Looking for new Headers .... anyone know if Hooker SC 2118 1 3/4" or 2213 2" will fit with a Canton kick out pan ..kick out on pass side 2 3/4"

Anyone have either version of this size of Hooker SC's on thier 66-67 ??? any chance you could see how close they come to pass side of stock pan and is there room for a 2 3/4 kick out .....Hooker not alot of help

I know they dont work on a SB car....and i would venture to guess that the extra girth of a BB wouldnt help the situation. Cant say for sure though since ive never seen the BB ones. The SB ones have a tube that turns directly into the oilpan, and they're close even with a stock width pan. Sorry im not much help, but im sure someone here has done it or at least tried it.

CDN SS (name?), I put a set of Hooker comps (2in primary, 3.5in collector) in my 66 with a 502 and Moroso kicked out pan. I have plenty of room around the oil pan. I am running a short style oil filter that clears the pan perfectly and is pretty easy to get in and out. I had to dimple the headers for steering shaft, brake line, and brake junction block clearance. The drivers side collector did not point straight to the back either. It pointed down and out to door side. If you need me to, I may be able to measure my clearance. You might be able to see the fit on my web site.

Tom

Tom , Thanks for that info ...very dissapointed with tech guys at Hooker they were no help and said would not fit . I have since talked to Canton, the pan mfg. and when they built the pan they tried Hooker SC's and had no problem ....basically they tell me if the headers will fit with the old style large starter then no problem with kick out since it does not protrude any further than the stock starter !!! Filter side is no problem since kick out is alot smaller on that side . I will check out your web site for pic's and if need be will come back to you .thanks for the offer.
Although hard to justify the cost I should just go and get a set of Stahl headers they fit awesome on these cars

Bill

I'm gonna vote for a pair of Hooker #2455's (2" primary, 3.5" collector). I don't have a kick out pan - but there is plenty of room for one. On a '66 I would reccomend removing the steering shaft during installation - it will definitely make the job easier. I have the BB2 heads, more than a few people told me the raised exhaust port of the BB2 would require custom headers in my '65 - they went in like butter with only the #5 tube being dimpled ~ 1/2" where the steering shaft gets close. Your application should be an even easier fit.

Oh yeah, mine also pointed down a bit at the collector - easy fix: after bolting them in place just run a floor jack under the collector until they are pointed straight back.

Thomas

Bomber yes i'm starting to think a set of Hooker SC's will work .BTW the Hooker pn I have for 2" primaries and 3.5 collectors is 2213,.....2455??
Bill

Sorry CDN SS I had forgot to change my web site address the correct one is TW Web Page (http://home.comcast.net/~tkmhwood/)

Tom

2213 is the Super Comp, 2455 is the Competition. At ~ $150 the 2455 is a winner vs ~ $370 for the 2213. I can have the 2455's ceramic coated locally for ~ an additional $200 and still be ahead. The 2455 is a more generic fitting header, but except for the #5 dimple because of my raised exhaust ports, they practically dropped right in by themselves. The 2213's don't fit as well, but they do the equal length primary tubes a lot closer than the 2455 which has one primary tube on each side noticeably shorter than the others.

Thomas

Bill,

I'm running the Hooker 2455 with a Canton kick-out pan in my 71. No problem with clearance between the pan and the headers.

The only problem that I ran into was with the kick-out pan. I had to install a remote oil filter system because you could not change the oil filter without pulling the motor. graemlins/angry.gif
The same with the passangers side. To replace the starter I would have to pull the motor.

I tried to fit hookers on my 66 BB and they were tight all around and were going to need hammered on. They also hung very low. Lower than my Headmens. I left them on and even they hit the fram A arm mount in one place.

Hey guys excellent info ......Thanks, I really appreciate it

on my car with the Canton pan appears should be no problem to change starter and or filter .we will see !! .....I'm really looking for a set of decent competition headers and yes sometimes they fit tight I'm Ok with that but not to the point where they need a ton of bashing, I could modify my existing headers if it really comes down to that ....very dissapointed with the lack of knowledge from Hooker tech guy ...... going to call HedMan Husler tech in Atlanta and see what they have ...... if no luck may just break the bank and order a set from Stahl ......I know they fit and work...expensive and long wait to get them though.

Bill, the Hedman site says that the "Husler" line will not work with any type of kick-out, deep pans only. That's too bad, because I have heard from many sources that they fit well otherwise in a '66 BB application. Much cheaper than Hookers too. I'm not sure about their street line. I was going to use Hedmans on my Gen VI until I discovered this. I would still use them if I could find a pan without kick-outs that will accomodate a 4.25 stroke. Summit/Jegs etc list a Milodon pan that they say will work, but the Milodon site specifically states that this pan doesn't have the notches to clear the stroker crank. I understand that SC's can be a real bear to fit (ask kjett), but maybe I can use the regular comps.

Kirk I talked to hedman this AM and there Husler 65200 may work ........ my kick out pan does not stick out any further than the stock starter so if a header fits with stock starter then should work, only issue would be if some of the tubes bend under the starter ( like my old set) then they would hit the kick out ... I thought KJETT had Hooker SC's I think he has a straight deep sumppan and you say they still were an ugly fit :( I really hope the Hedmans work cause like you say they typically fit very well.

Bill, Ken told me that his SC's hit "everywhere." I don't recall if he said that they hit the pan though. I'll look at his email that I saved when I get home tonight and post it or forward it to you. He is using Canfield heads I believe, which have a 0.60" raised exh port, so this could be adding to the problems he encountered. I was wondering though, couldn't the Hedman tech tell you if that particular set he recommended had a tube that went under the starter? Seems like this isn't much more help than the Hooker tech gave you. Kirk

I will never run another kickout pan, not worth it to me. :(