No doubt a valuable car. Wonder what I would spend all the money on if I were so lucky to stumble upon a Z-16 sitting in a barn. You guys think someone out there has one and doesnt even know it? Just thought it was interesting.

http://www.chevelles.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=13475

Correct me if Iam wrong I think they are all accounted for and you wont be lucky enough to find one left in a barn.:confused:

Correct me if Iam wrong I think they are all accounted for and you wont be lucky enough to find one left in a barn.:confused:


I don't know if that is True, ie.. that they are all accounted for.. we only wish we they were all accounted for, so it is not an impossibility that one could be found still. :yes: 201 Made

Heck, I was about to post a a Crocus Yellow one for Sale this week and now I am going to hold off, as it would make this one look like a steal at $275,000

Mike Crown

Correct me if Iam wrong I think they are all accounted for and you wont be lucky enough to find one left in a barn.:confused:

Whoops, are there that few? I thought they were in the 200's or something.

Correct me if Iam wrong I think they are all accounted for and you wont be lucky enough to find one left in a barn.:confused:
OK, consider yourself corrected. something like 69 or 70 are known and accounted for. 201 or 202 were built (debated)

Jason wins, LOL
Well if you find just the air cleaner for that car atlest its worth 5K-8K:yes:

Or the Z-16 only Radiator that was listed recently on E-bay that hit $10,600, reserve not met.

Boy, And I'm nervous because I have over $50K into my car! :)

Can you imagine?

That would be one amazing car to have. I would think with 201 made and 70 accounted for. You would have to figure over the past 40 years at least 1/3 of them have been wrecked, crushed, etc. I'm sure it's possible there a few dozen left out there somewhere, but it would be like finding a needle in a haystack

This looks identical to the one Mark Meekins of NCOA owned. He also had one in parts that he was restoring (circa 1991-2). He also stated that it was believed that one (the 201st?) was a convertible. Many were given to celebrities and high profile people. There's always a possibility . . .

A little off topic but the last time I was doing a lot to my car NCOA and Mark Meekins was still around. I was just wondering if anyone knew when and why it went under? Also, is Mark affiliated with Aces/Team Chevelle?
Thanks

I had a chance to buy one years ago it was a pile of parts but it was a true Z16 I found out how rare they were from a super chevy mag called my freind that had it he said he sold it three weeks before I called him he said he would have sold it to me cheap that was in the 80's but it didn't have the original engine so I guess according to some people it wasn't worth any more than any other 65 SSchevelle without the original motor ya right!

OK, consider yourself corrected. something like 69 or 70 are known and accounted for. 201 or 202 were built (debated)

I don't know if that is True, ie.. that they are all accounted for.. we only wish we they were all accounted for, so it is not an impossibility that one could be found still. :yes: 201 Made


I read an article in a Chevelle Magazine about Z16s. It said there was only one made that was convertible, and it was unaccounted for. Any truth to that? I know I still have that magazine somewhere in the basement. It was a popular magazine too. Was it just called 'Chevelle' (?) Sorry for the large font. I want someone to see this and reply!:confused:

If you like rare, there were 66 Beaumont SD-396 convertibles built for '67; rather 70 built with 66 for Canada and 4 for export.

Please don't write in that Large Font.. there is no need for it, we can all read your reply just as easily in regular font.. Thank you.

This is going to go into a Bench Racing topic guys.. and far off the topic of a what it is worth.. :D especially when we start talking about the old wive's tale of a Convertible being built, start making guesses on how many are accounted for and how many may be left.. all guesses IMO...

There were 201 made, the Prototype in Baltimore and the rest at the Kansas Plant. They have been coming up at auction alot lately.. prices are always above $200K... a True Rare Car!! Always a car that brings up much discussion and unfortaunately many wives tales :yes:

This is going to go into a Bench Racing topic guys.. and far off the topic of a what it is worth..

While it could go in the Bench Racing forum, I feel it is fairly well placed here. Up above it sais "What's it worth? & ebay/online sales discussions". Am I ok now? ;)

weren't there two prototypes? 1 known to exist today. And I thought there was Chev. documents that indicated 1 convertible.

As far as what it's worth. IMO, if the is car documented and has all the right stuff, which it looks like it does, it's worth every penny. Understanding, of course the market is kind of soft right now. But, I would question way it's so cheap.

Greg, I agree with you on the price. Not that I'm in the market for a Z16 or have been tracking the prices closely, but there was a yellow one for sale at a classic car dealership in Warsaw, IN about 16 years ago that was a little under 200K; although I don't know what it actually sold for.


Also, I wouldn't call the convertible a "wives" tale. As a matter of fact I would call it the real MYSTERY CHEVELLE:yes:

A Black one went through 2007 Scottsdale Barrett-Jackson for $286K Lot 1245.1

There is one in Dallas with 14000 miles and is an untouched original. It retains every piece as it was built including the 1974 N.C. inspection sticker. All decals, emblems,markings etc. are the original ones. He has turned down a $300,000 offer from an investment group in Houston. Not for me but sure represents a piece of history.

Greg, I agree with you on the price. Not that I'm in the market for a Z16 or have been tracking the prices closely, but there was a yellow one for sale at a classic car dealership in Warsaw, IN about 16 years ago that was a little under 200K; although I don't know what it actually sold for.


Also, I wouldn't call the convertible a "wives" tale. As a matter of fact I would call it the real MYSTERY CHEVELLE:yes:

Nope.. I own that name!! :noway: Can't call it that...:D

Mike, you caught me on that one. Would 65 MYSTERY CHEVELLE work?:D

Here's a link to another thread that discusses Z16 production (and more) and references Mark Meekins research. Still doesn't prove anything though, I guess seeing is believing.
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168232

Please don't write in that Large Font.. there is no need for it, we can all read your reply just as easily in regular font.. Thank you.

:D especially when we start talking about the old wive's tale of a Convertible being built

Always a car that brings up much discussion and unfortaunately many wives tales :yes:

I did say sorry for the large font, it is there to use it though. It's not an old wives tale. I read an article years ago about a convertible Z16. I'm sure many of you read the same article or other articles about that convertible. I don't listen to gossip. I read facts. But since no one had mentioned it, I wondered if it was true. It looks like there are others who have read about it.

It's not an old wives tale. I read an article years ago about a convertible Z16. I'm sure many of you read the same article or other articles about that convertible. I don't listen to gossip. I read facts. But since no one had mentioned it, I wondered if it was true. It looks like there are others who have read about it.

Do you believe EVERYTHING you read? :D Thats exactly how these "wives tales" get started...

Almost EVERY Chevelle Magazine/article/book has errors, typos or other inaccuracies. And not just on the Z16 articles, but articles in general. Sometimes its an honest mistake, and sometimes its just NOT checking the facts and relying on someone elses "story". Often it also seems just to be better "writing" using "gossip" or just embelishing for a more interesting article (more interesting for the general public, the wider audience).

While I do believe the one convertible is possible (and likely), I am pretty sure no one (even those magazine articles) has ever found any proof (documents!). The is a guy on this site that says he has ridden in the Z16 convert many years ago (I think thats what he said).



Back to the original post, IMO, there are probably a few "restorable" examples left out there with owners that have no idea what they are and what they have (maybe a repaint, or some trim/emblems missing, etc)... with maybe even a few "unmolested" originals in someones barn.

Remember this, no matter how many people use the internet, and how many "Chevelle" lovers come to this website, there are probably far more "Chevelle" people that have never seen this site. There are many people that don't know B-J auctions from a hole in the ground. Since we frequent these sites, WE sometimes assume that Everyone in the world does the same...
And even though the Z-16 was a special car, once it was a few years old, much of that "special" was gone. In the later 60's and 70's, most people wouldn't realize how special and unique these cars would be. And probably no one (or very few people) realized the future value of the Z16... By the early 70's., many were just a nicely loaded used car. Some people might have raced these, some might have yanked an engine for another car or boat, some might have robbed some cool options off of one sitting in a wrecking yard somewhere before it got crushed...

As always Im one number short. My build sheet says LS5 not 6 on it also says its a Z15 not a 16.
Ohh well whats he difference 200k ?????

Do you believe EVERYTHING you read? :D Thats exactly how these "wives tales" get started...


That is why I'm asking! I don't mean to start anything.

But anyways, I guess no one will ever know either way. Unless it just pops out of nowhere some day. Would be awesome it there was one.

Who claims to have ridden in one?

That is why I'm asking! I don't mean to start anything. Sorry, didn't mean to imply YOU were really starting something, just the basic concept; some hears or reads something (especially in a book or magazine), and thinks it must be true because I read the article... Just saying to be cautious, and take everything with a grain-of-salt... I don't know it all, but over the years I have seen numerous articles often contradicting other sources, and sometimes even what i have observed...

I was also "teasing" you a bit (notice the Smiley right after my initial comment)...

Naturally, no one knows if any or all these "stories" are real, made up, embellished, or just altered naturally over the years...



Who claims to have ridden in one? I think it was "T-man" (but its been a few years since it was brought up)

....<snip>....

Remember this, no matter how many people use the internet, and how many "Chevelle" lovers come to this website, there are probably far more "Chevelle" people that have never seen this site. There are many people that don't know B-J auctions from a hole in the ground.


I tell someone at least once a week about this site and give them the URL.
They all say that they never heard of Team Chevelle, many Chevelle enthusiasts don't even get on the computer and do the internet (YET)

I tell someone at least once a week about this site and give them the URL.
They all say that they never heard of Team Chevelle, many Chevelle enthusiasts don't even get on the computer and do the internet (YET)
I want to meet all the guys they're buying parts from then!!!!!

Here is the post from 1999 about the Z16 convertible. Now get out there and FIND IT !!

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1636

This thread is kind of interesting too:

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-82450.html

I tell someone at least once a week about this site and give them the URL.
They all say that they never heard of Team Chevelle, many Chevelle enthusiasts don't even get on the computer and do the internet (YET)

I have a good friend that bought a '66 a few years ago (he had one in the 70's, and when he saw mine, he went looking again). I helped him look it over before buying, and I lent him some catalogs to look for parts and prices... then i help do some repair and detail stuff (he's not really "mechanical", but almost at retirement age, he wants to learn)...

He found the car locally (his son saw it parked with a for sale sign). I took him to a big swap meet, and showed him the catalogs...

I told him about this site, but I don't think he even has a home computer...

Although its probably for the best... This site is so damn addictive... :D

It actually seems like the majority of "Chevelle" owners I meet at shows or around town, have never heard of this site (until I bring it up)...

Sorry, didn't mean to imply YOU were really starting something, just the basic concept;

I was also "teasing" you a bit (notice the Smiley right after my initial comment)...


OH, oh, oh, OK. No problem here, I don't mind some teasing once in a while. ;) :)



[The owners name is Terry Zapolski from Detroit MI.]

Oh, wow, that article even had the guys name. If that was his name & if he did have it, he probably sold it after years of phone calls and knocks on his door!