses can't even lay out a few bucks to keep from having a hundred sponsor links clutter the left side of the forum.

If I were Al, I'd just post "search, your answer will be found".

I would like to know what the Google junk is about at the bottom of the pages now days?? That sucks. (EDIT: I guess my membership expired :o . If I don't get a Gold Membership flag I'm not renewing ;) :p)

(I don't think any Gold member considers having a Gold flag showing off). I don't see why people get worked up over something as stupid as this. It's like you want to be recognized as having contributed more than anyone else (ie. Hey look at me, I'm a big timer!). Big deal. So, you can throw more money around than the next. Doesn't mean a dang thing.


It is not about showing off and to some of us it is not stupid either.
That is your opinion and I respect that but you need to respect our opinions and feelings as well.
It is also not about throwing money around.

What it is in MY opinion is there are Gold members and I as well as many others would like the opportunity to enjoy the perks and as was said before, is a way to generate more funds to make this site better.

I like this site and that is why I am a paying member, and as a paying member have the right to voice my thoughts, ideas, and opinions.
If not, I would not be here or would post for free.

I am good friends with a gold member and have no animosity towards him for being a gold member, in fact I have much respect and admiration for him as well as others.

When the gold was started and killed there may have been a few hundred members, we are now over 30,000 and like in business management needs to open their mind to change and innovation.




I am done on this subject.

It is not about showing off and to some of us it is not stupid either. (I think you owe us an apolgy for that remark)
That is your opinion and I respect that but you need to respect our opinions and feelings as well.
It is also not about throwing money around.

I'm not going to appologize. I don't think it's stupid that you'd like some perks, just that it's seems stupid to want to be marked with a Gold Flag. I don't see why a person needs a marker to show they have contributed more money than the next. Now, it would be cool if Al offer a name@chevelles.com address and other perks for an extra fee, but didn't change your flag. Maybe that is possible.

I like this site and that is why I am a paying member, and as a paying member have the right to voice my thoughts, ideas, and opinions.
If not, I would not be here or would post for free.

I think non-paying members have the right to opinions as well. I think Al would agree.

When the gold was started and killed there may have been a few hundred members

I'm sure there were more than a few hundred members. Gold members were in the right place at the right time. They scored the perks, I didn't. No biggie.

If you search WAY back, you'll find that Al was beside himself for even considering a membership option (Gold or otherwise). He didn't want to charge anything, but many people here threw out the idea to charge a membership fee to help defray the costs of site bandwidth and maintenance as well as software upgrades. If Al were well-off enough to finance the site on his own dime, I bet he would have without hesitation.

Alan

Alan, the google stuff isn't part of the site as far as i can tell (not appearing on my screen)... are you sure you don't have the Google toolbar software installed on your computer?

As for The Gold Issue- Here are my thoughts, as another long time member.
Gold was a special deal that Al put together at a time when he needed extra money for the site, thought it would be cool to do a limited run.

When they were used up they were used up. It makes for a little cool reminder that some members have been here for YEARS...

Other than that, I'm not sure why the big fuss. Being a Team member is already the premium membership. You get your flag- and know that you are helping the site...

I can't see any benifit to Al or the Site by making another level of membership available- if anything it would be more work for him to setup and manage it.

Paying members, or Non-paying members- who cares. We're all here for the cars and friends anyway, not for comparing Join dates, post counts, or membership types. (at least i'm not)

My $.02
Ben....

I actually remember back in 2000 when i first decided to pay to be a team member of this site and specifically DIDN'T check the box to get a Gold membership, as i didn't think I would renew or keep using the site for long... :clonk: Who would have known!

Looking forward to getting my 8 year magnet next year!

Their are quite a few members on this site that spend little to no time outside benchracing and current events, thats fine if thats what you want to do, but racking up a post count with generally meaningless posts should in no way earn one gold status.

Hey, now, just what are you trying to say, Jeff? :D ;) By the time I get home from work, you guys usually have the tech stuff answered for most guys, so I do my part to not waste bandwidth on the tech stuff that'll get archived. Besides, regarding the number of responses I get, nobody reads my stuff anyway. :D

FWIW, I checked TC one day 9 years ago, and it was an all new site. There was info there about memberships, and being in a giving mood, I bought one of the pricier ones, because I felt it was well worth it for the info I got out it. I also snagged a 2 digit gold member number, and team member number in the low 300's. :hurray: Just by chance and luck, I guess. Right place, right time. :yes: :p

Alan and Ben, the google ad stuff should only show up if you are not logged in.

I don't use any of the extra perks that come with the gold membership. I just decided to upgrade my membership when the slots were available. My only motive was to help pay back the site for all it has done for me. Period. No secret meeting, no special handshake. Just glad to be part of a site that runs smoothly with good people and good information.

If you want the gold, you could sign up on the camaro site, it all goes for a good cause. Different numbers and different sheetmetal, but all good information.

Rob

Nice car Jen.
Thanks.

Like other people said above me, the gold membership slots are sealed and done with and thats cool.
But i think it would be a good idea if people who donated money to the site got some star to their name, just as an idea. Im a member of the corvette forum, and for people who donate money to the site it says next to their sponsoring member or something.
And when people have alot of posts, the stars next to their name go up. To show a status of activeness and elderness on the forum.

Thanks.

Like other people said above me, the gold membership slots are sealed and done with and thats cool.
But i think it would be a good idea if people who donated money to the site got some star to their name, just as an idea. Im a member of the corvette forum, and for people who donate money to the site it says next to their sponsoring member or something.
And when people have alot of posts, the stars next to their name go up. To show a status of activeness and elderness on the forum.

We get flags, not stars. And notice that you are 'tech team' because of the number of posts you have on the site. more posts and you will eventually be 'senior tech team'

We have these things you've mentioned, they just look different than other forums.

changed my mind

Post count DON'T MEAN SQUAT.

Just a few examples:
The price is...
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Gosh Dean, 18,000 posts. You must've been here when my 66 was built.:D

awww its ok
I got a little offended, lol, but its okay, everbodys gotta learn sometimes.
Hope you feel better!

p.s- forget the gold status, ill settle for silver, even bronze haha

Well Jennifer I do apologize...

PS if you see my screen name...lol

awww thanks =]
apology accepted! hope you get well soon.

Na! Everybody knows it is more fun to be "Elite"!;)

How about a Gold Club Society?

We could have secret meetings and initiate Gold prospects. :D :p

Very secret society, you would be the only member. LOL

Probably. Because I am the only one cool enough to be in it. :D

Or just the only guy on this forum confessing to using make up on several occasions :p





I disagree, what about post whores?!?
Who post 50 posts a day sayinng yeah, hi, cool and etc?

I said on occasion. I was drunk and it was my first keg party. Just leave me alone. :sad:




:D

aww i see :D
story time!! ?!?

There isn't much of a story. I just stole the line from Scary Movie. :D

Thats dissappointing.. :(
i was expecting a story!!:sad:

Well I'm sorry.




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No I'm not. :D

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next time steal a better line!

Well this one time at band camp......
:D

That just sent a shiver up my spine and a knot in my stomach thinking of the rest of that line!:eek:

lame lame :p
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

I forgot the rest of that line! lol

Badges???????? We Don't Need No Stinkin Gold Badges!!!!!!!!!!!

Someday when I grow up, I want to be a goldmember. Then I can finaly change my name to Austin Powers!:boring:

All the post count really means is some of us have more time or choose to take more time to set behind a keyboard than others do, that's all.


Many many helpful post come from people with no flag.

Ok boys and girls, there comes time in life when you need to put something behind you, get over it, and move on.

I don't use any of the extra perks that come with the gold membership. I just decided to upgrade my membership when the slots were available. My only motive was to help pay back the site for all it has done for me. Period. No secret meeting, no special handshake. Just glad to be part of a site that runs smoothly with good people and good information.
Exactly Tom! :thumbsup:

Ok boys and girls, there comes time in life when you need to put something behind you, get over it, and move on.
Is this possible??? Lets hope so Dash.
Seems like this topic comes up for discussion every year or so.
As Jeff mentioned, y'all interested in this subject can do a search. It's all been digested before. :boring:

We get flags, not stars. And notice that you are 'tech team' because of the number of posts you have on the site. more posts and you will eventually be 'senior tech team'

We have these things you've mentioned, they just look different than other forums.

And when you pay for a membership, it changes to Team Member.....

Think of the gold memberships as founding fathers to a site that is now 30,000+. 201 gold members should be an elite group, since they unpuckered enough to send in some extra dough to shore up the site as it grew into what it is now.:hurray: I gladly renew my membership every year since the info here is well worth it.

Also, don't forget the people that reply to every welcome thread to shore thier number up too.... They do a good job, but posts alone should not be a factor.

So.. Platinum Member then.. Maybe Diamond... ehh...

It doesn't matter to me either way. I pay to be a team member because I wanted the window stickers and because the site doesn't pay for itself.

I would gladly pay a bit more for a perk, but I would also gladly pay the small amount and still receive the same benefit I always have. I've received help from Non-Members, Team Members, Moderators, Gold Members in all the same fashion. As long as I am getting the help I need when I post, or I can help someone in the same fashion, my status is irrelevant.

Big D

Big Block Member.. yeah... I like that one...

Gold membership was only given out to a few of the very first members.

I feel it should be an upgrade, but the powers that be have killed that idea.

I guess because we joined later in life we are undeserving of that title or stature.

This subject leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
And no I have nothing against our gold members, you were just luckier than us late bloomers.

So, instead we have to put up with sponsors that are not all that reputable.

Just my .02

There are a lot of decisions made by the people who run this club / site. Over the years I probably haven't agreed with everything. But one thing is true - they have grown this site to accomodate everyone - including you.

As far as the sponsors and their reputations - we all have the banner ads. Like TV commercials without them we couldn't be here unless we paid more fees.

It's sad to see the "sour grapes" because you feel it shoud be an upgrade, but some of us who are Gold Members feel pretty good to have been here as long as we have. History can't be changed so the facts are what they are. I became a gold member because I recieved so much help here that i wanted to pay more money to keep the site alive.

There were growing pains and I can remember discussions about rising costs and everyone here (only several hundred at the time) agreeing that we would pay whatever it took to keep this site together. Al and Dot have devoted their lives to this (uncountable hours) and they deserve to have our support when they make technical decisions regarding this site.

I will add that not being a Gold Member in no way diminishes your value to people here. Help who you can, and they will help you.

Hasn't this whine and cheese party gone on long enough? Don't like the rules - go elsewhere to play!:yes:

Hasn't this whine and cheese party gone on long enough? Don't like the rules - go elsewhere to play!:yes:

Everyone here is allowed to express their opinions - and I wouldn't work nearly as hard as you to chase someone away because of that. All members contribute to the life of this site, and all deserve respect.

Thanks for the feedback and discussion. I waited to reply as sometimes my response can kill a topic.

The ONE thing that was never intended was to create any sort of hard feelings, and therein has been the issue.

We never thought many would be interested so limited the Golds to 201 thinking that if we had that many, then the site could survive by helping to cover the monthly fees back then.

We initially allowed a vacated Gold to be filled by the next person who wanted it to keep the numnber at 201. This created some feedback when new members had Gold by their name and the original guys felt they were being sold out. Now, combine this with someone who was a Gold and left (for personal reasons) and then came back later and found their Gold now belonged to someone else. A few got upset and left the site. Certainly that was never intended, so we simply stopped re-issuing the Golds.

As it stands we are now down to less than half the original gold members. It's a touchy issue and the replies here trouble me. We are not trying to offend those who want to be Golds, but by the same token how do we not appear to be letting down the original Golds?

The one solution that might work is for the current Gold Members to become "Charter Gold Members" (special decals, status and flags) and then allow the Gold designation to become available. The Charter Golds would never be re-issued and remain unique - in many respects this might be the best solution for everyone.

Platinum has been suggested but that steps on the toes of the Golds who would feel bypassed and might introduce another level of confusion. We don't want to appear to be "selling out", yet it appears this needs to be addressed in some manner. The support from the membership has allowed this site to grow and those voices are important.


Jimmy. I apologize if you never received a thorough explanation from me. You are indeed entitled to that and I will work harder at answering more completely.

Thanks... Al

The one solution that might work is for the current Gold Members to become "Charter Gold Members" (special decals, status and flags) and then allow the Gold designation to become available. The Charter Golds would never be re-issued and remain unique - in many respects this might be the best solution for everyone.



Thanks... Al
Al, speaking as a Gold member, I like this idea. I dont feel special because I am a Gold member and can see the other side of the guys that would like to be a Gold member. As far as Charter members, a lot of long standing clubs have charter members and are never replaced when one drops out, (ACES for example). I think it is a good idea.
Will our dues go up?;)
Ron

No need to apologize Al. You keep doing better and improving and that's all that's expected in a growing organization. I'm sure you are surprised as all of us old time 'charter members' are, that this site and your work has gone this far. We would have never expected all of this back then.

I would think that by not offering different membership levels, you limit your membership funding and potential growth. Yes, it's big now, but I gotta tell ya, the demand is going to grow and grow.

Question: What do you envision for this site (and the other sites) 5 years from now?

Interactive features and better technology are inevitable. Look how much time we spend here compared to TV. This site has become a part of our lives. The more you offer, the people will be willing to pay for. That's a fact. Build it and they will come.

One of the reasons I like this place is because of the order it's kept in. It's fair, it's rules are simple and most of the time, equally handled. The GOLD membership issue needs to be addressed in my opinion. Here's my idea:

Offer a GOLD membership to anyone that has been a member for 5 years or longer that's a proven contributer to the site and in good standing. What-ever up-graded services you decide you can handle.

Offer a SILVER membership to anyone that's been a member for 1 year or longer, same requirements and services.

Most of all:Also, there have been some VERY helpful folks on here that deserve a pat on the back. They should be commended with a special dignifier. BillK is always available with SOLID advice as just one example. There are many more and we all know who they are. It would be great to show these guys some respect and appreciation in a simple way that would bear no costs.

Most of all:Also, there have been some VERY helpful folks on here that deserve a pat on the back. They should be commended with a special dignifier. BillK is always available with SOLID advice as just one example. There are many more and we all know who they are. It would be great to show these guys some respect and appreciation in a simple way that would bear no costs.


I think this would open a huge can of worms that would be very hard to get the cover back on. Sure we know of a number of folks on this site that are incredibly helpful and deserving, but then their will inevitably be those who feel they are also deserving and will get whiny when they don't get it. It's much like this thread, when a few people have something, others need to have it as well. Even if it is something that hasn't been offered in 7-8 years, some still feel the rules should be changed to suite them.

I do agree with you though Jimmy on the levels after a certain number of years deal. Although in my opinion it should be done as something that would clearly be lesser than a gold member. The gold members stepped up when they were needed and that should not be overshadowed. Make it a smallblock member and bigblock member or something like that, gold should remain exclusive to those that contributed the extra funds to help get this site to what we all enjoy today. If they hadn't perhaps we wouldn't be arguing about this today.

Jeff

Original members, Gold members? Site probably wouldn't be here today if not for them.I'm a newbie and I'm glad your all here to share your knowledge with me and all the rest of the current and future members.I've been a mechanic since 68 and I'm still learning info from you guys. (Just whish I was smart enough to chime in and help once in a while. Losing brain cells fast!) Great site Thanks

Sometimes you can learn MORE if you listen than speak .............just my personal thought.

Sometimes you can learn MORE if you listen than speak .............just my personal thought.

Geez Billy, for as much as you chat, I'd expect you to have more than 20 posts a year average. But your advice speaks volumes for yourself. :D :thumbsup:

Personally i'd like to see the membership levels left alone... left the way they are.

You want to help support the site, then you pay and become a team member with a flag.
Gold members will remain Gold, people will just have to realize that it was a limited time thing YEARS AGO, and thats the way it is.

I think that helps keep it special for those guys who gave the extra help all those years ago- and are still sticking around.

Having multiple paying member levels (beyond the limited gold, and the general "Team Members") lessens the benifits of being a paying member. I've been on sites that have 3 or 4 different member levels, and its annoying when reading peoples posts to see all that stuff.

One of the great things about this site is its simplicity on all levels- including the membership concept.

If it aint broke don't fix it :thumbsup:

I also think the gold member thing should be left alone.

And since this whole subject of Team Chevelle being brought up. Arent we 10 years old yet? I discovered this place in 1997. There needs to be some 10th aniversary logos made up.

I would prefer a stainless membership. Somehow I think it would wipe all my previous offenses clean, kind of like an expungement of your court records. :)

If anyone feels the desire to contribute more funds than just the cost of a regular membership, I'm sure Al wouldn't refuse the funds. If you value the site beyond the typical annual membership cost, are other incentives (upgraded membership status, etc.) really necessary to entice you to do so?

It comes down to the usual scenario. People want what they cannot have.

Stimulating growth is good as well. The new upgraded memberships will bring in income which could be used to buy upgraded hardware or pay for more bandwidth, add another server for load balancing, etc....

Personally i'd like to see the membership levels left alone... left the way they are.

You want to help support the site, then you pay and become a team member with a flag.
Gold members will remain Gold, people will just have to realize that it was a limited time thing YEARS AGO, and thats the way it is.

I think that helps keep it special for those guys who gave the extra help all those years ago- and are still sticking around.

Having multiple paying member levels (beyond the limited gold, and the general "Team Members") lessens the benifits of being a paying member. I've been on sites that have 3 or 4 different member levels, and its annoying when reading peoples posts to see all that stuff.

One of the great things about this site is its simplicity on all levels- including the membership concept.

If it aint broke don't fix it :thumbsup:

I agree 100% with Ben. Besides the knowledge and great people here, the simplicity also keeps me coming back every day.

Leave the Gold membership alone.

Al, for regular membership, is there any way to add options. Say, an e-mail addess (name@chevelles.com) for $5/yr., increased file storage size, etc.? Maybe stars can be added below your name to signify how many years you've been a paying member.

I still haven't figured out what people are looking for by having different membership levels. Other than to show they paid more than the regular member and they get to fly a different colored flag.

Unless there are added features with different member levels, I don't see why there needs to be a change from the current membership system.

All I know is I'm happy the things are.

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I still haven't figured out what people are looking for by having different membership levels. Other than to show they paid more than the regular member and they get to fly a different colored flag.
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Now that's what worrys me just a little bit.
Would different levels cause folks to think "Hey, I'm better than you" ?
:confused:

Now that's what worrys me just a little bit.
Would different levels cause folks to think "Hey, I'm better than you" ?
:confused:

That depends on the person. Dean - you're a Gold Member (number 3 at that) and I don't think there's anyone who could accuse you of thinking that way. Another might act as though they were better, but that person would act that way without a "different" membership level.

That depends on the person. Dean - you're a Gold Member (number 3 at that) and I don't think there's anyone who could accuse you of thinking that way. Another might act as though they were better, but that person would act that way without a "different" membership level.

And I guess a few have already (very few)

But hey my name is not in gold, is it? :(

And I guess a few have already (very few)

But hey my name is not in gold, is it? :(

You wear many hats my friend....

Now that's what worrys me just a little bit.
Would different levels cause folks to think "Hey, I'm better than you" ?
:confused:

I don't know, but I bet so. I've noticed several times in the past that paying members look down upon non-paying members. Particularly when non-paying members complain about certain features that are not available and such. I don't look at people based on how much money they throw out.

I've been around as long as most Gold members. I've paid six years, with my 7th now up for payment. I'm happy that this website is still around and I contributed. I don't look down on non-paying TCers that have been around the same amount of time and not paid any money. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Gold members are the same way.

I think anything that has different member levels, has people in higher levels that think they are better than the others. Take a look at those in upper ranks of frequent flyer programs, levels at a golf country club, etc. Heck, how about the people that fly first-class on a plane. I swear, they think they are GOD! Anytime you have different levels, there will be those who will flaunt it. It just happens. Not everyone is humble.

I think for the good of keeping everyone on a level playing field, one membership level is for the best (except keep the Gold around due to being "grandfathered"). Chevelle owners are simple and easy going (ask Tom Parsons (DZAUTO) his perspective between Chevelle owners and Corvette owners). Within the one level of membership, offer additional options that will bring in additional revenue. Al, may be bringing in enough money as it is to run this site. If not, I think he should let us nutty Chevelle owners help him out some more. And, if Al starts posting pictures of a 10,000 sq ft. house with attached 15,000 sq ft. shop, and a personal microbrewery with capacity for 30000 barrels of beer, we better start asking for our free BEER :D .

I guess that's about wraps up my thoughts on the subject.

I always just viewed the gold membership and an indication of those that were here at the start when there were much less than 1000 members and you could read ALL the forum posts in about half an hour. Al asked for financial support to upgrade the site, charter gold and the perks were the carrot for the first 201 that wanted it, regular memberships were available too. It was not intended or viewed to be a snobbish or elitest thing. I wouldn't have a problem if Al wanted to establish different levels, but it would be more of a headache for him and Dot and their decision if they want to take the time to keep track of all the levels.

I THINK...
that as a member, as you restore your chevelle, when it's done, and all the progress was posted here (to help others)
you earn gold .. for taking the time to post pic's and writing about the work, pit falls and all.
this way new chevelle owners that need to do a repair on there car or are starting a resto.. can searce through the work of others,,,
you post info of a resto from start to finish..
you get gold !!! for share'n the pic's and info.. tips etc..

anyone up for a poll

I THINK...
that as a member, as you restore your chevelle, when it's done, and all the progress was posted here (to help others)
you earn gold .. for taking the time to post pic's and writing about the work, pit falls and all.
this way new chevelle owners that need to do a repair on there car or are starting a resto.. can searce through the work of others,,,
you post info of a resto from start to finish..
you get gold !!! for share'n the pic's and info.. tips etc..

anyone up for a pollBeen there, done that.
You can have my Gold membership when you pry it from my cold dead........ Oh, nevermind, I was thinking of something else:D
Ron

You know, until this thread, I've never even noticed that some of the names were in gold.

I guess I just don't care enough about it to even give it a thought. Which I guess should be evident, because I don't even have "Tech Member" listed under my username, just some dashes...Those are reserved for the really lowlifes like me :D

Now that's what worrys me just a little bit.
Would different levels cause folks to think "Hey, I'm better than you" ?
:confused:

My opinion is yes it would. I honestly can not think of another reason why someone would fight so hard to get a gold membership that has very little for incentives behind it. I am not talking about the current members, they have theirs because they were here at the right time. Any new levels added would serve only to say "I am better than you".

Jeff

Black is for mods and admins. Paying members also have their name in bold letters as well as the flag. Way back when I spent an enormous amount of time here. There was talk of being able to support the site thru memberships and I thought it would be a great way to give something back. For some reason that I can not recall I missed being here the day the memberships started, by the time I logged back in I was able to be member 42, had I not missed that day it may have been a single digit number. That was missing only1 day with about 1000 folks registered at the time. Does it matter? not in the least, I am happy to be here, to learn and to teach and to lend a hand with keeping the peace. I do not think my status as a gold member or moderator makes me any better or smarter then anyone else here. Since we are a family there is going to be the desire to have all that our siblings have, lets not loose sight that our purpose was and still is to help all that come here looking for help, tips, ideas or information about Chevelles, possibly the most popular production car ever built.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPO/Goldmember~Austin-Powers-in-Goldmember-Posters.jpg

I'll just start at a RUST designation and work my way up!:D

Seriously though I belong to another site that does ranking based on how much you contribute and it does not seem in the least to affect how higher ranking members treat others. I feel that it allows one to show pride in the site by how much they are willing to donate and others seeing these guys rise in rank are encourage to contribute more also!:thumbsup:

I just decided to upgrade my membership when the slots were available. My only motive was to help pay back the site for all it has done for me. Period. No secret meeting, no special handshake. Just glad to be part of a site that runs smoothly with good people and good information.

Pretty much the same here. Just glad I can help contribute & keep it running.

And I guess a few have already (very few)

But hey my name is not in gold, is it? :(

I've been wondering if you should have the title "Moderator Emeritus" :D

Look I'm just happy too beable to read on the site & post. Plus all the help & great guys I've met on here. Who cares about Gold or alum or What ever. Get over it already. This isn't about status!! Its about us having the same interest. Have we got away from C H E V E L L E " S Thats what its about. Not my name in Gold & your ain't. Be DEAL grow up. Now lets get back to our cars please. Meeting Adjourn. ALL RISE !!! GOOD NIGHT:yes:

Sorry about the spelling . I got a little excited ha ha ha. But ya all get the drift

He's ummmm, older. As in combine our ages plus the bill of rights. Ricks name should be carved in stone tablets, let alone gold. Probably naptime. He went back to work for something to do after retirement.:D

I think things are fine the way they are. Changes will only cause more work for Al and Dot and the Mods. This reminds me of when one of my grandchildren did't make a sports team. Well, thats life. Not everyone gets everything they want. Me included. Edd

BRY: My name is carved in stone. " FLINTSTONE" ha ha ha ha ha ha ah

Glad I read this entire thread. I never knew what the Gold meant or the senior tech team , etc. meant.

As soon as I found this site and saw the kind of information and help offered, I paid the membership. It has been a wealth of knowledge, as you all have said in the thread. Everyone's experiences is what is important.

This site is well contructed with a lot of features. Easy to read through and search for anything you want to find........worth every penny of the membership.

Al, here is one person that is happy with what we have. And the monthly newsletter is an awesome addition.

Thanks, Mike

As the originator of this thread I have a few things to add after reading all of the posts regarding this issue. First I must say that this has been the best moderated site I've been a member of and whatever you folks decide to do regarding this issue I back you 100%. As far as post count not being a valid tool for determining who should possess the higher ranking memberships, I disagree. It is true that many posts have very little consistency and don't add to the site's knowledge-base, but it also needs to be addressed that the people who post the most are apparently on this site more than the rest of the other 30,000 members. This definitely shows dedication and interest to the site. Simple one or two word postings shouldn't always be misconstrued as being uninformative and worthless posts neither. Many of these "short" posts are quick answers to other's questions or comments. Many of these also fall into the category of horsing around, which should also be fine. Aren't we all just here to communicate with one another and pass a good time while learning a few things about our cars in the process? Lastly, I must comment on the posts regarding higher ranking members looking down on the lower ranking members. In my 39 years of experience on this earth I have realized that people are who they are regardless of anything else. I purely feel that the Gold status on this site is not a "better than everyone else here" moniker, but more of a reward for dedication to this site. In my opinion anyone who concurrently talks down to anyone else here should be temporarily barred from the site because we don't have time for this type of ignorant activity here. We all have a common goal here.....to build our cars and enjoy each others company. That's it.

Personally i'd like to see the membership levels left alone... left the way they are.

You want to help support the site, then you pay and become a team member with a flag.
Gold members will remain Gold, people will just have to realize that it was a limited time thing YEARS AGO, and thats the way it is.

I think that helps keep it special for those guys who gave the extra help all those years ago- and are still sticking around.

Having multiple paying member levels (beyond the limited gold, and the general "Team Members") lessens the benifits of being a paying member. I've been on sites that have 3 or 4 different member levels, and its annoying when reading peoples posts to see all that stuff.

One of the great things about this site is its simplicity on all levels- including the membership concept.

If it aint broke don't fix it :thumbsup:
I would have loved to be a gold member but I'm not. Didn't know this site existed back then. As for today I think Ben says it best. :beers:. If Al & Dot need more money to run the website, just say so and I am sure many more would be like me, glad to pitch in a little more for membership.Jb

Is it true that only the first few members get the gold status? I've been a good boy :yes:

Is it true that only the first few members get the gold status? I've been a good boy :yes:

No, all of the posts above are lies :D :D

It was said in a semi-joking manor, that's why I asked. I was truely interested in joining the elite club :D

It was said in a semi-joking manor, that's why I asked. I was truely interested in joining the elite club :D

I was semi-joking also. :D

BUT seriously, the Gold memberships are LONG GONE.

I'd be happy with a silver... or something :)

I have a gold membership I could sell you.:D



No I don't.:(

Well Jennifer I do apologize...http://formel1saison.de/php/ecards/grusskarte_sorry.jpg

PS if you see my screen name...lol

my brother has a pet hamster that looks exactly like him! He so cute...he named him "hammy" i say real original haha. we also had a german shepard named puppy haha :thumbsup:

:DJay, How much?

:DJay, How much?

They were all gone before Jay joined but even so they are not transferable as far as I know. :(

My day will come :yes:

My day will come :yes:

if you want I can give you a sticker and a pat on the back at CB. :D

:DJay, How much?

It won't cost u any money, I just want your El Camino.:D

Everything's negotiable :yes: