Hi all,
I bought an interior kit for my 68 Chevelle that included seat covers door panals headliner etc.. any how the seat covers were made by PUI and dont even come close to fitting. My upholstery guy said the covers are like 3" to short to fitting the seats. My car has the bench seat in the front and he thought either the seat covers were labled wrong or mabey I had the incorrect seats in the car. I could see mabey it's possible someone swaped out the front seat sometime in the cars past, but nothing fits not evn the rear seat covers.

Can somebody measure your factory bench seat and rear seats so I can compare it to mine? I dont have mine here today but he is coming to do the headliner in the morning so I could compare then.

Anyone else have any ideas? Bad covers? wrong seats? Help

Thanks in advance,
Nick

PUI part number should be 68AS??B for bench...68AS??C for coupe rear seat...you might double check those numbers...68 covers should have a series of simple plain vertical pleats with 3 buttons...I do not see how it could a problem with your bench or back seat it must be the covers...I suppose you could have like a 64 El Camino bench and vert rear seats but that is highly unlikely...

The part #'s are 68AS10C & 68AS10B. They do have the 3 pleats but just dont fit. I guess I willl call Big Tonys tomorrow and see if they will send out another set. This is frustrating as I waited for a month to get the upholstrey guy to finally start on them. the car is freshly painted and ready to drive once i get some seats in it.

Thanks ,
Nick

I used PUI to do my rear seat recently and it was a tight fit. I can take any measurements of my front seat you need. Then you can double check to make sure your seat is correct.

Should have bought them from someone who has been around longer. Good Luck

I'd be willing to bet those covers fit...tell me about this upholstery guy you are using if you please...

I used PUI to do my rear seat recently and it was a tight fit. I can take any measurements of my front seat you need. Then you can double check to make sure your seat is correct.


Thanks, He called me to come over and look this afternoon at the problem. He showed me the bottom part of the rear seat he had it streched over most of the padded area but it was way to short to go over the metal frame part in the front lower corners. We then held up the top half of the rear seat and cover looked like it was aprox 3" to short. Pretty much the same with the front seat. he hadnt taken the old covers off the front seat yet but it looks like there is no way it will fit. he kept telling me mabey I had the wrong seats for the car and mabey they were out of a 70-72 Monte carlo. I told him I didnt know they were in the car when I bought it as a project and it had been off the road for at least 15 years. The car was a basket case when I bought it so mabey some one can tell me if this is a 68 Chevelle seat. This is the only picture I have of the front seat in the car the day I picked up.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/68chevelle6.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/68chevelle2.jpg
Here is where I am at with the car now, I have most everything done except for the seats and headliner.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/HPIM0914.jpg

Thanks again for the help
Nick

I'd be willing to bet those covers fit...tell me about this upholstery guy you are using if you please...


I dont really know what to say, It's a small family run business he has done 2 cars for me in the past my 69 SS Camaro & my 66 Mustang GT, both times I bought the original style seat covers and buns and he just put them together with no problems. Is there something I am overlooking here?

Thanks Again,
Nick

That looks like a '68 bench seat to me, the back release is in the right place and they don't have headrests (like a '69 would), and the pattern looks like a '68 Malibu.
BillL

Looks like the same pattern from my grecian green 68 bench seat car.

I went back this morning and had the upholstery guy try again on the rear seat and just told him I heard they were tight fitting. Well just to shut me up he went ahead and reinstalled the rear lower cover. There is no way these things can be right. look at these pics he said they would rip the first time anyone sat in them.
What do you all think??

Thanks Again,
Nick

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/HPIM0979.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/HPIM0980.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/HPIM0981.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/HPIM0982.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/HPIM0983.jpg

Looks right to me, that's how tight my PUI covers fit my seat. I even had to paint that white piping around the side black in sone places. But if you think they are wrong I can measure mine (back seat) and get back to you. Now, what I would do is call PUI directly (502) 425-3766 or send them your pictures to this email address sales@pui.cc and ask them to call you about fitment. I had issues with a 68 headliner (6 bow in a 5 bow box) and they found they had a packaging problem, sent me another right away, no questions asked.

red68chevL

Thanks for the info. Richard at Big tonys was going to call PUI and see what they had to say. I got anxious and called the # you posted and spoke with Todd at PUI. I emailed him pics but havent heard back yet. This is so frustrating as this car has been 90% done, licensed & insured for a month and it just sits because I have no seats. It would be nice to be able to get out and enjoy the car and all the hard work I have put into this thing before the weather turns to crap. I guess there is always a mike crate.LOL...

when i got mine done they fit and i sit on them and they are as tight as yours they will break in eventually just sit on them a couple of times mine looked exactly like yours heres pics of mine

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/Chevelle300fan/DSCN1582.jpg

1968Chevelle300Deluxe,


Thanks. My upholsery guy wont even touch them, he says they will just rip before he can get them hog ringing on. Do you have a picture of the rear seat bottom in the corners that I can compare mine to?

Thanks again,
Nick

i dont have the rear seat bottoms cause my chevelle is in the paint shop right now but i do have these that i took when i just got them they are shiny cause i put a crap load of armorall on them

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/Chevelle300fan/DSCN1246.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/Chevelle300fan/DSCN1244.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/Chevelle300fan/DSCN1243.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/Chevelle300fan/DSCN1245.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/Chevelle300fan/DSCN1247.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/Chevelle300fan/DSCN1248.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/Chevelle300fan/DSCN1249.jpg

Hope you have luck with yours Nick,
Ryan

1968Chevelle300Deluxe,

Your looks really nice and also looks like the rear fits much better than mine. I guess i am at a stand stilll untill I hear back from Big Tonys or PUI. I would just order from somewhere else but I dont know who to call. I tried NPD but they said they carried PUI as well. Any other brands out here that I dont know about that might fit better. I am tempted to just have the Upholstery guy just make something from scratch but I want the factory stock look.

Thanks again for all the help
Nick

Nick I just did some rough measurements of a 70 model backseat frame and cover that I have in the shop...seat frame bottom of the back seat section top springs is about 51" wide side to side...the bottom of the seat frame is a bit wider...the cover laying out flat is roughly 50"...on the boxing section (that is not the piece you set on which is the insert but rather the piece that wraps around on the sides and has the listing which you hog ring to the frame) you will see a seam exactly in the middle...it should be about 6"...if that is what you have those covers should go...and heck yeah they are tight fitting son of a bucks...they're supposed to be...hope this helps...
With all that being said I have had to alter covers before to make them fit but only once or twice in years...and only maybe once have I seen them miss the boat completely...usually the only time something mysterious like that happens is when you go to put a convertible top on a car that was a rebuilder and they used a vert frame from a different year so the top will look like it is right but it won't fit...happens on fox era stangs sometimes...

,
I would just order from somewhere else but I dont know who to call. Any other brands out here that I dont know about that might fit better.Thanks again for all the help
Nick

http://www.legendaryautointeriors.com/
Talk to Eric, he posts here under screen name of lail1985, his email is
edetaeye@legendaryautointeriors.com
BillL

Nick I just did some rough measurements of a 70 model backseat frame and cover that I have in the shop...seat frame bottom of the back seat section top springs is about 51" wide side to side...the bottom of the seat frame is a bit wider...the cover laying out flat is roughly 50"...on the boxing section (that is not the piece you set on which is the insert but rather the piece that wraps around on the sides and has the listing which you hog ring to the frame) you will see a seam exactly in the middle...it should be about 6"...if that is what you have those covers should go...and heck yeah they are tight fitting son of a bucks...they're supposed to be...hope this helps...
With all that being said I have had to alter covers before to make them fit but only once or twice in years...and only maybe once have I seen them miss the boat completely...usually the only time something mysterious like that happens is when you go to put a convertible top on a car that was a rebuilder and they used a vert frame from a different year so the top will look like it is right but it won't fit...happens on fox era stangs sometimes...

70 Gold Nugget

Mine is measuring about 56 1/2" across the top of the seat frame but I must not be measuring the spot you are. But that seam in the middle that said is 6" on my cove it is only 4 1/2". That would take care of one of the problems i have but the worst is still how the lower part of the frame streches the cover out so bad when you finally force it on. This is what scares me the most on the praticular 1/2 of the back seat. It looks like at any time the cover will just tear.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/HPIM0983.jpg

Thanks Again,
Nick

I measured a bare metal frame at 51 on the top springs...I suppose the 70 frame could be different but that doesn't seem right to me...looking again at the pic you just posted something is definately not right......how do those seat frame fit in the rear of the car??? are they real tight without the covers on even???
Wish I was close we could throw these 70 model back seat frames side by side with your's and tell real darn quick...I know where a Monte car is but I won't be able to go measure it until the weekend probably but I am dang sure going to just to seat if there is a difference in width...I know the dash of a Monte 70 will fit a 70 Velle...I'll try to make a few calls tommorrow to one of my chevelle buddies and see if I can find out more...

70 Gold Nugget

Thanks. I dont think the seat fits to tight in the car it seams normal. I am still thinking the cover was just made wrong, mabey it was friday afternoon and the guy was thinking about his weekend when he made it. I dont know??

Hopefully I will hear from Big Tonys or PUI tomorrow. The thing that really sucks is even if they do send me another set I still wont get them till the middle of next week and then its another waiting game with the upholstery shop. Oh well enough winning.

Again thanks to everyone for your help with this,
Nick

Nick,

The 70-72 back seats are a different width. My back seat measures 56 1/2" across the front at the corners. The material from the piping down to the white material is 7 1/2" at the corners and 5" at the center seam. I can try to post a pic if this isn't good enough. Good luck with PUI.

Scott,
Thanks, My material at the corners is 6 1/2" and 4 1/2 at the seam. In therory, if the cover was an inch give or take short going around the botton of the frame horizonally that might be why they are streched so bad on the bottom. So far every measurment I have compared with others, mine have been short a little. I think these covers are just wrong.

Thanks Again,
Nick

Those covers must be patterned wrong...I guess the pattern people at PUI were definately thinking about friday night fun instead of making the correct sized pieces for the sewing folks...PUI needs to trade you out for a new set of covers in which the pattern pieces are the correct size...this is sort of odd that those pattern pieces would be that far off...who knows maybe they were training a new pattern person that day which means that yours probably aren't the only ones that are screwed up...personally I've not really seen this before like I said above...it is sort of weird...it is more likely for the sewing people to put an insert in that is not perfectly square or for them to not have the tension and/or the stitch on their machine right thereby making a funky weak seam...

I sure do hope the Legendary rep weighs in on this topic I would like to see what he says...

Daytona,

First, my great appreciation in rescuing that '68 from the junk pile. It looks just like mine.

I think I am going to attempt to sew my own covers, as the originals have some tears in seams, but in overall good condition. I have tried to sew up the tears, but it's just a temporary fix.

It will be a winter project, sewing machine and time.

Nick,

Scott is correct. The '68/'69 rear seats are a wider width than the '70 - '72 seats. I have been down this road before. It's due to the difference in the side panels and armrests. It sounds like PUI may have mismarked the packaging and sent you the '70s cover rather than the '68. Depending on how you measure, the '68 is about 3-4" wider than the '70s. I believe the height is about the same.

If your still dissatisfied I have seen threads here where many guys state Legendary has much better quality and fit. I don't know this first hand but you might try some searches to see what others have said.

Bruce

I'd be willing to bet those covers fit...tell me about this upholstery guy you are using if you please...


It's not the installer,I have had the same trouble with PUI seat cover's for the past 10 year's.That is why I will not order them anymore,if I order them it is from Legendary,and if the customer want's to order them then I suggest Legendary.I had to remake a set of PUI cover's last week,I had to add 4" to the rear cover's and a 1 1/2'' to the front's on each side of the insert's. BUT I have installed a few set's of PUI cover's that fit great,and I am only talking like 5 set's in 10 year's.And depending on who you buy them from,they will not let you return them if you have tried to install them.Why do you think PUI's cover's are so cheap,you get what you pay for.

Looks right to me, that's how tight my PUI covers fit my seat. I even had to paint that white piping around the side black in sone places. But if you think they are wrong I can measure mine (back seat) and get back to you. Now, what I would do is call PUI directly (502) 425-3766 or send them your pictures to this email address sales@pui.cc and ask them to call you about fitment. I had issues with a 68 headliner (6 bow in a 5 bow box) and they found they had a packaging problem, sent me another right away, no questions asked.


Scott,
Could you measure the distance from the top of the ribon to the bottom of the corners on the front band, since your are installed? I am tring to figure out if mine is just short or what.

Todd from PUI called me back this morning he seems like a nice guy but just keep saying they were computer cut and mine are the right size. He also said he would check his against the pattern and get back to me but it didnt sound like there was anything they could do.

Thanks Again to all for your help,
Nick

Daytona,

First, my great appreciation in rescuing that '68 from the junk pile. It looks just like mine.

I think I am going to attempt to sew my own covers, as the originals have some tears in seams, but in overall good condition. I have tried to sew up the tears, but it's just a temporary fix.

It will be a winter project, sewing machine and time.

Thanks, but here lately I am wishing I would have just walked right on by this one. LOL.. No just kidding it's been a fun project.

Nick,
Here are the images I think you were looking for by your description. I was having a little trouble understanding. Now, if PUI is hiding behind "computer cut" I would send them back today. No use in messing with a company that will not even take a second look. :sad: DAMN that irritates me! We are the ones keeping them in business and they seem to not even care. Sounds like legendary make better ones anyway.

Now, I must take a minute to praise you for ressurecting a '68 Malibu. I love 'em, and you have done an excellent job. (I'm also partial to the color!) Also, take a step back and admire what you've accomplished. You are 90% finished, the last 10% takes the longest amount of time to complete. The 1st ride will make all of the problems melt away.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z143/warrenscott1968/DSC00174.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z143/warrenscott1968/DSC00173.jpg

Nick,
Here are the images I think you were looking for by your description. I was having a little trouble understanding. Now, if PUI is hiding behind "computer cut" I would send them back today. No use in messing with a company that will not even take a second look. :sad: DAMN that irritates me! We are the ones keeping them in business and they seem to not even care. Sounds like legendary make better ones anyway.

Now, I must take a minute to praise you for ressurecting a '68 Malibu. I love 'em, and you have done an excellent job. (I'm also partial to the color!) Also, take a step back and admire what you've accomplished. You are 90% finished, the last 10% takes the longest amount of time to complete. The 1st ride will make all of the problems melt away.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z143/warrenscott1968/DSC00174.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z143/warrenscott1968/DSC00173.jpg



Scott,

Thank you that is exactly the pictures I needed. I have the cover loose again and went out real and snapped another pic I had the tape measure a little low but mine measures 6 1/2 "'s. When i talked to Todd at PUI this morning he just wanted to say the covers he had there at his place were the same as mine. My Upholstery guy was here working on the head liner and I even put him on the phone to talk to him. I heard him tell Todd at PUI at least 7 or 8 times the band of the shkirt part of the cover is just too small.

You picture confirms this. I dont think PUI wants to do anything for me so I may just have myUpholstery gut just unstitch them and replace the band are with a peice of vinyle that will actually fit.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o70/x77d80/HPIM0985.jpg

Thanks for the kind words about my project. My wife allways said I was a sucker for a Project.

order yours from year one dude

order yours from year one dude

Still PUI cover's repackaged.

Yep!!!

Call ole Todd back get his email and send those pics to the son of a buck...now we should all make it our mission to expose this crap...those dang covers are not cheap and these people just don't give a damn...:(

Yep!!!

Call ole Todd back get his email and send those pics to the son of a buck...now we should all make it our mission to expose this crap...those dang covers are not cheap and these people just don't give a damn...:(

It don't do any good,every upholstery shop around here has done that and still no good. And if you look at the labels on some of them they are made in Mexico,China.Some of them are made in USA.

Yep!!!

Call ole Todd back get his email and send those pics to the son of a buck...now we should all make it our mission to expose this crap...those dang covers are not cheap and these people just don't give a damn...:(



Jeff,
I just sent him this email
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Hi Todd,
I really appreciate you taking the time to call me back this morning in reference to the seat covers that don't fit. As I mentioned I don't know much of anything about upholstery and that is why I had Steve from Montoya's upholstery doing the seats and headliner.

As I mentioned when we spoke I had been asking questions on Team Chevelle as I just know who else to ask. There have been several very helpful people on there that helped confirm that I do infact have the correct seats in the car and just tonight someone posted some pictures that confirmed these covers are shorter than others.

In the pic with the red showing in the jam was someone's else seat and the other pics is mine.

Also here is the tread that shows the questions asked and the answers I was given.
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193648

Again I just want to say that I don't mean to cause trouble or be a pain I just want to get my seats done so I can finally drive this car before the snow flies.

Thanks you again for your time,
Nick

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I will just have to wait and see what he says. In the meantime I needed to order a new set of headliner bows as I didnt realize the car was missing one. I just want to get this going and enjoy while the weather is still warm.

Again, Thank you to everyone on the is board you all have been a great help with this.
Nick

At this point I wouldnt even bother waisting my time anymore with them. Send them back.

.... In the meantime I needed to order a new set of headliner bows as I didnt realize the car was missing one. I just want to get this going and enjoy while the weather is still warm.

Again, Thank you to everyone on the is board you all have been a great help with this.
Nick

Nick,

Not to open a new can of worms but there are two headliners styles for 68, a 6 bow and a 5 bow. I believe 5 bow is for the early cars, 6 for late. You just have to order the correct style! Anyway, you may not need new headliner bows, just letting you know!!!!

Scott,


Thanks but My car only had 4 bows and was missing the last one to the rear of the car. I feel like a dummy as I never even checked to see if they were all there before I had the guy come to install the headliner. I orderd a set fom NPD but looks like they wont be delievered untill Monday afternoon OCT. 1st.

I still havent heard anything back from PUI. I am starting to feel like they just dont care. I really hoped to drive this car to a show on OCT. 06 but it's not looking good at this point.

Thanks Again,
Nick

Scott,


Thanks but My car only had 4 bows and was missing the last one to the rear of the car. I feel like a dummy as I never even checked to see if they were all there before I had the guy come to install the headliner. I orderd a set fom NPD but looks like they wont be delievered untill Monday afternoon OCT. 1st.

I still havent heard anything back from PUI. I am starting to feel like they just dont care. I really hoped to drive this car to a show on OCT. 06 but it's not looking good at this point.

Thanks Again,
Nick


And you probably wont here from them.And your right they don't care.

Got an update Nick?

Got an update Nick?


Not really, None of the seat covers fit. My Upholstery guy is going to unstitch the seat covers and resew them with new material the corect size. As for PUI, I havn't heard another word from them. You guys were right when you all said they dont care. I am not happy at all with the way this whole situation was handled by Big Tonys or PUI and I will not do business with either of them again.

Now on a more positive note, the new headliner bows were delievered today and my upholstery guy is supposed to come tomorrow morning & install the headliner.

http://www.itsawarzone.com/Chevelle/images/pui.png

Plain as day...

http://www.itsawarzone.com/Chevelle/images/pui.png

Plain as day...



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