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74540
May 29th, 07, 1:17 AM
Are any shop modifying the new Allison 6 speed to hold say 600 rwhp from a BBC.

novaderrik
May 29th, 07, 1:56 AM
isn't that a big truck trans?

_Bear_
May 29th, 07, 1:58 AM
Suncoast or B&D are building them to hold 600 to 800 HP. If you want a performance trany, you are barking up the wrong tree.

Wally
May 29th, 07, 8:55 AM
New Allison 1000 Transmission Offers Six-Speed Performance and Range Selection Mode

First-in-class six-speed automatic transmission with two overdrive gears
Engine speed reduced by 250 rpm at 60 mph
Enables improved fuel mileage and range
First-in-class tap-shift range-selection feature allows driver to easily select desired gears for greater control
Part of GM’s rollout of 10 six-speed automatic transmission variants by the end of the decade PONTIAC , MICH. – The Allison 1000 transmission grows from a five-speed automatic to a first-in-class six-speed automatic for the 2006 Chevrolet Silverado HD and GMC Sierra HD trucks equipped with the Duramax 6600 6.6L V-8 diesel or Vortec 8100 8.1L V-8. Also new for 2006, the Allison 1000 six-speed features a class-first tap-shift range selection function, as well as offering enhanced fuel mileage, quietness and control. The range selection function allows the driver to easily select the desired gears to match driving conditions, such as towing a trailer on a steep grade.
“Changes to the Allison 1000 represent a ‘best of all worlds’ scenario,” said Kevin Wayman, Allison 1000 chief engineer. “Performance, quietness and fuel mileage are all enhanced without degradation to product durability.”
The sixth gear – essentially a second overdrive gear – enables a wide, 5.08:1 overall forward gear ratio coverage and allows the vehicle’s engine to operate at lower rpm, particularly during higher-speed driving on highways and freeways. Its 0.61 ratio sixth gear provides a 1550-rpm engine speed at 60 mph, compared with the five-speed transmission’s 1800-rpm engine speed at 60 mph. The engine uses less fuel at lower rpm, enabling increased fuel mileage and range. The ratios of gears 1 through 5 remain the same as the Allison 1000 five-speed, including the 0.71:1 fifth gear.
A tow/haul mode is retained on the Allison 1000 six-speed, but it is complemented by a new range selection feature. It allows the driver to select the desired gears, via a thumb-activated switch on the shifter, providing a feeling of enhanced control in unique driving situations, such as towing on a steep grade. The range selection feature holds the gear pre-selected by the driver and electronic safeguards prevent the transmission from being shifted in a manner that could cause engine damage or loss of vehicle control. Grade braking and cruise grade braking are only available when the tow/haul mode is selected and the transmission is not in the range selection mode.
Diesel-engine vehicles equipped with the Allison 1000 six-speed feature cruise control grade braking. Working in harmony with the tow/haul mode, the cruise grade braking system will automatically downshift to help maintain the pre-selected cruise speed when driving on downhill grades.
A new low-traction mode also is standard on vehicles equipped with the diesel engine. When the driver selects second gear while stopped and wheel slip occurs, the transmission torque-manages the engine to limit tire slip on slippery road surfaces.
In addition to the sixth gear and range selection feature, the Allison 1000 also benefits from complementary upgrades that include:

Upgraded 310-mm torque converter that improves torque capacity
New 22-tooth pump that improves NVH
New solenoids provide better converter lock-up control and shift feel
Upgraded rotating clutch that improves torque capacity
New A40, 32-bit transmission control module The Allison 1000 also has a unique, GM-patented elevated idle mode, which allows for faster interior warm-up of diesel-equipped vehicles. The system, which is activated through the vehicle’s driver information center, is synchronized with the engine. When elevated idle is active, the transmission increases the load on the engine so that it will generate heat more quickly and warm the interior in less time.
In 2004, GM Powertrain announced plans to introduce 10 six-speed automatic transmissions globally by the end of the decade. The introduction of the new Allison 1000 six-speed automatic is another step towards realizing that goal.
Allison 1000 Series Specifications (MW7)
Type: Six-speed rear-wheel-drive, electronically controlled, automatic overdrive transmission with torque converter clutch Engine range: 6.6L - 8.1L Maximum engine torque: 650 lb-ft Maximum gearbox torque: 900 lb-ft Gear ratios: First: 3.10 Second: 1.81 Third: 1.41 Fourth: 1.00 Fifth: 0.71 Sixth 0.61 Reverse: 4.49 Maximum shift speed: 4850 rpm Maximum validated gross vehicle weight: GVW
12000 lb – 3600 series
11400 – 3500 dually series
9900 – 3500 non-dually series
9200 – 2500 HD series GCW
23500 lb – 3500 dually, 3600 series (6.6L Duramax)
22000 lb – 3500 dually (8.1L), 3600 (8.1L), 3500 non-dually (6.6L Duramax, 8.1L)
6-position quadrant: P, R, N, D, M, 1 Case material: die cast aluminum Shift pattern: (2) two-way on/off solenoids Shift quality: force motor control / adaptive shifts Torque converter clutch: Variable Bleed Solenoid Control Converter size: 310mm (diameter of torque converter turbine) Fluid type: DEXRON® VI Transmission weight: dry: 150 kg (330 lb) Fluid capacity (approximate): shallow pan: 12L (13 qt.) (dry) Power take off: provision available Pressure taps available: main pressure Assembly sites: Baltimore , Md. Additional features: Tap-shift range selection mode; elevated idle mode; low traction mode; shift stabilization; tow/haul; grade braking Applications: 2006 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra 2500HD and 3500
Serious mods to this trans would be needed to work in a car, shift rpm for starters, and by the time you cut the middle of the car out to make it fit, made a shifter, and all the other electronic features it has and you don't, it adds 330 pounds dry plus all that fluid:noway: :noway: :noway:

This is way over the top, I don't think it will bolt to a rat, it's made for the Duramax V8 Diesel.

animal69
May 29th, 07, 11:36 AM
It's a great transmission behind a Duramax in a big pickup, but I wouldn't want one in a car. This thing is huge!

74540
May 29th, 07, 3:38 PM
Why don't they use this in cars with big power? Seems like it would be like the new 6-speed vette tranny just stronger.

Robinls5
May 30th, 07, 6:31 PM
Have you ever seen an Allison sitting on the floor, It looks like a 55 gal. oil drum with a taper on one end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very large and very heavy
Bob

Philip
May 30th, 07, 6:49 PM
My 06 Sierra has one and it is fantastic. When going thru west Texas in Feb towing the 67 El Camino I set the cruise at 85 mph and it stayed right at 85 both up and down hills. It also averaged over 15 mpg on a 4800 mile trip to Tampa and back. I have to agree it is way to large to put in a car. Next time you walk by a 2500HD with a Duramax look at the size of the trans tunnel and you will see what it would take to get one in a Chevelle.

74540
May 31st, 07, 12:45 AM
Have you ever seen an Allison sitting on the floor, It looks like a 55 gal. oil drum with a taper on one end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very large and very heavy
Bob
I talked to a couple of people and they said the same thing you did. Reading about it online made it sound ok. I haven't seen one up close but I guess it's way too big for anything but a truck. Looks like a modified 4L80E is going to be the ticket.

Wally
May 31st, 07, 8:38 AM
My 06 Sierra has one and it is fantastic. When going thru west Texas in Feb towing the 67 El Camino I set the cruise at 85 mph and it stayed right at 85 both up and down hills. It also averaged over 15 mpg on a 4800 mile trip to Tampa and back. I have to agree it is way to large to put in a car. Next time you walk by a 2500HD with a Duramax look at the size of the trans tunnel and you will see what it would take to get one in a Chevelle.

I have the 5 speed version in my 03 Silverado 2500HD Duramax. It's 2 wheel drive, no illusions about off road nonsense, it gets 19 towing the 67 and empty it will get as much as 24 if I drive like I have some sense, did I mention it has a 3.73 rear? Truck weighs nearly 7000 pounds empty!

74540
Jun 1st, 07, 1:04 AM
Finally got a picture of an Allison 6 speed next to a 4L80E
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k183/philntx/Misc/163_0412_duramaxpart103_z.jpg

70 SS LS-5
Jun 1st, 07, 1:59 PM
Yep, a 4l80/85e will handle that much power no problem at all.

jakeshoe
Jun 1st, 07, 2:33 PM
The blue trans pictured is not a 4L80E, it is a 700-R4.