Has anyone out there run the new CPP, www.classicperform.com (http://www.classicperform.com) , upper/lower control arms yet? I have been doing a lot of research, surfing the net for bargains and info, and I honest can't find a better looking or more affordable set-up. Having never seen anything but pictures of them I can not confirm for sure, but they look and sound to be at least equal quality to the global west arms.

--Oh, I am going for a mean ass driver! I am running a hot 585hp 383 with a pro touring look and feel. Basically a old car that rides and drivers like a Z06. I never plan on road racing the car, just darting through traffic from light to light (looking for victims) and it will make it's way to the strip every so often.

Any help or opinions welcomed and appreciated!!!

Thanks,

Gunnar

Not absolutely positive aboout this.
But I think the CPP arms are from Airride Tech.

I have these on my 59--------tubular uppers----needed 'em for exhaust clearance, as the 59 was not designed to accept a 454:D.

My #1 exhaust would touch the stock upper arm, even with Sanderson's block hugging cast iron headers.

I have the lower arms...they are fine, no issues at all with them..

Get the SC&C SPC upper arms, they are super trick and will make it handle better than the the CPP if you get the Howe ball joints. That's what I'm gonna be using.

Handling in terms of lateral grip WILL NOT be improved from A-arms alone.

If you want the front to not understeer like a pig, you need to address the spindle height with either a taller spindle (AFX or Heidts) or extended balljoints (Howe Precision)

CPP's uppers will not work with taller spindles as the balljoint mounting surface would be at a dramatic angle near its travel limit, even at static height.

What's ya'll opinion on BMR's control arm and suspension packages? www.bmrfabrication.com (http://www.bmrfabrication.com) These packages look better? They support the atx tall spindles. What about there prices? They seem to be better than the other places I have looked for performane full packages. I really want to find a kit that has everything matched to work together at a fair price.

Thanks,

Gunnar

What's ya'll opinion on BMR's control arm and suspension packages? www.bmrfabrication.com (http://www.bmrfabrication.com) These packages look better?

ya, they may 'look' better, but not perform any better.

ya, they may 'look' better, but not perform any better....not entirely true...

If you use a "tall" spindle (avoid F and B-body spindles, as they increase bumpsteer, slow turning ratio, widen turning radius, and screw up the Ackermann) their uppers are better, as they mount the balljoint at the correct angle.

If you use "stock" spindles, they will perform worse, as polyurethane will deflect more, have more resistance, and eventually have egg-shaped holes due to cold-flow properties of poly, compared to CPPs much superior bushings, which are a type of plastic similar to delrin.

...but I'd recommend www.scandc.com over either of the above. If you can't wait for SC&C's new lowers which should be out soon, go with the CPP lowers (or reinforce the stock ones).

The arms from www.scandc.com (http://www.scandc.com/) really look good but I'm just kind of hesitate of them because they are adjustable. How would/why would you adjust them? I have adjustable rear upper control arms and I fully understand their purpose but I guess these are just kind of intimidating to me. How much is my margain of error?

Thanks,

Gunnar

The arms from www.scandc.com (http://www.scandc.com/) really look good but I'm just kind of hesitate of them because they are adjustable. How would/why would you adjust them? I have adjustable rear upper control arms and I fully understand their purpose but I guess these are just kind of intimidating to me. How much is my margain of error?

Thanks,

Gunnar

Adjustable front arms = no need for shims. All you have to do is rotate the arm, similar to adding/removing shims. I was hesitant at first too, but lots of people here run them and swear by them. I don't have the $$$$ for the lowers so I just reinforced my lowers by the ball joint. Who knows I might have another $50o if so, I'll pick up the lowers that Marcus is making. Good luck

The arms from www.scandc.com (http://www.scandc.com/) really look good but I'm just kind of hesitate of them because they are adjustable. How would/why would you adjust them? I have adjustable rear upper control arms and I fully understand their purpose but I guess these are just kind of intimidating to me. How much is my margain of error?

I installed a set of SC&C uppers along with the tall Howe joints on my '66 wagon. First time using this product. Using GW's on my '70.
Awesome product!! :thumbsup:
Makes wheel alignments simple and easy to fine tune using live readings on the alignment rack based on the suggested settings that come with the arms.
Not to mention the great improvement in the car's overall handling manners.
Looking forward to the lowers when they become available...

Don't waste you time/money on the others, unless its for looks only. Give Mark a call
@ SCandC. He's great to talk to and he'll explain what you can expect from the other tubular control arms out there. There Stage 2 plus kit is the single most biggest improvement you can do to improve the handling of your car. The adjustable arms allow you to achieve alignment specs that the others only dream of and with the Howe tall ball joints just bring it all together.
Recipe for a mean ass driver: SCandC stage2 plus