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: There's no way this is worth it


Audies71Malibu
Jul 6th, 07, 8:39 AM
Reproduction for this much?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1965-Chevelle-Z-16-rear-trunk-trim-reproduction_W0QQitemZ250138326851QQihZ015QQcatego ryZ34204QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

cliffs1970
Jul 6th, 07, 8:48 AM
Looks like the seller got carried away with the zeros.

Bowtie-72
Jul 6th, 07, 9:52 AM
This about this: Ebay gets a cut of the final value. I forget what the exact percentage is, but you'd think between that and Paypal, the profit margin would kinda make you shy away from selling it on ebay.

JWA
Jul 6th, 07, 10:44 AM
It may be high priced but since they (True Connections) are the exclusive supplier and it is for the Z16s, which even projects are expensive, the price is not out of line IMO. Personally I'd rather see the rare car only pieces like that be real expensive to help keep a lid on folks trying to perpetuate fraud. That is just my opinion. Others may disagree.

Another thing, ebay has a far reaching audience for a cheap advertising price. A good way to get the word out.

rbwjr325
Jul 6th, 07, 11:16 AM
Others Do

Dean
Jul 6th, 07, 11:22 AM
You can bet True Connections knows what it will bring.
I mean where else are you going to find one if needed?

Mr69
Jul 8th, 07, 2:49 AM
Reproduction for this much?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1965-Chevelle-Z-16-rear-trunk-trim-reproduction_W0QQitemZ250138326851QQihZ015QQcatego ryZ34204QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Don't look now but your ignorance is showing.....;)

Audies71Malibu
Jul 9th, 07, 7:28 PM
Don't look now but your ignorance is showing.....;)

Apparently. I didn't even pay that much for my car. Granted it's no Z16, but still..

Mr69
Jul 9th, 07, 10:44 PM
Apparently. I didn't even pay that much for my car. Granted it's no Z16, but still..

The Z-16 is worth 20 times what your car is worth. Probably more.
Do some research on them. Only 200 made + (1 convertible, purportedly) !

rich8265
Jul 10th, 07, 2:47 AM
I'm not familiar with the Z-16 but I have done some business with True Connections. ;)They are decent people and have helped me out with some
parts and advice. :cool:They have also helped my buddy with overnight shipping (no extra cost) so he could make Hot August nights last year! That kind of customer service makes a person remember the company.
:thumbsup:The owner is a 1965 fan, Chevelles/El Caminos.

Audies71Malibu
Jul 11th, 07, 12:20 PM
The Z-16 is worth 20 times what your car is worth. Probably more.
Do some research on them. Only 200 made + (1 convertible, purportedly) !

You're not kidding. I guess I'm going to have to get some powerball tickets later.

66 MYSTERY CHEVELLE
Jul 11th, 07, 12:47 PM
That would be 201 made and doesn't include any old conv. wives tale :noway:

Wheelhop
Jul 11th, 07, 1:22 PM
True connections is a reputable supplier. And this being a rare part for an even rarer vehicle makes it OK.
I see both sides, though. No sense beating each other up over this!!

69396ss
Jul 11th, 07, 2:33 PM
They've got their tooling costs to contend with, and I'm sure with 201 being produced, there won't be many orders to offset the costs.

If I had a owned Z-16 that needed one, I'd likely not only be grateful for an option to replace it, but would also likely think $2500 was chump change to finalize the detailing of a car of such historic importance.

I also think you could go to a reputable machine shop to produce for less.

It's just stamped, formed, polished, brushed and painted stainless.

eyewanta65
Jul 12th, 07, 10:12 AM
They have been making them for a number of years now. I like the price where it's at. Keeps many from slapping them on their Malibu's. I have been seriously considering doing a Z 16 resto mod clone. All the badging (including the $2500 trim),with the 572 stuffed in.

Mr69
Jul 12th, 07, 1:51 PM
I also think you could go to a reputable machine shop to produce for less.

No way.
Think again.

Brettd85
Jul 12th, 07, 2:01 PM
I suppose its worth that much as long as it fits better than the pedals, zbar linkage, and frame mount I bought through them... :rolleyes::clonk::sad:

69396ss
Jul 12th, 07, 2:05 PM
No way.
Think again.

Really? 1 off piece of Sheet stock stainless for less than $2500?

I didn't see anything special other than stamped ribbs, a radius curved end, and finishing.

So maybe a shear, radius and die stamping on the brake press, some brush finish, polish ribs and paint.

Missing anything?

It's not extruded Aluminum with extensive die costs is it?

It is just cut, pressed, stamped, formed, brushed, polished, punched and painted stainless right?

Mr69
Jul 14th, 07, 5:52 AM
Really? 1 off piece of Sheet stock stainless for less than $2500?

I didn't see anything special other than stamped ribbs, a radius curved end, and finishing.

So maybe a shear, radius and die stamping on the brake press, some brush finish, polish ribs and paint.

Missing anything?

It's not extruded Aluminum with extensive die costs is it?

It is just cut, pressed, stamped, formed, brushed, polished, punched and painted stainless right?

And how long would it take to make a die this big? How much would that cost??
You ever been in the machine shop business or or done any tool and die work?

69396ss
Jul 14th, 07, 8:37 AM
Agreed on Die making, So the whole trick then is avoiding die stamping the entire piece and stamping only the two ribs and utilizing a brake press on the radius curve.

I really can't see the piece clearly in the photos and may have to ultimately conceed, but it looked to me simply like two ribs and a radius curve at the bottom which I think could be done without Die stamping the entire trim piece.

Clearly more labor intensive, but you can get a lot of hourly labor for $2500.

I could be wrong, (and am certainly not going to try to prove it :) ) but I still think you could one off, prototype this piece for less than $2500 and without extensive Tool and Die costs.

CRUZN69
Jul 14th, 07, 2:08 PM
The people at True connections aren't trying to rip anyone off. Seems to mee a bunch of people here talking trash about something your never going to be in the market for.
I've built three cars and the only place I even go to for parts are the guys at TC. Great service and they have the ability to find used parts or NOS parts that those other companies don't have time for.
69396SS maybe you should call them and offer your services. Sounds like you could make money and save them some also.

69396ss
Jul 14th, 07, 10:40 PM
Now, now.

Nobodies bashing True connections and I'm quite sure that they are die stamping these parts and that their tooling costs and low demand for the part make that price a necessity to absorb their initial tooling investment.

If you read this a little closer you'll see that this discussion revolved more around whether you could produce that part without die stamping it.

Since the price of this part revolves entirely around the cost of the process to produce it,
I think that the possibility of an alternate manufacturing process is a perfectly reasonable thing to question and discuss in an online BS session, in a catagory titled "What's it worth"

Don't you?

I wouldn't get knotted over it :)

rubadub
Jul 15th, 07, 12:30 AM
If a guy could get a little better look at it he might be able to determine if he could make it.

69396ss
Jul 15th, 07, 12:54 AM
Hhhm, maybe those photos were made blurry intentionally because of just that reason. :)

rubadub
Jul 15th, 07, 12:59 AM
That could be.:)

Mr69
Jul 16th, 07, 4:44 AM
Think about this.
If you were able to whip one out, it better be a perfect reproduction, because I doubt you would sell very many seconds. Get my drift !

69396ss
Jul 16th, 07, 7:12 AM
I looked at a standard 65 SS Sunday at a show. It definately needs to be die stamped as it has varying ranges of curves throughout. I assume the Z-16 piece does too so this is all pretty much moot..