: UDHarold, spring help with Lunati cam
blumont Nov 8th, 04, 9:26 AM Harold, on your 401A6LUN cam, you said springs should be 130 seat, 330-350 over the nose. I am being told by my machinist that I shouldn't go over 120 seat and 280-300 maximum over the nose for a street ride.BTW this is for a sbc 400. Which way should I go with the springs?
Thanks
427L88 Nov 8th, 04, 9:42 AM Hey Jerry, I did check the Crane website for the spring specs on the sbc version of the F304 solid I ran ( after I replied to your email), and as I suspected, likely due to the better geometry and reduced sbc rocker ratio, the recomended spring pressures are only 120/296, not the 120/325 recommended for the bbc version.
Not speaking for Harold, but fwiw, methinks your machinist is correct.
blumont Nov 8th, 04, 9:47 AM Thanks Gene, appreciate you taking the time to check that out for me
Thanks again
427L88 Nov 8th, 04, 9:55 AM Jerry, also checked the recommended Lunati spring, the 73100, is also 120/300 at .600 lift, so you'd come in under 300.
Sorry if I recommended the heavier spring ASSUMING it was a rat and causing you some consternation. My day job revolves around REMOVING consternation around complex decisions.
Anyway, I happened to check as I watched my Bears beat up the Giants! graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Better get back to my day job.... :eek:
Wolfplace Nov 8th, 04, 1:19 PM Jerry,
The reason for more spring on a Rat is simply because of the weight of the parts you are controlling & the velocity of those parts with more rocker ratio, especially the valve, valve side of the rocker, retainer & spring.
In reality you have a lot less load on the cam with a small block than a big block with the same spring. 1.7 X 350lbs is more than 1,5 x 350.
As for seat pressure, a little more is in my opinion within reason not a primary concern as this is not what kills cams & is what insures the valve seats & doesn't bounce as badly.
You can run 120/300 more safely in a small block but again 130/330 is less load in a SB than a BB at the cam,, and also not to answer for Harold but I think his primary concern is that the valves follow his lobes as intended without killing them ;)
BTW, the spring also kind of depends on the RPM intended.
Bottom line, I feel either spring package will work quite well for a street deal but would lean towards the heavier of the two if you are going to be leaning on the right side pedal in a heavy fashion as that cam is capable of RPM'ing very well in a small block :D
If you are planning on 5500-6000 that's one thing but if your plans are for 6500+ ,,,,,
blumont Nov 8th, 04, 6:06 PM thanks for the info Mike. I am learning more every day. If I can just get some of this stuff to stay in my head long enough to get this motor built smile.gif
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