Don't ya hate seeing this in a car ad for a vintage auto? "Never driven in rain or snow." "Never washed with water!" "Never seen water!" What bull****. It really bugs me that ppl waste bandwidth typing this BS. Do they really think that ppl are as stupid as they are to type this nonsense?

Being that we are talking about a 40 year old car, yes it is ridiculous. However, in the case of a frame off or a really nice resto, I consider the car to be reborn, nice to know it hasnt been driven in the rain since then. Right?

I had my My 70 for 16 years and never washed it or drove it in the rain.:yes:

Even if you never did drive your car in rain, you certainly can't keep the water in the air from attacking your car's metal. Let's face it, it's a "water world" that we live in. And corrosion is a never ending process.

Well, I've had my 70 for 17 years and it's been driven in the rain whenever it's raining and I need to go somewhere. Been washed several times too.

However, on the plus side, I live in the Phoenix metro area, this car was bought new at an area dealer (Courtesy Chev on Camelback Rd.) and just from looking under it I'd guess it's never been on a dirt road. Hasn't been on one since I got it in '87. I'm the second owner. We're talking clean here.

I wash both of my Chevelles about every two weeks, so that is a bad thing?

I keep mine in a giant tub full of water. Well, not really but I live in the south so 100° and 100% humidity what's the difference?

I was the Chevelle every week, and whenever its raining it is right there in the middle of it. The car won't melt because of some water.

My late mother had a policy for years of never driving in rain or snow and that was in northern Ohio. It can be true. Some of the cars out here in the desert that come from estate sales look like they were never driven in any foul weather.

Go do a frame-off nut & bolt resto, then drive it just once in the rain, and tell me whether or not it looks half as good afterwards. ...and if you don't drive it in the rain, you don't need to wash with water because it doesn't get dirty, just wipe off the dust and polish any smudges.

I don't understand what your beef is. :confused: If you want "show-quality", you keep it dry. It's not for me, but that's what some people are into.

I keep mine in a giant tub full of water. Well, not really but I live in the south so 100° and 100% humidity what's the difference?

hey Andy ........ how you get all the bondo to dry ?? :thumbsup:

Don't ya hate seeing this in a car ad for a vintage auto? "Never driven in rain or snow." "Never washed with water!" "Never seen water!" What bull****. It really bugs me that ppl waste bandwidth typing this BS. Do they really think that ppl are as stupid as they are to type this nonsense?


I know of a few premium restored muscle cars that have never seen water.

What really bugs me is people wasting bandwidth typing BS complaints ;)

guys I think I've seen one better ...... its a split window vet..... that has never even been on the ground !! since it was restored it lives in a plastic bubble which I believe is filled with some Inert gas ... in a climate controlled den in the guys house !!!

guys I think I've seen one better ...... its a split window vet..... that has never even been on the ground !! since it was restored it lives in a plastic bubble which I believe is filled with some Inert gas ... in a climate controlled den in the guys house !!!

There's a guy in Burbank that bought a brand new 62 Vette from Community Chevrolet. He drove it to his garage a few miles away and parked it. It still sits there on jack stands, never driven in the rain, or anywhere after that.

When I did my first frame-off every nut & bolt on a 69 Chevelle in 1998, it was NEVER driven in the rain for the four years I owned it. I wiped it down top to bottom including the chassis from time to time. Won a Super Chevy Show 1st place too.

My next black on black Chevelle, same thing.

The full resto I did on a 69 Z-28 didn't see any water either.

When I work that hard on a car to get it as close to perfect as I can, I watch the weather reports closely before traveling and baby it all the time. There's nothing wrong with driving a restored car in the rain. Just depends on what it's purpose is. Could be for show, or a driver.

It really bugs me that ppl waste bandwidth typing this BS. Do they really think that ppl are as stupid as they are to type this nonsense?

No offense but isn't posting this topic a bigger waste? What do you really care what someone else does with their car?

Breaking it down to the car has to come into contact with air which has water in it so they can say "never gotten wet" is about as silly as me saying I can breath under water because the air I breath has water in it...

I never wash my car, but I don't really think that's a selling point. :)

I guess if my car was a trailer queen, it wouldn't get washed either. But, if you don't wash a car, even if it's not "dirty", how do you get the dust, dirt, airborne pathogens and pollen off? If you wipe it down with the california duster, it won't get all the dust off the paint.

I like to do donuts in the mud with mine.

...and I do wash it, but I don't drive it in the rain unless it rains while I drive it.

Does that count?

I don't drive mine in the rain, because water pours in the kickpanel vents, and I don't like getting my new Red carpet wet! :P

The reason for my original post really is my gripe about using the "never been driven in rain, never seen water" theme as being a ridiculous claim with respect to a sales pitch. I have no beef with how anyone treats their car,
but I think it's ludicrous to use it in a sales ad. All of our cars are subject to water all the time, unless you store it in a dehumidified garage kept at 0%, and never remove it from that enclosed box. H2O is working on your car continuosly, even if you never wash it or drive it in rain.

but I think it's ludicrous to use it in a sales ad. All of our cars are subject to water all the time, unless you store it in a dehumidified garage kept at 0%, and never remove it from that enclosed box. H2O is working on your car continuosly, even if you never wash it or drive it in rain.Nobody does a concourse resto, and leaves anything bare metal... If I had taken pics I'd show you, I did a frame-off on my car, and then drove it in the rain. Unless I wanted to spend a week under it with a toothbrush, it will never again look like it did before the rain.

This guy that lives in my nieghborhood....bought a 55 Chevy brand new. He drove it here and there, on sundays and such. Then only drove it once a year. Then just started it once a year. It sat in his garage, covered. On blocks so it wouldnt mess up the tires, doors cracked so it wouldnt ruin the rubber. It was 100% stock except the fan belt rotted off. It was brand spanking new. Literally had never been washed or driven in the rain. He sold it a few years ago for only 35K. I bet on Barett Jackson it would of brought in over 100K.

That's a cool story. :) A guy my mom works with bought a 85 or so IROC Camaro, drove it home from the dealership, put in on blocks in his garage, and a cover over it, then never laid a finger on it...he tried to start it last year, and surprisingly enough, it wouldn't...the engine is stuck, the rubber is brittle, and it stinks inside I guess. He obviously didn't take any precautions when he executed this *brilliant* idea. So, he has a brand new, piece of junk that needs a bunch of work to be brand new. Oh well, some people's kids!

I know of a few premium restored muscle cars that have never seen water.

What really bugs me is people wasting bandwidth typing BS complaints ;)

Thank you!!

I'm burning your precious Bandwidth I guess.. because .. mine has never been washed.. never seen a hose, all of the above!! ;)

I don't like to drive mine in the rain but here in the Pacific Northwest, sometimes its unavoidable. It takes me at least 8 hours to fully rehab the car after being driven in the rain but its worth it.

When I first got it I worried over every little smudge, etc. Its not numbers matching and not "rare". Then I decieded that if I wanted a flower in a pot, I'd get one! Now I drag race the hell out of it and get it as covered with rubber as I can. Bottom line is that I now enjoy my car and the hobby a lot more.

No offense to the guys that spend countless hours and money on 100 point restos. If that's the way you enjoy the hobby, that's awesome. Besides, looking at cars like that is a learning experience and its cool to see one exactly as it was new.

hummmm ....
lets see its got windsheild wipers :)
the doors have rubber seals :)
the windows have rubber seals & felts :)
& they roll up too ......

I do believe CHEVY intended for me to drive in the rain :thumbsup:

hummmm ....
lets see its got windsheild wipers :)
the doors have rubber seals :)
the windows have rubber seals & felts :)
& they roll up too ......

I do believe CHEVY intended for me to drive in the rain :thumbsup:

Amen to that. :hurray::hurray::hurray:

hummmm ....
lets see its got windsheild wipers :)
the doors have rubber seals :)
the windows have rubber seals & felts :)
& they roll up too ......

I do believe CHEVY intended for me to drive in the rain :thumbsup:

WHAT?
From the way some guys treat these things I think that they must be irreplaceable, irrepairable museum pieces of artwork. Worth hundreds of millions of dollars. But at least I get a good laugh when I watch these guys scatter like roaches from a car show when a single wisp of a cloud floats over the horizon. LOLOLOL.

That's a cool story. :) A guy my mom works with bought a 85 or so IROC Camaro, drove it home from the dealership, put in on blocks in his garage, and a cover over it, then never laid a finger on it...he tried to start it last year, and surprisingly enough, it wouldn't...the engine is stuck, the rubber is brittle, and it stinks inside I guess. He obviously didn't take any precautions when he executed this *brilliant* idea. So, he has a brand new, piece of junk that needs a bunch of work to be brand new. Oh well, some people's kids!

Must've gotten the idea from the Tulsarama....but didn't have means of a burial.

My 72 has only been driven in the rain once and washed with water twice since it was re-done. In the 30 years before I owned it who knows how many times it has seen rain and the car wash. I met a guy a few years ago that has a 67 SS that he has owned since new. It has less than 40 thousand miles on it and he claims it was only driven the rain one time. The day he brought it home from the dealer. Don't know? I have only seen the car at a show twice in the 10 years I've been attending local shows and cruises.

I think most folks mean, not driven in rain or washed since it was restored.

a car that never gets driven in the rain is like a kid that never gets to play in the mud.
the tires are tread for a reason.there are wipers and door seals for a reason.
dammit, they engineers spent a good amount of time designing these things to take everything short of a category 5 hurricane, so if you don't use the wipers once in a while, you are disrespecting all the hard work and engineering that was put into these things.
really- at a car show, you see two big block Chevelles that look identical from 50 feet away, which car will you find more interesting..
the car that just underwent a 6 figure resto that gets pushed out of the enclosed trailer and has a spiffy sign that has a few facts about that model of car that were taken straight out of magazine articles, or the same model car parked right next to it with bugs plastered all over the front end (with a few plastered to the front of the engine block for good measure), rock chips around the wheelwells, door dings along the sides, sandwich wrappers and Pepsi cans on the floor in the back seat, and license plates from a state that is 500 miles away?
i'm gonna be walking right past the trailer queen and looking at the car that gets used for what it was designed for..

at that show the one that doesn't have the chips and bugs all over it will win the trophy and attract the balk of the attention.

These cars rusted because of the wonderful job of designing places to trap and hold water. My car is not a trailer queen. IT is driven everywhere that I take it. I just don't drive it in bad weather. After thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours repairing and replacing rusted metal I just choose not to start that process all over again.

I probably should just bite my tongue here , but,.......I am not going to.
The guys here that are screaming from the roof tops that these cars were meant to be driven, and that they don't like trailered cars,.....probably don't have enough knowledge, time, money, and resources to even attempt restoring or owning a perfectly restored correct musclecar.

You do what you like and can afford, and let others do what they like and can afford.
there are thousands of rock chipped, bugs on the front average joe garage restoration, bought the parts form the local re-pop, made in china distributor of ill fitting parts.
So if you got one of those cars and want to drive it through the taco bell drive through in a pouring rain to get your fix of burritos and mountain dew, so be it.

You do what works for you.

My car is not a perfect trailered restored car, but it is far closer to that than it is a driver.
If I could take mine to the next level, I would do it. but I do lack time money and resources at the moment, Knowledge, well I know enough to get in trouble, the rest I would have to get from a few of the guys here.

I could stand and examine the details of a perfect restored car for hours. The joe blow, drive it every weekend cars are nice but a 30 second glance at the car show gives the whole story on what the car is, and no big deal because there are 300 more bug splattered non-correct, no big deal cars just like it at the same show.

Don't ya hate seeing this in a car ad for a vintage auto? "Never driven in rain or snow." "Never washed with water!" "Never seen water!" What bull****. It really bugs me that ppl waste bandwidth typing this BS. Do they really think that ppl are as stupid as they are to type this nonsense?

Actually, the first '71 Malibu I restored never saw water after being repainted.

It stayed covered in the garage and was always dusted with a California Duster and wiped with the Mequires spray and wipe wax treatment prior to going for a cruise and before being put back up in the garage. And it did get driven at least 1-2 times a week.

I had it for over a year after I painted it and it never saw rain, snow, or even a water hose. So, its not that hard to believe.

I probably should just bite my tongue here , but,.......I am not going to.
The guys here that are screaming from the roof tops that these cars were meant to be driven, and that they don't like trailered cars,.....probably don't have enough knowledge, time, money, and resources to even attempt restoring or owning a perfectly restored correct musclecar.


I could stand and examine the details of a perfect restored car for hours. The joe blow, drive it every weekend cars are nice but a 30 second glance at the car show gives the whole story on what the car is, and no big deal because there are 300 more bug splattered non-correct, no big deal cars just like it at the same show.


You know, my car falls into both categories. I drive it when I feel like it and I drive it to car shows and you know what? It still gets the attention that it deserves and just as much as some of the trailer queen or nose stuck up the arses of the "special" owners cars. I like the attention to be honest with you. :)

1966 SS never driven in the rain.

Towed in the snow? maybe ;)

I probably should just bite my tongue here , but,.......
I could stand and examine the details of a perfect restored car for hours. The joe blow, drive it every weekend cars are nice but a 30 second glance at the car show gives the whole story on what the car is, and no big deal because there are 300 more bug splattered non-correct, no big deal cars just like it at the same show.

you're post struck a nerve so I'm not going to bite my tongue either .......I'm glade you can stand for hours an examine the details of a CAR that more then likely was restored by a professional Mechanic (like me) the biggest part the owner of that prefect example did was supply the MONEY for things on E-BAY thousands of dollars of some little part that ONLY he & his mechanic even know is there !!!

I have more respect for the guy burning the candle at both ends .. supporting the family taking care of all aspects of his life & still having enough love in this hobby to restore to the best he can...... ( no E-Bay Tire repair kit in the original box option ) & at the end of the event when everyone is headed home he's got a bigger smile on his face ... becouse he earned it ....... not tried to buy it & got beat !!

I probably should just bite my tongue here , but,.......


Keep biting.. saves my tongue a blood bath~


:hurray::yes::thumbsup:

Some of the Clowns on this site are really funny when they talk out of their arse... It's quite amusing. :D

you're post struck a nerve so I'm not going to bite my tongue either .......I'm glade you can stand for hours an examine the details of a CAR that more then likely was restored by a professional Mechanic (like me) the biggest part the owner of that prefect example did was supply the MONEY for things on E-BAY thousands of dollars of some little part that ONLY he & his mechanic even know is there !!!


It doesn't bother me a bit that you wish to think that way, your are entitled to that.
However, I know quite a few guys with trailerd show cars, only a couple of them have really deep pockets, all of them did most of the restoration themselves only farming out a couple things that were out of their experience range or lack of equipment. So no, these cars were not restored by a professional mechanic (like you) (lol), some of these guys are a great network of friends and knowledge. I still will defend the trailer cars. If nobody wanted to preserve a few really correct original/restored cars what would we have to go by???? Nice cars will always be nice cars, but a really correct judged points restored muscle car is AWESOME.
So what you are really mad at? Is it that other people can afford to do that or what??

(?).............

I thought this topic might kick up a little bit of controversy, but certainly not as much as has been posted. And certainly not with as much anger as has been posted!

It doesn't bother me a bit that you wish to think that way, these cars were not restored by a professional mechanic (like you) (lol), .

I guess it shouldn't surprise me that you totally disregarded the most important part of my post or that you have little or no regard for what I do for a living ...


I have more respect for the guy burning the candle at both ends .. supporting the family taking care of all aspects of his life & still having enough love in this hobby to restore to the best he can...... ( no E-Bay Tire repair kit in the original box option ) & at the end of the event when everyone is headed home he's got a bigger smile on his face ... becouse he earned it ....... not tried to buy it & got beat !!

I've worked for too many people with Deep pockets who take all the credit for the finished result... One example I posted at the beginning of this where his Vet is living in a bubble inside his Den ....

But I'll be more then happy to give you credit.......
becouse anyone who can totally judge every bug splattered Joe Blows car in 30 seconds flat an know its just like 300 others is do respect for his expertise ....... so humbly :bow: :bow:

Every car that has been repainted has seen water. Because what happens after painting? That's right WET SANDING! And when that's finished the body guy washes the car!

No car has NEVER seen water.

P.S. If you have ever taken a Chevelle to Chevellabration, your Chevelle has been in more than its fair share of water!!!!

Wow. So old. So angry. :D :p

Wash your car like people have been doing for god knows how many years, then you take it out and drive it on the high way or something. That gets all the sitting water out just fine. :yes:

This topic ranks right up there with the following "NO BONDO!!"

1966 SS never driven in the rain.

Towed in the snow? maybe ;)

Now that IS funny Tom :D


Some of us modify them and run the crap out of them and some of us preserve them like new or even better than new (and everything in between).

I for one am just glad that so many are being preserved myself.

Different strokes for different folks

I guess it shouldn't surprise me that you totally disregarded the most important part of my post or that you have little or no regard for what I do for a living

But I'll be more then happy to give you credit.......
becouse anyone who can totally judge every bug splattered Joe Blows car in 30 seconds flat an know its just like 300 others is do respect for his expertise ....... so humbly :bow: :bow:


You are definately an interesting individual, I will give you that.
When you really figure out what it is that causes you so much distress and anger, let me know.
Until then, then I will be applying the following quotes as the rules to live by regarding your last goofball response.

"Never argue with a moron. They will drag you down to their level and win with experience".

"Don't ever argue with an idiot... people watching may not be able to tell which one's which."

;)

Why would any one care if I wash my El Camino or not? I order it in Feb. 1970, Left Sahli Chevrolet in Beaver Falls in April of 70. Ran the ship out of it for many years then did a frame off. I built it to be a show car WHY!
I am to only person that has pulled the (numbers matching curved bench seat M-22 handle) in the Caminos lifetime. It was caught in the rain twice at Super Chevy. No I have never wash it nor do I plan too.
I believe any one that has a hobby car can do what he wants to do with it. It is your money and it is your pleasure. I enjoy showing my El Camino as much as a racer likes a better E.T. Hey look at the bright side, Lower water bill and the well will not go dry.
" Different strokes for different folks "
Bob ACES--AACA

Yes ....... I have to agree :bow:

when the person resorts to name calling its time to just ignore them

Yes ....... I have to agree :bow:

when the person resorts to name calling its time to just ignore them

Yep, name calling is sooo second gradeish.

Actually I'm thinking this really wasn't all about agreeing or not with never getting a car wet BUT rather agreeing about using THAT statement in a for sale ad.

I've never been naked in the rain but I still take showers and wash my butt

I've never been naked in the rain ...................

Man you don't even know what you're missing Beaux. :D

Man you don't even know what you're missing Beaux. :D


:D

Maybe i'll give this a spin at the next CB during one of the short downpours. A nice sprint through the park. Wont have to worry about scratching any cars, thats for sure.

;)

You're all poopy heads!!! :pout::pout:

hey Andy ........ how you get all the bondo to dry ?? :thumbsup:

LOL

You're all poopy heads!!! :pout::pout:

All of us?? or just the the guys that don't like trailered show cars? ;)

I LOVE IT!, I'm the BAD guy in this thread LOL.

:)

Well I don't like trailered show cars. But hey thats just me. Stuck in the past. Believing that all these cars are drivers, and liking lacquer paint. :p

I LOVE IT!, I'm the BAD guy in this thread LOL.

:)

BAD BOY BAD BOY, WATHCA GONA DO WHEN WE'RE AFTER YOU.

:D

Well I don't like trailered show cars. But hey thats just me. Stuck in the past. Believing that all these cars are drivers, and liking lacquer paint. :p

You're 17 right?? as you Mature you might grasp a word called RESPECT.. for things that you may not KNOW or LIKE... Trust me, when you give it, you get it back. :sad:

Ok I guess I should have re phrased that. I don't have anything against the cars that are trailered except for the fact they are trailered. I do and probably always will believe that no car is too good to be driven like he designers at GM designed them to be.

And where does a lack of respect come in here?

Never seen water sounds just like..Totally RUST FREE ! It's all in how you look at it, i.e. personal interpretation of the Swinglish language.

Actually I'm thinking this really wasn't all about agreeing or not with never getting a car wet BUT rather agreeing about using THAT statement in a for sale ad.

Yep Super Dean, that was exactly what my original beef was.

Amen to that. :hurray::hurray::hurray:

First weekend I had my Chevelle...it was in the rain on the way to Scottsdale. I had to make sure that the windshield wipers worked...you know :)

Yep Super Dean, that was exactly what my original beef was.

I think most got that, why should it be a beef though? We all grew up hearing "Lucky Charms are Magically Delicious" and get hit with "we need bigger units to please our women and that expensive pills and topical creams will help us do just that" in the magazines we read... There is no truth in advertising, how many 500 - 600hp n/a small blocks or big blocks do we see in magazines or hear about at car shows or even online here... I'm sure there are some but not as many as people make out there are...

Why read through or put up with so much and it doesn't bother you but the water thing does? I guess we all let something get under our skin from time to time, it just struck me as odd someone saying their car has never seen water was taken so litteral and bothered you...

Actually I'm thinking this really wasn't all about agreeing or not with never getting a car wet BUT rather agreeing about using THAT statement in a for sale ad.

Yep Super Dean, that was exactly what my original beef was.

But why? That's a HUGE selling point to someone looking for a concourse-restored museum-piece... No rust spots anywhere, no water-spots in hard-to-clean nooks and crannies, no water-damage to reproduced "factory" tags and stickers, etc.

I know of at least one premium restored Chevelle that got caught in the rain, and they removed much of the front clip so they could clean all the hard-to reach places. The owner was very discouraged because so much of his time invested in ABSOLUTE PERFECTION was lost.

We all do illogical things when it comes to these cars... hell, driving them is completely illogical. (bad gas-mileage, poor crash-safety, etc) but we do it because we love these cars. Some people want every square inch of their car to have the perfect and clean "factory" finish, others like the attention when we cruise, and some want to go fast.

If you've got a car that fits that first category, and want to sell it to someone who will show it the same way, its a 100% valid selling point, regardless of your personal opinion that they are meant to be driven... you're not the guy who's going to be paying the premium price for perfection.