Might not belong here but here goes. Just sold another car on ebay. 70 olds cutlass real solid disc brakes 12 bolt posi bop rear. They paid paypal deposit then showed up with cashiers check. What a joke! They expected me just because it says i take checks to let them have the car. AND THEY GOT PISSED!. Even a cashiers check must clear before i release anything. They called bank and got limit raised fro atm and paid balance and they left crap feedback. Idiots! Wow.

Be glad you stuck to your guns. Bad feedback on ebay is much easier to deal with than a stolen car.

I just sold mine also and said "Cash only in person". No paypal or checks. I even bought one of those counterfit pens to ensure it was real money. :cool:

Look on the bright side. Next time you wont have this issue. :)

Those counterfeit pens don't really work. The best thing to do is have someone experience with handling cash to detect fake bills. Its really unlikey that someone with identification would pass bad bills not unless they had a fake id. If you want to be sure, use can use a black light to detect most fakes.

Most new bills have the metalic ink that changes color, a water mark of the corresponding president, the strip down the middle as well as the feel of the bill. But the feel and pen cant detect when someone has bleached the old bill and printed a new bill onto it. This was big a few years ago before the started the water mark and metalic ink, people would take a $1 and print $5 or $10 on the same paper. But glad you stuck to your guns, you can contest bad feedback with followup.

They expected me just because it says i take checks to let them have the car. AND THEY GOT PISSED!. Even a cashiers check must clear before i release anything.

Was that stated in the auction? Did they know about that before they arrived?

Wire trans. Works.

Was that stated in the auction? Did they know about that before they arrived?
it said i accept cashiers checks which i do. BUUUUT they must clear first! Are you gonna let someone have your car on good faith and a piece of paper? I bet not.

it said i accept cashiers checks which i do. BUUUUT they must clear first! Are you gonna let someone have your car on good faith and a piece of paper? I bet not.

You avoided the question. In the auction did it say that you waited for the cashiers check to clear before releasing the car? I bet not. If so why not just take a personal check and wait for it to clear. Post a link to the auction.

Can't say I blame you, but in the future I'd make it clear in the ad that all checks require a 10 day grace period before the car, title or even the keys are released.

I'd be really pissed too, unless it was clearly stated in the ad that a cashier's check would be held. ...and I'm really easy-going. If I'd come a long way to pick it up, I'd be absolutely friggin' FURIOUS!!!!! I probably would have left no better than neutral feedback, because I would have accepted part of the blame myself for not clarifying before I went to get the car.

If it was clearly stated in the ad, then no problemo. Of course, I'd also be asking questions of the seller before I went to get the car, as I did when I bought mine. I took cash to go pick my car up.

I'd be really pissed too, unless it was clearly stated in the ad that a cashier's check would be held. ...and I'm really easy-going. If I'd come a long way to pick it up, I'd be absolutely friggin' FURIOUS!!!!! I probably would have left no better than neutral feedback, because I would have accepted part of the blame myself for not clarifying before I went to get the car.

If it was clearly stated in the ad, then no problemo. Of course, I'd also be asking questions of the seller before I went to get the car, as I did when I bought mine. I took cash to go pick my car up.
Dude nobody is going to release a car on a piece of paper whether it states it or not. Cashiers checks are the same as personal checks. They are not as good as cash like some people say. You can cancel a cashiers check also just like a personal check. I have sold alot of vehicles on ebay with ZERO complaints and have accepted personal and cashiers checks. Areyou going to release your car if you did not mention that a check must clear? I bet not. There are fake cashiers checks everywhere now, i know i have 6 in my chest drawer. Even if legit someone can get home and cancel and guess what? YOU are making that drive to pickup your car if you can find it. And another thing the deposit was made via paypal. They were new paypal clients and a 3 day wait period was required for them and me. So why would they think this was any different. Wire transfers do not work on the weekend for some reason.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300139749430&rd=1

If you use the search button you will find all kinds of fraudulant cashiers checks on here, including one i got recently. This is first time i encountered this so i will in the future post all funds besides cash require a small wait period disclaimer.

You would think EVERYONE knows you don’t usually ever get a car until the checks clears but it should have been stated in the ad anyway.

This is not really negative feedback, just the facts.

car is great only his page said he would take cashiers checks and he wouldn’t


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Dude nobody is going to release a car on a piece of paper whether it states it or not. Cashiers checks are the same as personal checks. They are not as good as cash like some people say. You can cancel a cashiers check also just like a personal check. I have sold alot of vehicles on ebay with ZERO complaints and have accepted personal and cashiers checks. Areyou going to release your car if you did not mention that a check must clear? I bet not. There are fake cashiers checks everywhere now, i know i have 6 in my chest drawer. Even if legit someone can get home and cancel and guess what? YOU are making that drive to pickup your car if you can find it. And another thing the deposit was made via paypal. They were new paypal clients and a 3 day wait period was required for them and me. So why would they think this was any different. Wire transfers do not work on the weekend for some reason.

The point of this discussion isn't really about Cashiers Check.

You as a seller sets up the terms and condition of the sale. You need to specify what form of payment you will accept whether if be cash, personal checks, or even Barbie dolls.

If there are specifics to the payments such as "all cash must be in twenties", "Money Order are held until they clear the bank" or "Barbie dolls need to has blue hair", those conditions should be stated as well. The potential buyer has the option to either agree with the conditions or move on.

You didn't list the conditions of Cashiers Check payment in the auction nor did you communicate the conditions after words either through email or phone conversation. Not until the buyer shows up did he learn of the additional stipulation. Had he been made aware of the additional stipulation of "Check has to clear the bank" before you release the car he could have brought cash from the beginning. Yes it was a nightmare--- His. I would have been Pissed too.

Dude

Even if the holding period wasn't stated in the auction it would have taken ZERO effort on your part to state that in correspondence with the buyer.
I did tell them it would take a holding period on a personal check but didnt on a cashiers. I just took for granted they could add 2+2 but i guess not. They aggrivated me to death to end auction which i finally did for them. Ebay wont let me change the payment details so i guess i have to put it in my description. Tried to help them, which i do everybody. i had one guy i tried to help by shipping an engine block cheap and it bit us both. the block arrived damaged and the insurance would not cover it because i didnt use a crate. But he asked me to do this which i have the emails and i was very against it. Anyway i explained it to one of those ebay live helpers and they agreed with me and said i most certainly should not have let them have vehicle unless funds cleared. They Even offered me $3000 for car which i done them a favor and let them have it for $2000 just look at the messages in the ad! Hell i think i was very overbending to say the least.

You would think EVERYONE knows you don’t usually ever get a car until the checks clears but it should have been stated in the ad anyway.

This is not really negative feedback, just the facts.


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Dean, i never turned the check down. I just wanted the funds to clear first. My bank said the cashiers check looked funny and turned the check down. The buyers were standing there when it happened.

Dude

Even if the holding period wasn't stated in the auction it would have taken ZERO effort on your part to state that in correspondence with the buyer.
You are taking this more personal than me. I take every means to describe everything clearly as possible. I even offer people to come and take a look. Yes zero effort, but never had this problem before but i know now. I have searched alot of various ads on ebay since this and have come across four ads that says funds must clear. I searched over 500 ads! There were 3 people there that day. One female which was the buyers wife. She was the one i dealt with 90% of the time. She even wanted me to send The title with a paid in full letter after the $500 deposit. After talking with her i understood that she was new to ebay. They just felt weird sending deposit with nothing to show. After they got here her husband and friend understood that i cant release the car without funds, she didnt. But oh well i learned that every possible painstaking detail must be revealed. Its almost like someone buying a car and calling you back and saying they found a rockchip on the front swaybar.

Next ebay ad can i consult racing to see if i missed something :cool:.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/L-78-Camaro-SS-4-speed_W0QQitemZ140148028123QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m140148028123

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Convertible_W0QQitemZ130143703658QQcmdZViewItem?ha sh=item130143703658

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-CHEVELLE-SS-LS6-4-SPEED-FRAME-OFF-RESTO-454-450-HP_W0QQitemZ290150864379QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item29 0150864379

Do these have the funds must clear notes. This is my point. Do you think anybody is gonna walk away with these on a piece of paper?

Like I said, you would think that everyone knows you don't ever get the car until the check clears.

I can understand both sides of this problem. When I bought my velle, I asked the seller how he wanted payment. He said that he preferred cash but would except a check (since 1. my bank was less than a 1/4 mile away, and 2. he would be cashing it before I drove off with the car). In the end I just showed up with the cash to make things easier on us both.

I did notice on two of the examples you provided, They state.

Seller's payment instructions
$2000.00 down payment due within 48 hours of end of auction. Balance due within 10 days of auctions end. Delivery at additional cost is available. Payment questions? Call Mike at 405-760-6732 prior to bidding!

The Buyer has 24 hrs. to contact by email or phone, 48 hours to pay $500 deposit in Paypal and 7 days to pay. PAYPAL ACCEPTED FOR DEPOSIT!! If you have any questions or would like to make special arrangements please call Neil at 979-268-1218.

Not exactly "check must clear first" but the "any questions call" will go a long way when dealing with people that aren't used to dealing with high dollar private sales.

Dude nobody is going to release a car on a piece of paper whether it states it or not. <snip> Areyou going to release your car if you did not mention that a check must clear? <snip>

I would not release a car on a cashier's check either. However, in such a case as yours, which involves a mis-communication, with both parties not properly communicating, I simply stated I'd have been furious. He left you positive feedback and only mentioned the cashier's check--seems like a good outcome all around. I know enough to ask and clarify exactly what the seller wants before making a trip. ...but not everybody knows about such things. Up until about 3 years ago, I never knew a cashier's check was no better than a personal check. Sometimes yokels, in their naivete, come across as trying to do something illegal.

When I sold my minivan a couple of years ago, we closed the deal at the buyer's bank. I would not have taken a cashier's check for that $17,000 if I had not been able to verify the check.

I didn't intend to be rude. I'm sure you, as an honest guy, will include such details in future sales. We all learn from our mistakes, but the first part of learning from them is realizing them.

I just feel bad about the transaction and want every one to be perfect. Sorta like obsessive compulsive on my part. My wife says everything cant be perfect. Thats why i get kind of slow on my restos, everything must be better than factory. thanks for the comments. I can take a negative but i usually want to know why even if it has to be beaten into me, literally. From now on i will get advice from you guys. Hell it might even bring me more money.

On another note ebay wont let me edit that part. Ebay says i must include it in my description because thats the way the payment details are written. I think there has to be a way to change that.