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: '68 Ss Vert,69 Look Alike


kudajones
Apr 29th, 07, 9:16 AM
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/chevelle-8.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/chevelle-1.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/chevelle.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/chevelle-3.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/chevelle-5.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/chevelle-2.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/4-17-07009.jpg I JUST PICKED IT UP FROM MY BROTHERS IN MI.

HERE IS WHAT I HAVE, IT IS A '68 SS VERT VIN # 138678XXXXXX.
NOTHING ABOUT IT IS ORIGINAL..69 FENDERS,DOORS,QUARTERS ETC, CUSTOM INTERIOR..SOMEONE WANTED A '69 VERT BAD!!

IT HAS A 396 4 SPEED WITH A 12 BOLT

RUNS AND DRIVES GREAT,POWER TOP WORKS GREAT.

JUST PUT A NEW CLUTCH IN IT YESTERDAY{THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS} BODY IS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, WILL NEED SOME WORK THOUGH..FLOORS AND TRUNK ARE IN GOOD SHAPE

I'M TRYING TO GET AN IDEA WHAT IT IS WORTH, THINKING ABOUT SELLING OR TRADING

ANY IDEAS?????


THANKS

ED

wambams69ss396
Apr 29th, 07, 11:29 PM
you say you just picked it up how much did you pay?

bc69ss
Apr 29th, 07, 11:36 PM
depends on what kind of shape everything is in. 15-25 grand... Hard to say without knowing more about it. If someone wanted to make it a 68' again they would have to spend alot of money.

ss1970chev454
Apr 30th, 07, 12:20 AM
Kuda

you have mail

JWA
Apr 30th, 07, 2:04 AM
I say it would be on the low end of the scale, around $10k due to all the rust in the lower sections of the body. It does still have the 68 instrument bezel. At least some one could put it back to a 68 with the new quarters and fenders it probably needs. That car is a serious project even being a "driver".

bc69ss
Apr 30th, 07, 2:14 AM
I say it would be on the low end of the scale, around $10k due to all the rust in the lower sections of the body. I does still have the 68 instrument bezel. At least some one could put it back to a 68 with the new quarters and fenders it probably needs. That car is a serious project even being a "driver".

Jeff have you seen more pictures of the car? I can't see any rust on it from the one pic??

bc69ss
Apr 30th, 07, 2:15 AM
Ed, If you wanna sell it for 10 I'd buy it.

JWA
Apr 30th, 07, 2:17 AM
yep :D


If a pic is posted on the forums and it is from photobucket or such, you can usually backtrack to the album and see what other pics are there.

kudajones
Apr 30th, 07, 6:59 AM
I Will Shoot Some Better Pics This Evening, It Has Rust On The Pass. Side Front Fender And Quarter,driver Side Looks Pretty Good,as Stated The Trunk And Floors Are Pretty Solid,frame Looks Good.

I Bought It From My Brother, I Have Just Under 10k In It..i Guess I Did Not Realize How Much It Will Cost To Go Through It And Restore It..the Wife Is Giving Me Hell!!!! Over It,

I Could Not Even Think About Going Back To Orig. No Way I Could Afford It And Stay Married

I May Post It For 11k Or Trade For A Camaro Or ??

I Have Not Decided Yet

DRIVER155
Apr 30th, 07, 8:30 AM
Hey Kuda , check your pm's . Thanks

ss1970chev454
Apr 30th, 07, 8:41 AM
If you sell, you better ask way more than 11K!

If you keep (which you should instead of buying a Camaro!) leave it the way it is. Who cares if it's hybrid. Keep it, drive it (with the top down) and most important...enjoy it!

Dean
Apr 30th, 07, 10:01 AM
I bet it would bring well over 15K on ebay, rust and all.
138 convertibles are getting very hard to find.

Is the 396 original?

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/

kudajones
Apr 30th, 07, 6:45 PM
no, it's not the orig. engine or trans, not sure what year the 396 is,but the tranny is a m20 from around '65...

,i can't give the time and cash it needs to do this project

,what i'm going to do is ,get into something that doesn't need that much,don't get me wrong,the chevelle is a real head turner,i love driving it ! just can't give it what it needs

her are some more pics, they show the bad spots on the car

DRIVER155
Apr 30th, 07, 7:29 PM
Hey Kuda , how far are you from Nashville , Tenn. ? Thanks , Richard

kudajones
Apr 30th, 07, 7:54 PM
Hello,
I'm In Western North Carolina...i Would Guess,5 Hours

Brettd85
Apr 30th, 07, 8:39 PM
I agree, worth more than $11k.

ss1970chev454
Apr 30th, 07, 9:36 PM
That's a tough call. But I would say min. of 15K maybe a tad more.

Did you find out if the engine, trans, rearend or anything else is original to the car?

Could help the value if they were.

You could ebay it. But if it was me I'd keep it. everybodies got a camaro! Be different, drive a chevelle!

Can you post the Cowl tag info. so we can see when and where it was built?

glennslanaker
May 1st, 07, 11:27 AM
i agree with others, don't go selling it short. $11k is a 5 years ago price, probably about $14-16k. maybe a bit more if it's a factory 4 speed and has solid frame, floors and trunk.

kudajones
May 1st, 07, 5:34 PM
ok,

Looks Like I'm Going To Hand On To It For A While

Anyone Have Any Info In Npd Panel Quality??

Fenders And Quarters

Thanks For All The Input

Ed

JWA
May 1st, 07, 10:59 PM
Ed,
You know something still bothers me about your car. No offense intended but somebody went through a lot of work to transplant all the panels. I suspect more than likely that the body is a transplant and the VIN has been swapped. I hope for your sake it isn't. I also think the values been suggested above are ignoring the fact that this car would always have a questionable heritage unless the 68 stuff was put back on it.

Don't get me wrong. I think the car has a lot of potential. To really get the value though, it needs to be looking like a 68. The problem with that is by the time you put the $$ into "fixing it" you could have gotten a much better candidate to start with. Good Luck with your quest to restore it. I hope you have access to a great bodyman.

BTW It looks like NPD still has GM fenders. I recommend you get those if you can afford it. The other stuff is probably the same repro stuff all the shops sell and they usually need some work to get them to fit. Best of luck with your project. :)

djw
May 1st, 07, 11:51 PM
......but somebody went through a lot of work to transplant all the panels........

Plus the bumpers and doors! (Lock pull location plus no vent windows) The only thing visible on that car to me that says 1968 is the dash.

bc69ss
May 2nd, 07, 12:29 AM
After seeing the rest of the pics. I would say 15k would be tops for the car. I like the power seat! I agree that either somebody transplanted vins or went to a ton of trouble to convert this thing over! Any pics. of the vin and trim tag?

kudajones
May 2nd, 07, 7:17 AM
here is a pic of the vin tag, i'm told the '68 model does not have vents in the door jam too..is this true? this car does not. i am going to pull the heater box this week as soon as i find time.

i agree with you jeff, that bothers me too ,the vin does not appeared to be tampered with..i guess i will know for sure when i get that heater box off

the fact of the matter is, i don't have a great deal of money it it, the car looks good and is fun to drive

if it costs me a few thousand to fix it up a little, then so be it...with me owning it, it will never be the way it was orig... i don't have that kind of money and time to put into it


i will keep you all posted on the results of the heater box

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/chevelle-11.jpg

JWA
May 2nd, 07, 9:02 AM
Ed,
Does the car have trim tag on it still showing it to be a Baltimore built car as indicated by the B in the VIN. Another item to check is the body behind the tail light assemblies. Since the 68 had smaller (and much better looking :D ) tail lights, the opening where the assembly rests in the body is rectangular in shape. On a 69 the opening behind the assembly is larger and more of an oval shape. I am not a 100% sure if the opening is part of the quarter panel or tail panel though, so if they did indeed swap to 69 panels that might not show any more indication of the originality on the body either. Possibly though if they just modified the 68 quarter to work you could see that the rectangular opening for the tail light assembly was modified to fit the 69 assemblies. since it is in the trunk area and out of sight I doubt they would make it a very pretty modification. here is a pic of a 69 tail light opening in the body:

http://i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/9a/f9/bf58_12.JPG


Next I beleive you are correct the body would have a vent on the door jamb opening in 69 that 68 did not have which is another clue that the quarters might just be modified 68's. One more peice to the puzzle :)

I think you have a good attitude towards the car and keeping the fun aspect part of it will keep it enjoyable. Good Luck :thumbsup:

ss1970chev454
May 2nd, 07, 1:06 PM
How about a pic of the cowl tag?

Build date. etc.

Glad you decided to stay with the chevelle.

Mr69
May 2nd, 07, 3:59 PM
I Will Shoot Some Better Pics This Evening, It Has Rust On The Pass. Side Front Fender And Quarter,driver Side Looks Pretty Good,as Stated The Trunk And Floors Are Pretty Solid,frame Looks Good.

I Bought It From My Brother, I Have Just Under 10k In It..i Guess I Did Not Realize How Much It Will Cost To Go Through It And Restore It..the Wife Is Giving Me Hell!!!! Over It,

I Could Not Even Think About Going Back To Orig. No Way I Could Afford It And Stay Married

I May Post It For 11k Or Trade For A Camaro Or ??

I Have Not Decided Yet

If my wife gave me hell over buying a car, I kick her to the curb.

kudajones
May 2nd, 07, 5:39 PM
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/chevelle-12.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/kudajones/chevelle-13.jpg

no cowl tag,whoever did this car, i would guess well over 20 years ago, did a frame off,or at least partial frame off,the engine bay was completely redone,i'm still looking

anyone know what i have to do to remove the heater box cover{do i jave to remove the inner fender like on a camaro????

Dean
May 2nd, 07, 5:55 PM
I have no idea if 68's are the same or not but on my 70 you would only need to remove the blower motor to see the con VIN.
Some say their cars did not have anything under the plenum.

ss1970chev454
May 8th, 07, 6:28 PM
68's are the same as 70's.

On the heater box there are 7 or 8 studs protruding thru the firewall into the engine compartment. You just about half to pull the rt. inner out to get to the outer most studs. And you will need a replacement gasket.

good luck

Alwhite00
May 8th, 07, 8:41 PM
Anyone think it could be a 69 vert with a 68 vin? It seems odd that someone would replace the fenders, doors & especially the 1/4's to another year. Can you see where the 1/4's have been replaced?
LK

Dean
May 8th, 07, 11:48 PM
68's are the same as 70's.

On the heater box there are 7 or 8 studs protruding thru the firewall into the engine compartment. You just about half to pull the rt. inner out to get to the outer most studs. And you will need a replacement gasket.

good luck

If they are like my 70 all you need to pull is the blower motor to see the numbers.
Mine is stamped twice but the one stamp under the motor can be seen through the hole.

red68chevL
May 10th, 07, 12:27 AM
My '68 had the vin derivative stamped in the middle of the where the AC box was in a small font,right side up. I had a '69 parts car that the vin deriv was stamped below the blower motor, upside down in a much larger font. Wish I had taken pics of these.....

glennslanaker
May 10th, 07, 5:57 PM
i'm thinking you guys are onto something, this is most likely a '69 with a '68 vin. very unlikely someone swapped out the 1/4's for '69s. plus if i'm reading correctly, the cowl tag is missing altogether? that indicates some foul play to me. as in, they didn't know enough to remove the cowl tag from the '68 and when they discovered their mistake it was gone, crushed or whatever.

why put in the '68 dash though? that's confusing.

Dean
May 10th, 07, 6:04 PM
i'm thinking you guys are onto something, this is most likely a '69 with a '68 vin. very unlikely someone swapped out the 1/4's for '69s. plus if i'm reading correctly, the cowl tag is missing altogether? that indicates some foul play to me. as in, they didn't know enough to remove the cowl tag from the '68 and when they discovered their mistake it was gone, crushed or whatever.

why put in the '68 dash though? that's confusing.

That's easy, the VIN tag is on the dash.
The dash is probably the only part that was replaced.

glennslanaker
May 11th, 07, 5:17 PM
"That's easy, the VIN tag is on the dash.
The dash is probably the only part that was replaced."

it's not part of the dash, it's attached to the metal the dash is attached to. to transfer the vin over with the dash attached you'd have to cut out a huge chunk of metal and weld in.

Dean
May 11th, 07, 5:27 PM
Not a big chore for someone with the talent.

kudajones
May 12th, 07, 7:22 AM
Both Quarters Have Been Replaced,no Vents In The Door Jams,tail Light Assem. Has Been Changed

I Still Have Not Had The Time To Check The Heater Box,the Front Fenders Have Been Changed

Someone Spent Alot Of Time Taking This Thing Apart And Repainting To Match

The Interior Is Completely Custom And Done Nicely

I Can't See Someone Putting That Much Work And Cash Into A Retag

I WILL PULL THE BLOWER MOTOR THIS WEEKEND AND WE WILL SEE WHATS UNDER THERE