Yeah, I know this is a stupid question, but I was watching the shootout and the guy stated he started the 4 speeds in 2nd, so I knew I needed more input on what to do to get a decent burnout going...

454, 4 speed in '69. Centerforce clutch. T/A Radials, 14".

What is best method to get good smoking burnout going?

Thanks,

Rev it up and pop the clutch. It's not going to be a John Force one, but you should get some smoke. If you are into doing them, why not get a line lock? Also, I think you can set the proportioning valve to way more front then back, and tap the breaks once the wheels break loose. But don't stand on them. Anyone remember the video of the Firebird?

dude with a 4 spd and a centerforce clutch behind a 454 you should be able to smoke em pretty easy!

Originally posted by troposcuba:
dude with a 4 spd and a centerforce clutch behind a 454 you should be able to smoke em pretty easy! ...I agree

Install a Line Loc and burn them off the wheel

what happened to the firebird?

I like to slap the pedal in 2nd gear at a 35 mph roll, the wife hates it when I do that :rolleyes:

I had been just popping clutch, in first, until I saw the TV guy stating that he started in 2nd on 4 speeds, which is what got me to wondering if I was missing something. Obviously in 2nd, the rear tires would be spinning faster, so I figured that'd give more of an "impression".....

3.31 posi on rear end by the way.

if you got the power, in which you should with a 454. I saw the muscle car shootout on tv, and I think he meant that he rolled it out in 1st, and powershifted to 2nd all in a burnout..he kept most of the rpms going in 2nd, so he could hold a burnout longer. Thats basically how i do it on the streets anyways.

I've always wanted to pull the stick hard into 2nd while standing still. Any huge parts breakage issue here?

Trouble with 1st is that you have to feather the throttle to stay off the rev chip. kinda sucks - and I can feel my rods not liking freewheeling up that high.

On the subject of burnouts if you have like TA's there is no way there going to hook.I could launch in 3rd gear with a muncie and 4.10 gears and do huge John Force burnouts. :D

Step 1, look around for cops. Once you got a car full of tire smoke, it's hard to deny. ;)

Originally posted by thunderstruck507:
what happened to the firebird? it was a video... he held the brakes down too hard after he popped the clutch and there was a helluva lot of smoke, but it was not tires doing the cooking ;)

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/mr4speed/70Burnout.jpg


..sorry,couldn't resist :D

Originally posted by 383Vette:
if you got the power, in which you should with a 454. I saw the muscle car shootout on tv, and I think he meant that he rolled it out in 1st, and powershifted to 2nd all in a burnout..he kept most of the rpms going in 2nd, so he could hold a burnout longer. Thats basically how i do it on the streets anyways. I might be wrong but that's not how it sounded to me. I thought he said he rev'd to like 3500 in 2nd then dumped the clutch.

tap the breaks once the wheels break loose Trouble with 1st is that you have to feather the throttle to stay off the rev chip Thats basically what I do... In FIRST gear, rev it slightly (maybe 3000-3500 RPM, minimizes parts breakage), pop the clutch, and immediately take my clutch foot and hit the brakes lightly (it takes practice, but is pretty easy, and my rear brakes might be a little loose too)...

I personally keep it in first gear, and I usually try to modulate the gas to sit about 3500-4000 RPMs... I also can modulate the brakes to allow the car to "roll" forward at a slow rate of speed (maybe 4-5 MPH)... Then as I near the end of the burnout (where ever I decided, and release the brake, floor the gas all the way, and then bang 2nd, bang 3rd...

I have actually burned rubber for over 350 feet like this (empty college parking lot)... Slowly turning the steering wheel side-to-side while rolling allowed the rearend to swing side to side, but at the slow speed, it was all totally controllable...

IMO, first gear is better, for safety and control

Finally; Your description is what I thought I remembered as well. I thought he said something to the effect of "(he) started all the 4 speed cars out in 2nd gear...", which is what prompted my question in the first place. I don't remember him powershifting to 2nd. But memory isn't perfect by any stretch!

But what Mr. 4 Speed is showing in the pic is sort of what I'm looking for!!!

Thats illegal.


But, if it should ever become legal.

1. You have a 454 stick shift with 14" T/As
Just give it the gas.

2. You should be able to start in 3rd. Hope you have a rev limiter or watch the tach. Keep it right around 5000 and just hold it.

Should turn those T/As into carbon.

Why not just dump the clutch in 2nd gear ??

You'll get better tire speed and the BBC should make more than enough TQ to break them loose in 2nd.

I'd avoid trying to shift while doing a burnout with a manual trans personally.

Originally posted by Flye:
But what Mr. 4 Speed is showing in the pic is sort of what I'm looking for!!! Yea but I believe Mr4Speed is running an auto. That pic is with water on the tires and brake torque/line loc maybe. Not knocking it, it's impressive. Just letting you know how he did it. The water helps a lot. You can start in 2 easy then just hold there.

Originally posted by Finally:
Yea but I believe Mr4Speed is running an auto. That pic is with water on the tires and brake torque/line loc maybe. Not knocking it, it's impressive. Just letting you know how he did it. The water helps a lot. You can start in 2 easy then just hold there. ..yes,my black cherry car is an auto..no line lock either.I drive around the water.You should see what happens to a pair of regular,raised white letter street radials...at 30 MPH :D
That pic I'm heating up a pair of DOT slicks.
With my stick cars,I always dump the clutch in 2nd,and yes,avoid doing a powershift while the tires are spinning

I'm not sure about either of the velles yet
but I know the 94 camaro smokes em in the first three gears without popping the clutch just letting it out and then mashing the gas
man is that fun but it would be nicer if it would hook up

i love john force type burnouts

Originally posted by mr 4 speed:
With my stick cars,I always dump the clutch in 2nd,and yes,avoid doing a powershift while the tires are spinning Well there you go. Straight from someone who knows how to do a great burnout!