Friday night April 27th- Evergreen speedway in monroe is having their 1/8th mile street drag (basically just a TNT from what i've heard).

Anybody want to come up(or down) and go?

This will be my maiden run for racing my 68 454 elk... No idea what times I'm hoping for as I've never in in a 1/8th mile before...

Hoping for high to mid 13's when I eventually take it down to the 1/4 at pacific... Anyone know what that equates to in the 1/8th?

What time are they starting Ben?

That would force me to replace my bungee cord battery hold down and add a catch can for my overflow... Not that those are bad things! :D

Might be a little far for me to travel without a trailer. If I can arrange something I might give it a shot.

Nothings broke in a few weeks so im due for a good kaboom... Im game !!!!!!!!!!!

Ben,

I'm motivated by you taking your car to Monroe on the 27th! Good for you!

The trade with Darryl for other BBC goodies could be this weekend..... Local Gearhead Rick Classen is excited for me getting the 454 crank from Mike and the other stuff from Darryl. We're plotting your eventual demise at Pacific Raceways this summer. He's well briefed on my self-imposed restrictions; low-cost, 'streetable'/good manners, fair-good mpg. This is my daily driver after all!!!!! We're talking something like a 1970 LS-5 but with a modern big cam (with a .540" lift limit, the size of your ext lobe), Perf RPM A-G intake, my 1968 oval port closed chamber heads, and a very modest carb that started out as a 3310 Holley. I'll have about 10.3:1 CR with those low-dome Hyper-Es from Darryl mated to my 101cc heads. See? No big cam, no fancy parts...just a solid engine like I wanted to build for you. AND, I'm working things so I do not need a high stall torque converter....against my 'good mpg' clause. Believe me, I'm in no way considering your Elky/454 and easy mark, far from it. I'm strictly out for fun here...hope you are too. You have the upper hand with your engine already in the car....the advantage of having a crate engine!!!! You are already experimenting with your Elky too.

I'll not throw the engine together in a week or two. But "soon" happens much faster when all the parts are present! Rick is pretty darn certain that my suspension (or yours) will be the deciding factor. I gotta do my gears too. Rick is saying "Smoke 'em" will be very easy.....


I'm doing homework with Junior then out to the garage to replace the ELKY's rt rear wheel cylinder.....major seepage. Time permitting, I'll replace the dvr side tonight also. If not tonight, certainly by the weekend....

Do check thy brakes thoroughly before playing too hard with the Elky.

I need to see if I'll have the car together. Just getting ready to do the rear disc conversion, and hopefully the stage II kit. Once I get everything situated, I'll see if it's road worthy.:D

Well, i still havn't done anything with my rear suspension, and won't have time before the run, but sometime this summer it will get updated.

Basically i'm just looking to get out and see what she'll do for a baseline run without much tuning time....

I need to hustle up a catch can and fab up a battery hold down before i get up there... Might have to order one of those ugly drive shaft loops from summit or Jegs too.

I'm not worried about the brakes, its all brand new stuff, replaced last spring- but i would like to get my 3point belts installed before i run too...

guess i need to make a short to-do list for the next 2 weeks.

:-)

I smell an Elky grudge match comin'. It seems that Shelton has a couple of TNT sessions and is closer to me than Bremerton and PIR. Might have to run up there.

All you guys are making me think that I gotta go faster. Where did I put that Summit cataloge.....................................

Mark, the Shelton track just re opened last year and it's a cool place to race, just hope they have there timming equipment fixed for this year. Ben, call me if you need any help working on your elcamino. Work has been crazy for me and I have not gotten anything done on the cars, but my heater motor switch just got here today! I'll have heat now.

Mark,

Yes, friendly grudge race between myself and AHSUM Ben. This has been in the works since Ben bought that 454 HO crate engine. I've imposed a bunch of restrictions on cost, parts used, etc....just a nice, solid street performer. I could make a stone-cold screamer but I have to keep expenses down and the 454 tame enough to where excursions to Everett or Bothell won't require a Second Mortgage. I'll have the new gears and posi (3.42 looks like) in the car, break them in heading up to the Smokey Point ACES show 20 May. My current 350 is begging for a quicker gearset, relief from the 2.5 freeking 6 set I have. I plan to come up SAT afternoon, hang with Ben and the other street thugs, cruise. Might even attend the Sat Eve BBQ for the show or hang with pal Darryl in Arlington. Might end up swapping my BBC parts in Arlington for Darryl's BBC parts.

Ben,

Yes, get some good baseline numbers. Get some launching technique practice. You asked about what is a low 13 sec 1/4 mile time comperable to at a 1/8 mile track. Here ya go:
1/8 mile 8.471 = 1/4 mile 13.30
http://www.fastnuf.com/QMC.html so you have this for reference/play.
A 13.30 is a very nice time for a mostly street/cruiser car. Should my 70 Elky go faster than this with my mild 454, mild 3.42 future gears, street tires, I'd fall over with happiness!

In case you've not figured it out yet, a mild 350 in an Elky at the drags IS like getting on the freeway onramp. That healthy 454 you have will be a whole new animal.

George

In case you've not figured it out yet, a mild 350 in an Elky at the drags IS like getting on the freeway onramp. That healthy 454 you have will be a whole new animal.



LOL... I've had the 454 in there for about 8 months now... you think I havn't "Launched" on a freeway onramp at the metering tree yet? :thumbsup:

I guess since i had all those tuning problems last fall, i've never really given you my full :D :D :D from roasting tires and launching.... Suffice to say, it definitely puts a :D on my face. ESPECIALLY now that i get that posi Kick to the side when i launch :D

I hope to get a few runs in so i can work out the best launch technique... I have a feeling that i'll be required to do rolling starts if i want to avoid going up in smoke each time- but thats the fun in trying.

I need to get ahold of Daryl and find out the details of time/price etc for running up there.

Hopefully it is just like a big Test&Tune so there will be lots of runs, and not like SIR where you have to wait for each "group" to run through...

Ben,

I'd figured correctly....you've been out doing some back-street testing!
Good idea. Also good idea to make one circuit for spying Law Enforcement or road hazards before doing testing.

I'm confident that your Elky and mine for that matter should run in the 13.20-13.30 category once sorted out. Perhaps better. I can't wait for the weather to change to Summer here.

Darryl went to the Portland Swapmeet early today. I suppose next weekend or two I'll drive up there and swap 454 stuff and begin to buy/order stuff and get stuff done in prep for building the Budget 454.

I might have a line on a trailer that a fellow gearhead is willing to let me borrow so I may be in for the 27th and maybe some other weekends at Bremerton/PIR. I would also really like to run at Shelton, just to say I did it. I've never run an eighth before so that will be a new one on me. Anyone going to Monroe?

Like I do, just spend the 50.00, once or twice a year on a U-haul. An extra 10.00 bucks, and if anything goes wrong, I can just walk away.

I really should just bite the bullet and go out and get the 24' enclosed trailer that I want. Going to have to get one soon after the 1st of the year anyway so I can move.

It'd be really nice to have. It'll be awhile for me though, right now I'm waiting to hear from my tax lady:sad: I'm hoping she does better at it then I did. Buit this is the last year of Me being a small business owner.:hurray: Just unreal how hard The little guy get's hit at tax time.

BTW-
What time will this event start?
would some of you like to meet up some place local first .

I don't have all the details yet.... but i think it starts around 5pm

I will try and get the rest of the details and post em so we can start making plans.

Hey Ben any updates on times and prices? I tried their website and nothing was posted.

Man, we're all quiet lately, must be something in the air......................

Doh... Forgot. I'll e-mail my contact and get what i can.

Although... looks like I'm now out for the 27th. :(

A Too good to be true deal has come along to get my car painted, so I spent last night stripping all the chrome, door handles, etc to prepare to drop it off tomorrow. They are saying it is possible it may be done before the may 20th marysville show- but no promises.

Now back to deciding the new color....

Doh... Forgot. I'll e-mail my contact and get what i can.

Although... looks like I'm now out for the 27th. :(

A Too good to be true deal has come along to get my car painted, so I spent last night stripping all the chrome, door handles, etc to prepare to drop it off tomorrow. They are saying it is possible it may be done before the may 20th marysville show- but no promises.

Now back to deciding the new color....

What color???:confused:

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167477

Ben,

There is a green elky in this thread that's close to the racing green. I love the racing green, had a chevy pickup painted that color and I think that if its trimmed in silver, it looks AWESOME!!

here are the details on monroe i got from my contact...

Gates open 5:00-5:30 (5:30 but they normally open a few minutes early)

Tomorrow is racing there and I'll be running the welfare nova and my buddy is taking out his 67 camaro with a nasty 540 in it for a shake down.

Safety is common sense 9yes catch can and battery hold down). If it's legal for Pacific it will easily pass here.

is everyone still game for this or has the enthusiasm fizzled out?...(weather permitting of course)
I have been spending a lot of time getting my bomber ready so Im still looking forward to it

Well, the thought of going up there ZFriday has inspired me to buy a battery holddown, an overflow catch can, and a dual throttle return spring... Now I just have to install them. :D

Does anyone know if my stainless braided fuel line from the mech pump to the carb is permitted? Also, I'm running a glass fuel filter. Are these tech issues???

Thanks!

There's a limit to how much rubberhose you can have in the fuel line, if you got braided rubber hose, I think that's OK. Not sure about the fuel filter. From what I understand, tech is fairly slack at this track. If your not a HIGH SPEED all out racer, I think they just check too see if you are safe enough, that your car ain't gonna fall to pieces halfway down the track.

I'm hoping to make it, but I've been down with the crud for the last 5 day's. today's the first day I even got outta bed before noon.:sad:

To prove my point, car's been sitting out in the garage on jackstands, halfway through my rear disc conversion, with a ton of unopened Summit boxes stacked on the counter. I know I'm sick, when I can't even open a Summit box.:D

If there are a few of you going, I will try and tag along to watch and take some video clips on my digital camera...

I may give it a shot if I can get a trailer. I just changed jobs and the new one's a bitch on my time so anytime I can get out I damn sure will. I better get a catch can too, the diet coke bottle I'm using now probably won't cut it.

I plan on taking the Welfare nova out again Tomorrow. Hopefully weather holds.
Owen, who runs the drags, is usually there early so 5:00-5:30 will easily get you in the back gate.

13.30's would likely put you in Bracket 3 or 4. Saw a guy with bracket 4 on his window and a Pacific raceway dial in of 12.70 in the 1/4. Bracket 4 I believe is 7.50-7.99 in the 1/8th. Monroe, even with worse traction, is about 2-3 tenths faster than a true 1/8 mile at pacific. I'm pretty sure it's short 60 plus feet.

Good news, I told George and few others my 427 powered 69 chevelle got selected for a photo shoot to be in Randy's Ring and Pinion Calender. It's pretty photogenic but it's no show car. The paint is 18 years old now so the term "show quality" isn't there. The Shoot is the weekend after the Smokey point car show.

I should be able to show my 68 chevelle at the Smokey point show as the vinal top goes on next week followed by the windshield. Then it's done, for now. I was able to get all the chrome back on and it's looking sweet. Almost to nice for a knucklehead like me.

Oh ya,,,,,GOTAGO,,, diet coke bottle is fine as long as it's not glass. Mine is a 90W gear lube bottle in the Welfare nova.

Oh ya,,,,,GOTAGO,,, diet coke bottle is fine as long as it's not glass. Mine is a 90W gear lube bottle in the Welfare nova.

Lol, so my 40oz malt liqour bottle catch can won't cut it... damn
:-)

oh, good ...i dont feel so bad using my washer fluid res. as my overflow.

LOL I was going to do that too gilby!

I just bought a real catch can from Summit. I guess it doesn't work if I don't hook up a hose to it either.... :p

Greg

Darryl DOES use a gear oil bottle as an overflow jug on the Welfare Nova!!!!

Good to see ya postin Darryl!

I acquired more stuff for the Charity Rat today,,,,,slowly but surely. Dennis also offered up a few more things.


I have to check some new doors FRI...too good a deal to pass up, Do not need them now but needed for the eventual re-paint


Not the area for this but I want a steering column to replace the remains of the 3-on-the-tree column in my 70 Elky. I know any A-Body column, 69 and later will fit. Is this the same column as 70s Camaro. Need a floorshift column, would like tilt. All Camaros were floorshift in the 70s...

I bought one of the Summit specials, the freaking inlet is about a 16th of an inch. How you supposed to reduce the overflow of your radiator from 3/8ths to 1/16th.:confused:

So who all is going tommorow? Noway I'll get the brakes done and tested tommorow, but I'm thinking of driving down to meet some people.

Be my second trip, as I'm probably heading to Jim Greene's first thing in the morning.

I'm out the car of course, but would love to ride along with someone else, and promise to take pics and movie clips!

Greg- you think maybe you could swing by and pick me up? Give me a call and maybe we can work something out... I'll buy ya dinner or something. ;-)

Ben, you gotta break this trend.;) You've had several Elky's since I've been here, and I still haven't seen a one of em.:D

If I go, I wouldn't get there until about 7:30 or so as its 2hrs from me. Wouldn't have the car either as I couldn't swing a trailer for this weekend. I'd drive my CTD up. Who's going?

Glad to see I'm not the only cheap bastid here!!

Im definitely planning on going. would be cool to meet up with one of you guys and follow you up too.

unfortunatly Andy Woppler and his double doppler isnt telling me what i want to hear

I'll be going unless the Gods continue this dropping of clear liquid droplets from the sky. One never knows what we will have for sure so I'm crossing my fingers................
I just need to trash my slicks with some nasty warm-up burnouts and treat her to some 113 octane liquor.

If you go to Pacific raceway's Photo gallery, select drag race, then 2006 Halloween Bash. My nova is the picture in the 2nd row fifth picture doing a typical smoke-show prior to a 10 second blast.

Its still fairly dry down here in kirkland... Are people still planning to go?
If i can't catch a ride, i'll be up a little later on around 7ish. Hope to see some of you folks there!

its dry here at work (Seattle) too... Im leaving in 10 minutes to head home and get ready. Pretty much if others go then Ill go, if not Ill stay home 12 of my closest friends

well, if its not raining when i get home, i'll be going up.

I'll keep my eyes open for the chevelles (and buick, and nova!)

:)

well, if its not raining when i get home, i'll be going up.

I'll keep my eyes open for the chevelles (and buick, and nova!)

:)

Buick and Nova should be there. I unfortunately am stuck with Daddy duties and will be hanging out with my 12 buddies too.

I have never been there and im directionally challenged... who can I follow up

Just got home from Jim Grene's, got all my parts to finish the conversion. My son has a school dance tonite, so I gotta take him, plus it's pouring down rain outside.

huh, guess i was the only one to go.

im a rookie and this was my first time at a track

1st run
RT - 1.030
60 - 2.333
ET- 8.24
Hammer to the floor and spun half way down the track. shifted about 5k

2nd run
RT - 1.120
60 - 2.372
ET - 8.308

Hammered it a little less..2nd gear shift wanted to bring the rear tires around the front of the car and i lifted a bit. shifted about 5,500k

3rd

RT- .945
60 - 2.191
ET-7.946

need better tires..all i did was spin

Pete- i made it, and actually saw your last run! Got a movie clip of it, and a bunch of other runs too- i'll figure out how to post them tomorrow. The attached pic is of you in the pits, right? (sorry, thats as far as my camera would zoom!)

I thought it would be like SIR and i'd be able to get into the pits to say hi, but i was stuck up in the stands.

Next time i'll just enter and run my daily driver F150... figured it would have taken a couple of the imports that were running :D

I had a blast! Can't wait for some nicer weather and my car back so i can run! Heck, i probably will try and run my truck next time just for the heck of it!!

Hey- did you bring the helmet, or do they provide them? I noticed EVERYONE (even the girl driving the 1985 maza 626) was wearing helmets...

Pete, here's the video of your run:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v661/benstheman1/racing0407/?action=view&current=MOV01160.flv

I'm uploading all my pics and movie clips from tonights races to my photobucket site here:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v661/benstheman1/racing0407/

:thumbsup: Awesome time!

NICE!!! Thats awesome...thanks!!

no helmets provided, brought my own.
wish i had run into yah..next time though!

Pete- 7.9, That's awsome.:thumbsup:
Ben- Great job with the video.:D
I need to get there as soon as I have new tires which is next week...:yes:

Being my first time I was happy with the results. I went there with two things in mind..wanting to run at least a 7.8 (I think that would have been about 110 in the 1/4) and not get beat by an import. I got close to my intended ET.. should be able to with some practice and good tires

Pete-Awesome runs!! Looks like I made a mistake by not coming up, it was raining pretty good when I left work at Lewis. Looked like it was a great time!!

I should have went as well. I was ready to go and even called Owen, the guy that runs the 1/8 mile drags. I Had a few reports of rain from friends at different locations and decided to bail. Wish I had gone now. I heard the racing was fine. Car was loaded and ready.

Pete, good to see your ride into the 7's. I expect you'll drop it into bracket 5 which is 7.0-7.49 with some traction. A 295/50/15 drag radial would work nicely. Plus WD40 the Front sway bar bolts at the a-arms so you can remove them. A little pre prep will have them ready to undo them at the track. It really helps free the car up and transfer weight. If you splurge for some cheapy Summit 3 way adjustable shocks, for the front, you can set them at 90/10 fro drag and 50/50 for cruise. That's what i have on both my chevelle and Nova. Of course set on 90/10 on both.

Sure is nice today, wish it would have been more like this yesterday.

Sorry to mish you guys that went. I would have really liked to meet you all.

Later,

Darryl

Pete, one point of advice which will help your reaction time. Leave on the last yellow. By the time your body reacts and the car reacts the light will be green. It's a .500 light.

I have been looking for some drag tires in that exact size but cant find any... Thats what im running now but with crappy street tires. who makes a drag tire in the 295/15/50 size for a 10 inch rim?

would these front shocks yous speak of make make much of a difference?.. forgive my ignorance, im just getting into this game

thanks for the advice !!!

Hey Pete sorry I missed your call. I thought I was going to have Friday off to work on the Buick but ended up having to work.

I did install the Summit catch tank, a double return spring, and the battery has a new tray and is bolted in rather than bungee'd.

I finished up around 6:00 and looked towards Monroe... hmmm.. those look like rain clouds... I decided not to chance it since I haven't figured out how to get the wipers to work yet (and yes smart asses I've already tried the knob on the dash! :D )

I'm glad to hear you had a tire smoking good time, sorry I missed it!

When's the next one???

Ben you are welcome anytime that you want to ride along.

Helmet? I would have shown up with out one for sure. I'll have to dig my old bike helmet out.. I think its an old Bell M85, do they check them?
Also, do you need a fire extinguisher on board?

Here's the Monroe schedule: Gates open at 5:30 (usually earlier),
May 4th, 18th, 25th
June 8th, 15th, 22nd
July 6th, 20th
August 10, 17
Sept 7th, 28th

Helmet checks, not that I have seen. No fire extinguisher needed. It's not NHRA and only 1/8 mile so many of the picky rules you's see at Pacific don't get a lot of attention. Just common sense: The double spring on the carb, that's common sense but would be enforced anyways.

Hey just got a Happy Birthday note from Team Chevelle. Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew I input that info for a reason. One more year and I quit counting birthdays, actually now I quit.

Sharing birthdays with the late Dale Earnhardt is why I think I was meant to drive,,,,,,,,,,, destiny.

Just ran across results from my last circle track racing on this weekend in 2001. Thought you guys might like it if you're into Nascar.

Berg sweeps WWRA Sportsman action at Evergreen
MONROE, Wash. (April 27, 2001) - Friday's Western Washington Racing Association (WWRA) results from Evergreen Speedway:

We saw Daryl Berg and his #66 Limited Sportsman running hot as he set a new track record, shattering the record he held for the prior two years.
Will Berg win his fifth track championship in 2001? Sources tell us he will run a limited schedule this season and may not return next year so he can spend time with his family.


LIMITED SPORTSMEN
New track record: Berg 18.02
TROPHY DASH: Daryl Berg
HEAT RACE A: Daryl Berg, Lorne Montreuil
MAIN EVENT: Daryl Berg, Loran Payne, Lorne Montreuil

when i went through "tech inspection" on friday they checked for a battery hold down, catch can and a foor mat. they did ask if i had a helmet... didnt ask to see it though.

OK, maybe I'll try next month in May since I stood up Pete and Ben. As long as the weather holds I'm good.

BTW, how much was it to race?

I think its $45

$30 to race, and $15 for the pit pass.

cost me 30 beans

So this Friday are we going to try it again if the weather cooperates? I'd be up for it!

So this Friday are we going to try it again if the weather cooperates? I'd be up for it!


It look's like it may hold, anyone thinking bout going?

Count me in! Sounds like I might have the TC-(NW chapter) videographer along for the ride. :D

I'm running 265/50-15 BFG radials on the rear, and suggestions on tire pressure? Is it worth dropping them down?