Well guys,

Mike (Wolfplace) finished my motor yesterday and the results are in:

685.7 crank hp @ 6500 rpm:D
611.7 ft/lbs @ 5100 rpm:D

Its amazing what this man can do!! I can hardly wait to get this bad boy back!!

parts that were changed or added are as follows:

Pro Systems 1100 Dominator (76 prim/85 sec with 4.5 prim pv)
Jesel Sportsman shaft rockers 1.7/1.7
Weiand Team G with 1" open spacer
New solid roller cam 256/262, .710/.710, 110 lsa
10-1 compression.

torque band is over 500 ft/lbs from 3600 to 6600 rpm.
timing at 38 degrees.
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Most of us would love to have one of Mikes bullets below the hood....I'm sure you will love it and you know the work was all first rate........:thumbsup:

WOW,Mike did a great job on your motor,great power/trq # for a normally asperated 496 bbc.

But that didnt surprise me at all,Mike is a very experienced engine builder that knows what he is doing.

I bet you cant wait to get that mill installed and see how it feels when you get into it hard,should be a wild ride for sure.

scott

Very nice!!!!!!!!:D:thumbsup::hurray:
Mike is the man:thumbsup:

Wow!:thumbsup:

I've been talking to Mike about roller lifters for my 396, and will be taking his advice.:yes: ( And the lifters of course, once I cough up the $$:D)

BB489
What kind of numbers did your motor in your signature make?

BB489, that is some great power. Good luck with it.

Thanks guys, we try ;)

Just to be clear this is the same engine that Patrick built originally, I just made a few changes to it that he wanted
Here is the dyno sheet
As you can see, a Dominator can be pretty clean on one of these "street" engines even at full throttle & lower RPM's
Check the BSFC & Lambda numbers
This is one of Pro Systems carbs & other than leaning it a few sizes it is as delivered,,,
Of course this will not tell you how it will run down the street or in traffic but it looks pretty fair & the idle lambda is about 14.5 :yes:

Patrick,
Here are a couple of Pics to tide you over :D

wow that is some nice stuff . that is one tuff engine . mine made about 70 more hp but i have much more compression and not much of a street engine . so that is one bad mother you got there. and lots of tq to dam thats gonna be fun. Mike I know im 38 but do you think you can adopt me.

wow that is some nice stuff . that is one tuff engine . mine made about 70 more hp but i have much more compression and not much of a street engine . so that is one bad mother you got there. and lots of tq to dam thats gonna be fun. Mike I know im 38 but do you think you can adopt me.
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Hell ya,, as long as you can take the pay cut :D :D
And you would fit right in being our daughter is a Deputy DA & her husband is a Sergeant for a department out here,, :)

I got your note about the head, I will fix it as soon as it arrives,,

Mike, can I ask a dumb question? When you set the dyno parameters why is the test stopped at 6600? Did you decide from the small drop that 6500 was the peak or did you first run it to 7000 and see that it fell off? I'm just asking because my experience with dynos was with a prehistoric one. We would guess where the motor should peak at and work from there.

I coulda sworn I replied to this post yesterday, asking if ya wanna race? ;) That jetting sure seems small for a 1100 Dominator. I'm at 82/91 (no rear pv) with my 1000hp and they come 84 square.

I coulda sworn I replied to this post yesterday, asking if ya wanna race? ;) That jetting sure seems small for a 1100 Dominator. I'm at 82/91 (no rear pv) with my 1000hp and they come 84 square.

Bob that was in this thread. http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186590&page=2

Dominator has 3 circuits. Just a guess?

I'm gettin old man...sheesh.

BB489 .......Congrats great numbers for that combo, RR heads and a .700 lift cam impressed did not think RR heads could use that much lift t .......interesting you using new Isky cam .......something Mike spec'd or you did ? Custom grind or off shelf.

BB489 .......Congrats great numbers for that combo, RR heads and a .700 lift cam impressed did not think RR heads could use that much lift t .......interesting you using new Isky cam .......something Mike spec'd or you did ? Custom grind or off shelf.
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It is a custom Comp grind :)
And the lift stated is net at the valve with checking springs,,,

I coulda sworn I replied to this post yesterday, asking if ya wanna race? ;) That jetting sure seems small for a 1100 Dominator. I'm at 82/91 (no rear pv) with my 1000hp and they come 84 square.
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Bob,
This is not a 4150 on a dual plane,,, ;)
Completely different animal.
And different engines like different jetting
I do not jet for a specific AFR I jet for power but I normally see very hi 12's to mid 13's as being best.
And I like to see the BSFC numbers reasonably stable from bottom to top, tells me the curve is decent.
Also, notice the weather,,,,

Mike, can I ask a dumb question? When you set the dyno parameters why is the test stopped at 6600? Did you decide from the small drop that 6500 was the peak or did you first run it to 7000 and see that it fell off? I'm just asking because my experience with dynos was with a prehistoric one. We would guess where the motor should peak at and work from there.
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Not dumb & yes to both questions but don't tell Patrick,,, :D
Unless it is a race deal I don't normally run the engine much past peak power once I know where this is & that it does not go nuts above here.
Just jet it for best power & call it a day in most cases
If it were a race engine I would take it well past peak to see how bad it dies & if changing something would help without sacrificing the curve at lower RPM's
Most of the time things you do to carry the peak power number up high tend to hurt the lower torque numbers which is not what you would normally want for a street /strip deal.

And once power starts falling you know it is going to keep going down it is just a matter of how bad,,,

Nice job Mike...

Hey Patrick,

Nice numbers there, great to see the progress. I hope she roars in that camaro of yours.

Aw, get that weak sauce outa here! You will barely be able to climb the car over the Sunday newspaper.

Ha!

Kiding aside, great results. I don't remember the whole combo. But trust me, in your Camaro...as long as you have an excellent fuel and exhaust system.....you will be stunned at the performance. On street rubber, you will literally have to be careful.

I've had a blast with mine. And the numbers speak for themselves.
The thing that constantly amazes me is the power that can be made with street engines on pump gas these days. Astounding.

Nice work as always Mike. I don't suppose you dynoed it as delivered?

I'm going to tear mine down this year after 3 seasons and see how it all looks. You know I got those danger zones in there.......and that crappy Comp polymer dist gear.

I'll look into the shaft setup and some new springs. Maybe even new pistons and pins now that I'm hooked on the crack...er.... I mean nitrous.

Patric, do let us know how the car runs when you get it back together. You Florida guys have weather to play a lot longer than the rest of us.

And Bob....we are already old!

Ron

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It is a custom Comp grind :)

Not dumb & yes to both questions but don't tell Patrick,,, :D
Unless it is a race deal I don't normally run the engine much past peak power once I know where this is & that it does not go nuts above here.
Just jet it for best power & call it a day in most cases
If it were a race engine I would take it well past peak to see how bad it dies & if changing something would help without sacrificing the curve at lower RPM's
Most of the time things you do to carry the peak power number up high tend to hurt the lower torque numbers which is not what you would normally want for a street /strip deal.

And once power starts falling you know it is going to keep going down it is just a matter of how bad,,,

Comp really seems to have some great lobe profiles. Is it a street roller profile or something different Mike?

We did the same on the dyno with mine. Found the power peak, and didn't run it past 6400 after that. We couldn't measure AF ratio cause the LM-1 took a dump. So we jetted for power. Mine is a quick fuel dominator. Ended very similar in jetting. Once at the track, the car responded to 2 sizes richer front and back.....right where is was delivered.

One thing I'll say, even with a 6250 peak, at the track the thing will hit 7000 in a heart beat. But runs best when shifted below power peak 1-2 and above it 2-3.

Patrick has Race Rites? I can't remember.....

Ron

Yes, I have the Rect port Race Rites (294 cc). Before Mike got my motor I chassis dynoed it at a best of 430 RWHP. Was running rich as well. Mike found that my pushrods looked too short and that my block was not zero decked like the machine shop who did it was supposed to. You would have to ask Mike for any other things that he found wrong or not optimal. After I get my motor back I need to look for a new converter. I want one that will work well on the street as this is where my car will spend 99% of its time. I have a Coan 3200 in there now, but by looking at my dyno sheet I am not sure if this is adequate. I was also told that it was damaged when a while back a converter bolt came out and put a dent in it-transmission guys said that they found fine metal grit in the tranny pan. Maybe I can have it rebuilt?
It will probably be a while before I get my motor back, but i will definately post results when I get her back together.

Patrick, your updates sound real nice. That thing in your light weight Camaro will be a handfull! :yes: :yes: :yes:

Keep us all posted when you get that beast running. I'm curious on how well that Dominator is going to run on the street.

Also, you better update your signature. :D

Comp really seems to have some great lobe profiles. Is it a street roller profile or something different Mike?

We did the same on the dyno with mine. Found the power peak, and didn't run it past 6400 after that. We couldn't measure AF ratio cause the LM-1 took a dump. So we jetted for power. Mine is a quick fuel dominator. Ended very similar in jetting. Once at the track, the car responded to 2 sizes richer front and back.....right where is was delivered.

One thing I'll say, even with a 6250 peak, at the track the thing will hit 7000 in a heart beat. But runs best when shifted below power peak 1-2 and above it 2-3.

Patrick has Race Rites? I can't remember.....

Ron
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Sorry Ron I missed this :pout:

No, they are not "street lobes"
The intake is pretty aggresive & the exhaust is a bit "softer" on closing.

Nice numbers.

Would like to see it on a chassis dyno though, numbers can be fudged as Mike has pointed out to me.:yes:

Not doubting anyone, just reiterating what has been said before.

I always thought chassis dyno numbers can be fudged as well?