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: Converting BHP to rear wheel Hp


wyatt
Oct 20th, 04, 6:44 PM
Is there a general rule of thumb for converting bhp to rwhp? This is for a '70 BB. Not sure yet what engine, because it's not built yet. May be close to a crate with 440hp and a TKO600. Thanks for the help!

jtm60
Oct 20th, 04, 6:47 PM
I thought that if you ran that in front of a TH400, that it would be approx. 20% loss through the drivetrain..and that a manual would only be about 15% loss..these are very rough figures and may be on the conservative side. Also, I had also read that a TH350 would suck up less power than a TH400..so maybe that would be more on par with a manual at the back wheels. Best way is to strap it down and run it!

Chevy454
Oct 20th, 04, 7:10 PM
I thought that if you ran that in front of a TH400, that it would be approx. 20% loss through the drivetrain..and that a manual would only be about 15% lossBetter to think in terms of *amount* of horsepower lost instead of *percentage* lost...a TH400 behind a 4-cylinder is gonna eat the same amount of power as it would behind a blown BBC. So it may be a 20% loss behind the 4-cylinder but only a 10% loss behind the blown BBC.

Anyway, I think the number is around 40hp +/- to turn a TH400...and a TH350, or a manual tranny, would be less. That, of course, is what they make light weight internals for... ;)

wyatt
Oct 20th, 04, 8:11 PM
Thank you both. That's the sort of ballpark figure I was looking for. Now if I can just estimate some ET's... smile.gif

Chevy454
Oct 20th, 04, 9:09 PM
Here are some good online calculators...the most accurate way to calculate HP is from MPH #s...

http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htm

camcojb
Oct 20th, 04, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Chevy454:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />I thought that if you ran that in front of a TH400, that it would be approx. 20% loss through the drivetrain..and that a manual would only be about 15% lossBetter to think in terms of *amount* of horsepower lost instead of *percentage* lost...a TH400 behind a 4-cylinder is gonna eat the same amount of power as it would behind a blown BBC. So it may be a 20% loss behind the 4-cylinder but only a 10% loss behind the blown BBC.

Anyway, I think the number is around 40hp +/- to turn a TH400...and a TH350, or a manual tranny, would be less. That, of course, is what they make light weight internals for... ;) </font>[/QUOTE]Doesn't work that way. It is a % because a blown big block will accelerate much harder than a 4 cylinder. So the frictional losses from turning the trans, rear gears, axles, etc. will be much higher. At a steady state there should be an equal loss between these two different engines, but not under full throttle.

Jody

Harold Sutton
Oct 21st, 04, 12:23 AM
The percentage thing will get you pretty close. The manual transmission will only loose about 13%, while the Turbo 400 will come in at about 20% and the Turbo 350 about 19%. None will be as low as 10%, ever. You can use the old Chrysler drag formula if you convert the MPH to reflect the changed method of measuring trap speed.(New speed times 1.0072 = old trap speed.) To Chevy 454, Your charts were interesting but i find only Patrick Hale's to closely approximate what my son's car actually runs, as the EPA new car sticker says, "your results may vary".