Hi, was told of a 69 Chevelle while away on vacation and went to look at it..owner says he was told it was an SS. 396 long gone, has a built 350,T-400 and a 12 bolt rear end. Has a horrible black cherry paint job on it and low rider rims and tires, my stomach turned when I saw it, until I looked at the trim tag. Paint code 72 72...Car is for sale.
69-13637KAN323202
756 7272
07C 03343 L
vin 136379K471320
Tag looked good to me, rivets looked good
For the experts does the vin and body number line up ok?
Has alot of orange paint under the rubber seals and weatherstripping.
Thanks

Yep, it's within a couple hundred of mine. Same week as a matter of fact.

It does appear to be ok, however, 323XXX body numbers seem to generally fall into the 06C/D range on my list when input by VINs. Could that one be legit, it is entirely possible. The 07C range on my list has mainly 337XXX to 351XXX body numbers on their tags not in sequential order. Again it may have been held over a couple of weeks waiting a part but seems a bit long for the plant to do that with the production runs. know this might not be the best answer to hear but it is what I find in my list for 69 chevelles built in Kansas. The best thing going would be to look for and find a build sheet that would answer the questions on originality and dates. Take care Andy

Hi, was told of a 69 Chevelle ...... owner says he was told it was an SS. 396 long gone, T-400 and a 12 bolt rear end, my stomach turned when I saw it, until I looked at the trim tag. Paint code 72 72...Car is for sale.

69 - 13637 KAN 323202
756 72 72
07C 03343 L

vin 136379K471320
Tag looked good to me, rivets looked good.

The, "1971 Monte Carlo SS" and "1971 GMC Sprint SP".....
can apparently be added to the, "Leeds built cars with the [L] code, on the trim tag, list".......

1969-1972 Chevelle Super Sport....
1969-1972 El Camino Super Sport.....
1971 Monte Carlo Super Sport...............
1971 GMC Sprint SP..( special performance ).......

I've never seen, a documented 1969-1972 "Leeds built non-SS" with the [L] code....

With any of these documents,.........as proof of, factory origin..........
1.) an original buildsheet.......
2.) the original P-O-P.......
3.) the original number matching engine.....w/ partial v.i.n#.......

I've never seen,a documented 1969-1972 "Leeds built Super Sport" without the [L] code.

It is my opinion, if a 1969-1972 Chevelle/ El Camino/ Monte Carlo, "built at Leeds" does not have the [L] code, on the trim tag, the car has about 0 % chance of being, a real factory built Super Sport....

Other people, don't agree....but they have, " no real hard proof ", either.......just speculation...

Remember this is only, speculation, but if that is the "original trim tag" that came on this,
Kansas built 1969-72 Chevelle, and it has the [L] code on the factory trim tag,
I speculate that car, quiet possibly could be a, real Leeds built "Super Sport"...........Don.
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Other than the millions, of e-bay sellers claims,
of having "REAL Kansas/ Leeds built Chevelle Super Sports", that don't have the [L] code on their trim tag...

Out of possibly 30,000 original "Leeds/ Kansas factory" built 1969-1972 Chevelle'/ El Camino Super Sports, and 1971 Monte Carlo' Super Sports, there is just (1) car, that confuses me..........

I have heard of (1) legitimate Leeds/ Kansas built 1969 Chevelle SS396, claiming to be an original factory built Super Sport that does NOT have the [L] code on the trim tag, but has no buildsheet ......
but is supposedly number matching, has the protect-o-plate' and the original bill of sale...
.I've got a 69 KAN matching numbers and it has no L on the tag. I have the pop and the original bill of sale. The guy I bought it off owned it since 1979. Not saying the cowl tag has ever been changed. Andy, I'll e-mail you some pictures if you want.

The only opinion I have on this car, since I have'nt seen any factory documents, but from the picture I saw,
it appears to be, a "real nice" original lookin' 1969 Chevelle....... Don.
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Thanks for the information. I never asked about build sheet. The interior has been recovered in white so who knows if its in seats or door panels. I did take a picture of the tag,its not great but you can make out the paint codes and the "L". Car will need trunk pan,floors are good,has some bondo in usual places behind rear wheelwells,bottom of fenders. Owner is asking 12,500 more than what I think it's worth in it's condition.

The, "1971 Monte Carlo SS" and "1971 GMC Sprint SP".....
can apparently be added to the, "Leeds built cars with the [L] code, on the trim tag, list".......

1969-1972 Chevelle Super Sport....
1969-1972 El Camino Super Sport.....
1971 Monte Carlo Super Sport...............
1971 GMC Sprint SP..( special performance ).......

I've never seen, a documented 1969-1972 "Leeds built non-SS" with the [L] code....

With any of these documents,.........as proof of, factory origin..........
1.) an original buildsheet.......
2.) the original P-O-P.......
3.) the original number matching engine.....w/ partial v.i.n#.......

I've never seen,a documented 1969-1972 "Leeds built Super Sport" without the [L] code.

It is my opinion, if a 1969-1972 Chevelle/ El Camino/ Monte Carlo, "built at Leeds" does not have the [L] code, on the trim tag, the car has about 0 % chance of being, a real factory built Super Sport....

Other people, don't agree....but they have, " no real hard proof ", either.......just speculation...

Remember this is only, speculation, but if that is the "original trim tag" that came on this,
Kansas built 1969-72 Chevelle, and it has the [L] code on the factory trim tag,
I speculate that car, quiet possibly could be a, real Leeds built "Super Sport"...........Don.
__________________________________________________ _______________
__________________________________________________ _______________

Other than the millions, of e-bay sellers claims,
of having "REAL Kansas/ Leeds built Chevelle Super Sports", that don't have the [L] code on their trim tag...

Out of possibly 30,000 original "Leeds/ Kansas factory" built 1969-1972 Chevelle'/ El Camino Super Sports, and 1971 Monte Carlo' Super Sports, there is just (1) car, that confuses me..........

I have heard of (1) legitimate Leeds/ Kansas built 1969 Chevelle SS396, claiming to be an original factory built Super Sport that does NOT have the [L] code on the trim tag, but has no buildsheet ......
but is supposedly number matching, has the protect-o-plate' and the original bill of sale...
.

The only opinion I have on this car, since I have'nt seen any factory documents, but from the picture I saw,
it appears to be, a "real nice" original lookin' 1969 Chevelle....... Don.
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Any chance you could stick to one font size and color? This is very difficult to follow. Can't figure out what you're quoting and what you're stating. :wacko:

Any chance you could stick to one font size and color? This is very difficult to follow. Can't figure out what you're quoting and what you're stating. :wacko:

I was thinking the same thing.
Why so dramatic???

Any chance you could stick to one font size and color? This is very difficult to follow. Can't figure out what you're quoting and what you're stating.

I was thinking the same thing.
Why so dramatic???

..........http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/7.gif......... sure ................ this might be, easier to read .....................................Don.

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redo ........


To my knowledge, Montes weren't assembled at Kansas (Leeds) until 1971. I have buildsheets and pictures of cowl tags for '71 Monte Carlo SS cars built at Kansas, and yes they all have the "L" on the cowl tags.

The image below is one example:
http://www.pbase.com/natez/image/71373436.jpg

I've read the previous topics discussing the "L" on Kansas-built cars' cowl tags, as they pertain to SS Chevelles. I had brought this very topic up on the First Generation Monte Carlo Club forums and the response, although limited, was that all '71 built SS Montes had the "L". No responses from owners with non-SS to say one way or the other, unfortunately...~ Nate Z.

Rare 1971 GMC Sprint SP (Special Performance) Invader 454, with #'s matching motor & transmission and build sheet....This Sprint came equipped with an "Invader 454" 365 hp LS5 454, TH400 Automatic, 12-bolt 3.31 Positraction, AC, Cowl Induction, White Vinyl Top, Cruise Control, Tac and Gauges, Optional 4-spoke Steering Wheel, PDB, PS and more options..............AK1, A01, A39, A85, BW1, B81, B93, B94, C08, C60, D33, D34, D88, GY2, G80, JL2, J50, K30, LS5, M40, NK4, N40, PM7......VIN#536801K100774.....[03A]....
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TRIM TAG.....
ST 71 53680 K 701821 BDY
TR 714................26 A PNT
03A 08784.......... L ..W
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A Leeds built GMC Sprint SP with the [L].....It appears this rare 1971 GMC Sprint SP (Special Performance) "Mulsanne Blue" car came with a white vinyl top, white interior and white stripes.....
along with the KC/LEEDS [L] code, it also has the [W] code on the trim tag...very interesting..
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The, "1971 Monte Carlo SS" and "1971 GMC Sprint SP".....
can apparently be added to the, "Leeds built cars with the [L] code, on the trim tag, list".......

1969-1972 Chevelle Super Sport....
1969-1972 El Camino Super Sport.....
1971 Monte Carlo Super Sport...............
1971 GMC Sprint SP..( special performance ).......

I've never seen, a documented 1969-1972 "Leeds built non-SS" with the [L] code....

With any of these documents,.........as proof of, factory origin..........
1.) an original buildsheet.......
2.) the original P-O-P.......
3.) the original number matching engine.....w/ partial v.i.n#.......

I've never seen,a documented 1969-1972 "Leeds built Super Sport" without the [L] code.
Here is the info on my '69.
I'm really interested in the L code on the trim tag, if anyone figures out what it means.
4151
4152
It is my opinion, if a 1969-1972 Chevelle/ El Camino/ Monte Carlo, "built at Leeds" does not have the [L] code, on the trim tag, the car has about 0 % chance of being, a real factory built Super Sport....

Other people, don't agree....but they have, " no real hard proof ", either......."just pure speculation"...
There is at least one member here who has such a car, the information was forwarded to the member spreadsheeting the research. I have a copy of his cars information, but due to privacy I will not publish it.
So rest assured, not all docked SS's have the "L".

I don't think it's been proven yet that the letter "L" on KC tags is verification of the car's SS status although 99%+ of the data gathered so far seems to indicate that. Whether oddities or great faked documents but a couple have been reported here on TC from KC with no "L" on the body plate.


Remember this is only, speculation, but if the "original trim tag" that came on a,
Kansas built 1969-72 Chevelle/ El Camino/ Monte Carlo, and it has the [L] code on the factory trim tag,
I speculate that car, quiet possibly could be a, real Leeds built "Super Sport"...........Don.
__________________________________________________ _______________
__________________________________________________ _______________

Other than the millions, of e-bay sellers claims,
of having "REAL Kansas/ Leeds built Chevelle Super Sports", that don't have the [L] code on their trim tag...

Out of possibly 30,000 original "Leeds/ Kansas factory" built 1969-1972 Chevelle'/ El Camino Super Sports, and 1971 Monte Carlo' Super Sports, there is just (1) car, that confuses me..........

I have heard of (1) legitimate Leeds/ Kansas built 1969 Chevelle SS396, claiming to be an original factory built Super Sport that does NOT have the [L] code on the trim tag, but has no buildsheet ......
but is supposedly number matching, has the protect-o-plate' and the original bill of sale...
.I've got a 69 KAN matching numbers and it has no L on the tag. I have the pop and the original bill of sale. The guy I bought it off owned it since 1979. Not saying the cowl tag has ever been changed. Andy, I'll e-mail you some pictures if you want.

The only opinion I have on this car, since I have'nt seen any factory documents, but from the picture I saw,
it appears to be, a "real nice" original lookin' 1969 Chevelle ? ? ....... Don.
__________________________________________________ _____

Hi, was told of a 69 Chevelle while away on vacation and went to look at it..owner says he was told it was an SS. 396 long gone, has a built 350,T-400 and a 12 bolt rear end. Has a horrible black cherry paint job on it and low rider rims and tires, my stomach turned when I saw it, until I looked at the trim tag. Paint code 72 72...Car is for sale.
69-13637KAN323202
756 7272
07C 03343 L
vin 136379K471320
Tag looked good to me, rivets looked good
For the experts does the vin and body number line up ok?
Has alot of orange paint under the rubber seals and weatherstripping.
Thanks

I have seen this car on ebay two or three times. Last time it was on there it had a buy it now of $13500. It does look like it would need a total restoration.

That's it - much easier to follow :yes:

I too read the post some time back about the one documented SS from KC without the "L" but I can't remember if any documentation was presented - maybe someone else vouched for the car? Can't remember.

I agree that in all likelihood the "L" is a very good indication of a SS car - whether it's a signal to someone in the trim shop or body shop to treat the car to SS trim or it means it went to a different line in Fisher Body, we don't know. The one car mentioned may well have been an error and the body plate simply wasn't stamped with the "L".

Unfortunately we'll probably never know for certain until some form of paperwork shows up. :thumbsup:

Never saw it on ebay,seller never mentioned it being on there, car is in South Carolina

Chev537 I believe this is it or at least it matches your description really well.
I apologize it was actually a buy it now price of $12000. I bid $7500 on it and I was the lone bidder.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-CHEVELLE-SS_W0QQitemZ300099387549QQihZ020QQcategoryZ6164QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If this is it it will help everybody see what your referring to. I thought the tag looked a little ugly and he only shows the one side of it.

Location is even in SC too. Looks like the gas tank is even out of the car also so that rules that location out as a build sheet too.

Thats it. The pictures make the car look better than it is. I think there's alot hiding underneath. I had my wife with me when I looked at it and I told her, nice car but needs alot of work, worth 7-9000. The stripes are really bad, looks like cheap masking tape was used. In the owners defence he says he bought the car the way it sits. He knows it needs alot of work.