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: BBC 396 3856206 Oval port Closed chamber heads


69-Chevelle
Aug 19th, 07, 4:24 PM
Are these any good? BBC 396 3856206 Oval port Closed chamber heads. Any comments?

Johnny O
Aug 19th, 07, 4:32 PM
Good as any other GM head. The closed chambers will get the comp. ratio up if you're using a flat top piston. If it's on a domed piston, c/r will likely be 10.5/1 or higher. With a little unshrouding, and maybe bigger valves, they will work very nicely.

69-Chevelle
Aug 19th, 07, 4:44 PM
Good as any other GM head. The closed chambers will get the comp. ratio up if you're using a flat top piston. If it's on a domed piston, c/r will likely be 10.5/1 or higher. With a little unshrouding, and maybe bigger valves, they will work very nicely.

Do you know the stock valve size?

dadeo-3
Aug 19th, 07, 4:46 PM
I run a set on my 13:1 compression 427.
I installed 1.88 exhaust valves, but retained the 2.06 intakes (stock valves are 2.06/1.72). I also did some intake valve unshrouding, and gasket matching. I am very happy with the heads.

pdq67
Aug 19th, 07, 5:38 PM
I have a bare set out in the garage.

They are supposed to vary between 96.7 and 98 cc's so cc them so that you will know for sure!!

pdq67

69-Chevelle
Aug 19th, 07, 5:43 PM
I run a set on my 13:1 compression 427.
I installed 1.88 exhaust valves, but retained the 2.06 intakes (stock valves are 2.06/1.72). I also did some intake valve unshrouding, and gasket matching. I am very happy with the heads.

What is the biggest intake I can fit in the head? 2.19 or 2.25?

pdq67
Aug 19th, 07, 6:06 PM
I figure 2.19" will do you nicely!!

That said, you will have to plunge-cut relieve them so they will breath right and so doing will lose you a bunch of cc's, so then you will probably need to plane them some to get back compression if you want to!!

I mention this b/c a flat-topped pistoned P/U motor 454 will be about 9.2 to 1 CR., w/ stock -206's, up from like 7.9 w/ -781's!!

If I was to play w/ bigger valves, I would rework my cast-iron Merlin ovals and install 2.25"/1.94" valves for my 496.

pdq67

Johnny O
Aug 19th, 07, 6:44 PM
and so doing will lose you a bunch of cc's

Dont you mean 'gain' a buch of cc's?? Which you will then have to lose again by milling the heads.

And also, not necessarily so. When I had my 215's done over with bigger valves, even with the unshrouding, they only measured a couple cc's larger than before. With the new larger valves, sitting in the correct spot now after the new seats, it didnt change things all that much.

I dont know that you can go to 2.25 intakes, those chambers are not too big. I went with 2.19's also. I would think that's plenty. As dadeo-3 says, even the stock valves do a nice job.

dadeo-3
Aug 19th, 07, 7:35 PM
The reason I stuck with the 2.06 intake valves is because of the shrouding issue.
I installed a good flowing race-flow valve with an undercut stem to help the flow numbers, and minimized the ammount of cc gain because I did not have to plunge cut them as much.
It actually worked out very well, and the heads make more power than I expected.

pdq67
Aug 20th, 07, 6:59 AM
Right John,

I always think in reverse is all!

Plunge-cutting them will increase the chamber's cc's and then planing them will decrease their cc's..

Sorry about that.

And I like to use the old stock type, .020" thick steel shim headgaskets to up the CR. a schosh more vs the more common .038"/.039" or whatever thicker composite headgaskets.

pdq67

Mike Feudo
Aug 20th, 07, 4:43 PM
They are the early narrow chamber heads. A lot of people run into water trying to put 1.88 exhaust valves in them. For a 396 that isn't turned too high they work fine but if you are really serious find a set of the 215 style.