I love when people buy cars just to flip them and they can't even wait until they get it off the trailer to take the pics after buying it and getting it home.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Chevelle-1970-Chevelle-SS-396-Buckets-Console-BUILD-SHEET_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6164QQihZ009QQite mZ190112041491QQrdZ1

Gotta love it! Just an observation that the motor most recently in the car was probably a 454 judging by the fender emblems and the allegedly correct build sheet (396).

I didn't even notice that....

i have a 1970 chevelle convertible the tag reads ST70-13667 BL 00275
TR 791 75A
12B 346892 080468
has a 396 with 4 spd how can i tell if it is orininal.:beers:

i have a 1970 chevelle convertible the tag reads ST70-13667 BL 00275
TR 791 75A
12B 346892 080468
has a 396 with 4 spd how can i tell if it is orininal.:beers:


Welcome to th site. You can't tell if your car is an SS from the VIN or trim tag. The only to be sure is with documentation. You need a built sheet, POP, original window sticker or the matching numbers engine. If it is a Canadian built or sold new car you can get papers on it.
James

hmmm..good car to drop a running big block/TH400 into and drive it as is ;)
Looks like an awesome project car IMHO

That's alright!!!!

This is what I find interesting about this auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190094679747

This is what I find interesting about this auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190094679747

They do look the same. But the SOLD car is a Van Nuys car, and the FOR SALE car is a Atlanta car.
He bought a car off E-bay about a year ago then left this Neg feedback. Misrepresented car as LS-5, Then tried to pass off bogus build sheet to cover up
I wonder if this is the same car?????

This is what I find interesting about this auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190094679747
Yes that was his last sale, must like the color:yes: He did not seem to misrepresent anything in that sale.

To me when a guy buys a car, it is his to do with what he pleases. If he wants to keep it forever or sell it in 5 minutes it's fine with me because he paid an agreed price for it and it's HIS!

You all are opening up a can of worms.
This car http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190094679747
Was bought by a TC member (Friend of mine) and turned out to be a very good buy. Iam sure Mike will see this thread soon enough...
You guys need to be carefull on how fast you pass judgement of people so fast.

How is it known that the car in the original post is getting flipped? I must have missed something.

I happen to know the seller of both of these cars and you won't find a more honest, hard working stand up guy. I bought the 2nd car in this thread a month and a half ago for the BIN price. The seller and his Dad own several very nice Chevelles. They buy, sell, and sometimes restore them. The difference in the 2 cars is blatantly obvious and anyone that can't see that needs to go get their eyes checked. As for the original poster, since when did flipping anything become a crime? People have been flipping real estate, boats, cars and anything else they can get their hands on, since the begining of time. As far as I'm concerned, this seller is doing someone who's looking for a good solid car to restore a favor. He took the time to dig it out of someones' barn or backyard, dragged it home and made it available for someone to buy and restore. If he makes a grand or 2, what's the big deal? Here's a few pictures of the 2nd car that I bought from him, I think you should be able to see the difference in the 2 cars.

If you look at both cars they end the same day so it is obvious they are not the same car. I was just saying it was interesting that he has two cars for sale that are so similiar.

If you look at both cars they end the same day so it is obvious they are not the same car. I was just saying it was interesting that he has two cars for sale that are so similiar.
Take a quick look again at the end dates, one is March 20 and the other is May 20, it's an thing easy to overlook.

I guess them northren boys liked the green color ss cars, LOL

one has white stripes one black stripes. Who cares if they flip cars.... We all have to make a living right???

I also think there is nothing wrong with flipping cars.You can make a little money and someone gets a car they want. And I see that Mike is going to try and flip his car,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/70-Chevelle-SS-454-4-Speed-C-I-Driver_W0QQitemZ120117170178QQihZ002QQcategoryZ616 4QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Good luck http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/7.gif

Paul

I also think there is nothing wrong with flipping cars.You can make a little money and someone gets a car they want. And I see that Mike is going to try and flip his car,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/70-Chevelle-SS-454-4-Speed-C-I-Driver_W0QQitemZ120117170178QQihZ002QQcategoryZ616 4QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Good luck http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/7.gif

Paul
I don't really think I'm going to sell this car at the present time. I put it on e-bay to try and get a sence of what the real market is for these cars. I've had around 5 offers for it, all being pretty close to what I think it's worth. I'm getting ready to put another 4-5K into this car and I just want to make sure I don't go too far upside down on it. I'm going to finish the A/C, rip out the green bench interior and convert it to a white bucket console car. I think it will give it a whole different look.

I also think there is nothing wrong with flipping cars.You can make a little money and someone gets a car they want. And I see that Mike is going to try and flip his car,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/70-Chevelle-SS-454-4-Speed-C-I-Driver_W0QQitemZ120117170178QQihZ002QQcategoryZ616 4QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Good luck http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/7.gif

Paul

I have flipped a few cars, plenty of parts, and I highly recommend it. When I moved to Va. I had 2 cars - Suburban and my '67 Fairlane. When I left less than a year later, I had 8 cars, and had bought and sold a few, too.

I pulled a '73 TA out of the woods and sold it w/o taking it off the trailer. Sold a '72 SS 454 4 sp Chevelle 2 weeks after buying it. Bought two garages full of parts; kept what I needed, and sold the rest.

The way I see it, everyone wins - the sellers got $$$ for cars that were languishing in garages, in the woods, etc. Buyers got what they were looking for, with no hard feelings (perfect e-bay feedback and stand by what I sell), and I made some money "on the side" that allowed me to pick up a few "free" cars.

Only downside is that I'm stuck in Iraq until next year, all the cars are in mini-storage, and no one is working on them!

Scott

Nothing wrong with flipping cars......it helps drive up the value so folks can sit and cry how the prices are too high. :)

I should try it with my 69 ss vert and see what other people are willing to pay for my car??? What do you think Mike should I ?

I should try it with my 69 ss vert and see what other people are willing to pay for my car??? What do you think Mike should I ?
I'll give you 5,796.00 US dollars for it!!!! CASH!!!!!:beers:

I'll give you 5,796.00 US dollars for it!!!! CASH!!!!!:beers: Bring me CASH:D

It's the same around here. If you make a buck selling cars, people don't like you. Better start hating the grocery store owners, body shop owners, Lumber yard owners. They are making a living too. The dealers that I know, run all over the country finding cars to sell. It isn't all profit. Just try running around finding yourself a car and see how much time and money you spend before finding what you want. Been there, and no, I'm not a dealer.

never mind...........gee........never said it was illegal or wrong to flip.....just thought it was funny that the car was still on the trailer when he took the pics. Sorta like getting remarried before the ink is dry from signing divorce papers.
I can see responses from this post.......what's wrong with getting a divorce?.......or remarried?........no one said there is a waiting period

Although we have drifted from the original topic,flipping chevelles, we have touched on something that should be discussed.

E-Bay has gone from being an auction site to a place where buyers and sellers just jerk each other around. It has lost most of its credibility and a guy who is just trying to honestly sell his car is placed into unfair scrutiny because of the actions of others. Mike is a perfect example.

In his own admission he has no intention of selling his car but just used E-Bay as a way to appraise it. Unless I am mistaken we have discussed this car before and after he bought it, giving him our thumbs up, and wishing him luck. Evidently he now is not happy with the car as he is questioning what he paid for the car and is totally dissatisfied with the interior seats and color.
All of that is fine but why waste the time of the people bidding and the ones who called and made offers. Little does he know he lost credibility too.

The "car detectives" who surf this site will spot it the next time he tries to sell his car and after a good raking over the coals the car will probably receive less attention than the first time. There is so much distrust out there now that very few cars meet reserve and everyone is assumed guilty.

If this car is represented as the trim tag states doing a radical change may devalue it more than the money invested. Should the car not be what you want do what we all have to do at some point: Bite the bullet. If you buy a lot of cars like I do it won't be the last time it happens. I thought you had bought a nice car and you have had it only a short time. It may turn out to be a better value than the next one.

My point: There are better ways to work your way through this than wasting others time on E-Bay.

Although we have drifted from the original topic,flipping chevelles, we have touched on something that should be discussed.

E-Bay has gone from being an auction site to a place where buyers and sellers just jerk each other around. It has lost most of its credibility and a guy who is just trying to honestly sell his car is placed into unfair scrutiny because of the actions of others. Mike is a perfect example.

In his own admission he has no intention of selling his car but just used E-Bay as a way to appraise it. Unless I am mistaken we have discussed this car before and after he bought it, giving him our thumbs up, and wishing him luck. Evidently he now is not happy with the car as he is questioning what he paid for the car and is totally dissatisfied with the interior seats and color.
All of that is fine but why waste the time of the people bidding and the ones who called and made offers. Little does he know he lost credibility too.

The "car detectives" who surf this site will spot it the next time he tries to sell his car and after a good raking over the coals the car will probably receive less attention than the first time. There is so much distrust out there now that very few cars meet reserve and everyone is assumed guilty.

If this car is represented as the trim tag states doing a radical change may devalue it more than the money invested. Should the car not be what you want do what we all have to do at some point: Bite the bullet. If you buy a lot of cars like I do it won't be the last time it happens. I thought you had bought a nice car and you have had it only a short time. It may turn out to be a better value than the next one.

My point: There are better ways to work your way through this than wasting others time on E-Bay.
This car had been on E-Bay for a week and if I had recieved what I thought was a good offer for it, it would be gone. As for being unhappy with the car, I think it's a good car, in great shape, as the previous owner did a very nice job on it. Everyone is entitled to their own personal preferences when it comes to colors and dark green just doesn't happen to be one of mine. Yet, it didn't stop me from buying it. Do I think a white bucket console interior would enhance this cars desireabilty? Absolutely. I certainly didn't put this car up for sale to waste anyones' time, it was for sale from day one for the right price. It seems to me that E-Bay is being used by many sellers as nothing more than a marketing tool as they have great exposure. How many times have you seen the same car re-listed week after week, for months on end? I've called on my fair share of cars on E-Bay as well, I don't really look at a 5 minute phone call as a great waste of my time. No one made me call, and if your looking to buy something that's what you have to do. I don't buy and sell many cars at all and I'm just trying to be smart about what I do with this car. As for credibility, I'll stand behind mine all day.

Mike is a perfect example.
Little does he know he lost credibility too.


Just curious as to why you would say Mike has lost credibility?? I think the what he did was a pretty smart thing to do.... I'd like to know what somethings worth before I dump a bunch of money into it. As he said, I'm sure if the car had met the reserve it would have sold. As it is it did not so, where does he lose credibility?

Mike If you took what I said as a character attack I stand corrected and opologize for it but just as I probably could have done a better job in my statement to you : different wording in your statement might have left you a little less suspect. Lets look at it from a buyers perpesctive.
If I am one of the prior bidders or one who made a offer and read your statement I am going to conclude that you only used the listing to appraise the car and to buy it I will have to pay far above what the car is worth. I am going to feel that if you do not like the interior after owning only a few months I probably will not like it either. If you list it again I am not going to be interested.
You would have been better served to defend your car as you did and address the issue of the interior in another thread. Leaving any mention of trying to sell your car out might have been better also. Having all three statements together allows your intentions to be taken out of context.
I would have been better served with a different delivery of my statement
as to not offend you. If I have my apology stands.

Just curious as to why you would say Mike has lost credibility?? I think the what he did was a pretty smart thing to do.... I'd like to know what somethings worth before I dump a bunch of money into it. As he said, I'm sure if the car had met the reserve it would have sold. As it is it did not so, where does he lose credibility?

How much does it cost to have an appraisal done? Wouldn't an actual appraisal be more efficient?

Pictures are only worth a few words, and can be doctored up to make the car look good, yet up close you reveal blemishes in the paint and body and other things not normally seen in the pictures.

No harm John, as we're all very passionate about these cars. I haven't bought a 70 SS in a very, very long time. I actually like this car a lot, and I'm not really sure what the ACTUAL market value is these days. I THINK I bought this car right, but I bought it with a BIN price with the push of a button. It needed a few things in my mind to upgrade it and I've spent a few dollars on it already. I put it on E-Bay to test the waters OR sell it, before I put another good chunk of change in it. I just don't won't to go too far upside down on it, as I'm sure a lot of our friends are on these cars. The offers I had on the car were within 2-3K of what I think the car is worth. I'm not a fan of the green interiors, no disrespect meant to those that have them, it's just personal preference. Most of the calls I had on this car were from dealers looking to buy it and roll it over, so I don't think I'm in too bad a place here. I think if I do the interior to a white bucket seat console car I might never sell it, as it will look totally different, but then again you never know, other things always come along. Just my .02 on this car. P.S., Junkyard D, I always value your opinion but I don't think an appraisers' value is worth the paper it's written on, unless it's for insurance purposes. I'm dealing in real life with this car and I just want to make the right decisions.

P.S., Junkyard D, I always value your opinion but I don't think an appraisers' value is worth the paper it's written on, unless it's for insurance purposes. I'm dealing in real life with this car and I just want to make the right decisions.

Eh....ok.

I had always thought an appraisal would be money better spent, but I think I see what you mean....I've heard the stories of the appraiser that give a low rating to that really nice pristine Oldsmobile, simply because the appraiser was a die hard Ford guy.