I like the body, but the inside is a little over the top. When are they going to do a New Chevelle SS? The new Malibu's are alright but it's no muscle car.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/FVDP/Photos/styleId=100687353

Not near as much as the Challenger.

Yes considering I heard a rumor the LS3 in it will be bumped to 450hp along with the base vette. All due to cylinder head change.

Not as Much as the Challenger and Mustang ;)

Whoever designed the looks on the Challenger did a much better job.

At first I was not 100% sold on it - but I heard an interview with one of the GM design staff and they said they did not do a "total retro" look on purpose. It does have hints of past Camaro and Corvette styling - after hearing that I looked at the car in a different light.

I have grown to think it looks great - I love the new Mustang - but after seeing them for over a year the design looks "tired".

So the GM guys might be on the right track. I saw the red prototype of the Camaro and I thought it looked much better than the silver.

Just my two cents worth.

Tony

Not surprising that most like the challenger - since it looks just like the original one!

Just admit it - you guys hate new cars because they're not old cars!

I like it. Doubt I'll ever be able to afford it but it's cool to look at.

Whoever designed the looks on the Challenger did a much better job.

I agree!:thumbsup:
gonna put one in the garage next to the 'velle soon

Not surprising that most like the challenger - since it looks just like the original one!

Just admit it - you guys hate new cars because they're not old cars!

I have no problem admitting that. To me new cars are simple transportation. Very few have any style.

I wasn't alive back in the days these cars were new, but I wonder if the "mature audience" felt the same way about the chevelles and camaros, in preference of an old tri-5 or something comparable.

In other words, was it the same back then?

I agree!:thumbsup:
gonna put one in the garage next to the 'velle soon

Same here, one (Challenger) might be next to my Chevelle as well. :thumbsup:

i like the body but again the interior is kinda to shiny, and whats up with the gauges? they are kinda weird looking. id buy one if i could but id change the interior. the challenger rocks!

Uh Oh... Here we go.. :yes: :boxing: :boxing:

Kinda ugly, does that speedo say 175mph ?
The sides of the car look ok, but the front and rear of the car is down right Fugly!:sad:
If the price tag is not over 35K it should sell well because of all the loyal fans of camaro:yes:

I don't really like what I've seen so far. Maybe when it shows up on the street it will look better.

The Camaro does look better in person than in pictures.

I was in a Dodge dealership the other day and they had one of those limited addition (1500)Dodge Charger Daytona's in the Lime Green color on the showroom floor. I couldn't stop looking at it and I'm not a real big fan of the 4 door Charger but this car screams musclecar!
I can only imagine the Challenger on the floor in one of the high impact colors like Plum Crazy or Hemi Orange or maybe B5 blue.. I'm getting a woodie just thinking about it!

Yes, It's growing on me! The convert. really looks good. Yes the interior is a little wierd but it might change a bit for production. I don't know if I'll be able to afford one though, and I'd have to use it for daily transportation.

It all depends on what engine the camaro has as to whether I like it or not! ;)

To Answer Your Question-no!!!!

Voted No!!!!

The New Challengers Better--

Bob H

Not as Much as the Challenger and Mustang ;)

Ditto...but vice versa.

Im hoping it will grow on me, but so far, I have to say no....outside is not so hot, inside it really bad. Hate to say it, but I still dont think GM gets it.

yeah the lime green charger daytonas rock! that would be awesome if they released it in the plum purbple color!

Saving my change for the Chevelle SS. It can only be a matter of time.:yes:

At first I was not 100% sold on it - but I heard an interview with one of the GM design staff and they said they did not do a "total retro" look on purpose.
Tony

I heard the same thing I believe. It makes sense to me.. What if they had done an exact replica as the Challenger is. What would they do in the coming years to make it better? The Camaro has room for improvement. What are they going to do to improve on the Challenger?
I like the Camaro. The more I see it the more I like it. I saw an RS version with the hideaway headlights that looked even better somewhere.. Can't remember where though.
My nephew bought a 06' GTO... Looks nothing like the old GTO but, it would run circles around the old ones.

I like it, but I wouldn't buy it... just not practical for me, especially in this climate.

Now if they come out with an attractive full-size RWD V8 wagon (preferably with a stick-axle rear and manual transmission) I'll be first in line at the dealership. :yes: Until then, I'll keep driving my 12 year old LT1 Caprice wagon. :o

.

Now if they come out with an attractive full-size RWD V8 wagon (preferably with a stick-axle rear and manual transmission) I'll be first in line at the dealership. :yes: Until then, I'll keep driving my 12 year old LT1 Caprice wagon. :o

http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroadtests/9833/dodge-magnum-srt8.html

Not GM or a stick but, quick for over a two ton wagon!

I dont like it at all. I dont like Americas retro wave. The Mustang looks okay when really done up (like the Shelby GT500), but the Camaro and Challenger just dont look good to me.

Both look good to me. Its nice to have american RWD muscle from the big 3 again. Even if one is for now, owned by the germans.

Sorry. It doesn't move me.

If they make the 505hp LS7 available I'll buy it. Once the Corvette SS gets the blown 650 hp version, I think they'll offer the LS7.

Hate to say it, but I still dont think GM gets it.


No offense but it isn't just your opinion whether GM "gets it" or not. Take a look at the poll results to this point. I would say GM has got it, about 60% on this poll like it, which on this board is amazing with the number of folks that can't seem to remove themselves from 1970 and place themselves in 2007.

The challenger is in my opinion an enormous mistake my chrysler. They did an exact replica basically of the original challenger. A car that was popular for 4 years in one body style. So they have replicated it, where do they go in 3 or 4 years when the general public is ready for a new design of the challenger. No where, they can't, the only reason the public likes it is because it is a replica of the original. Try and update or change the looks a bit and all you will here is "Chrysler doesn't get it, it's ugly, it doesn't look exactly like the original.................blah, blah, blah.

So what's chryler going to do, invest millions upon millions on a line that will die in a few years. No wonder they are for sale, with these designs no company could stay afloat.

At least ford invested millions on a mustang that they can change the body style over the next years and keep the public happy. Same can be said for the camaro, the design can change over the next few years and they won't have to kill the line because they have no where they can go from here.

Jeff

Ya know what. I'll make up my mind when I see it in person. Can't really tell by the pictures. Take all the pictures you want. But sitting inside it and walking around it should make up your mind. But I think your going to see a lot of them around. Hope they don't over price it so Joe blow can't get one. Just like that Hot Rod pick up they came out with from Chevy. That thing reall looked hot in the mags & in person. But you don't see that many of them. Pricing it too high.

Not with that dinky little door in back. Might as well be an Escort. I remember a buddy whose family had an early 70s Plymouth wagon. You could carry a 4 x 8 sheet of plywood flat, AND actually get it through the back gate.
"Ship in a Bottle" tailgate :D

Think I like the GTO front end bolted on it better.

I think Chevrolet has its head up its azz. I've seen the new car in person and it looks way to much like a caddy. Mustangs and Challengers have the look, the new camaro doesnt.


JMO of course




bob

Im patiently awaiting the release of that hot corvair! Although if Ford comes back out with the pinto I dont know who I am going to go with. Toss up for sure. I just wish we could have the Pacer back.....Pacer would put em all to shame.

As much as a GM guy as I am I have to agree on the Challenger philosophy. I do like the Camaro nonetheless.

No offense but it isn't just your opinion whether GM "gets it" or not. Take a look at the poll results to this point. I would say GM has got it, about 60% on this poll like it, which on this board is amazing with the number of folks that can't seem to remove themselves from 1970 and place themselves in 2007.

No offense taken Jeff. There must be a lot of people voting yes that aren't making comments, because from what I read here so far, it isnt a majority...and some are saying 'if it had this engine, or that option, I would buy it'. I dont see that as 'liking' the car. For me, they could put a blown big block in it, I wouldnt buy one cause I hate the body style, and the interior looks like cheap plastic, like almost all of the other chevy's do today. I think if the engineers at Chevy were on top of things, they wouldnt have gotten rid of the camaro in the first place, and they would be making more performance cars besides the Corvette. I have been a Chevy person my whole life, and for the last several years, my wife and I have both gone car shopping, and cant find one thing that we really like in the Chevy line. Her new car now is a Pontiac, and I drive an F250 truck.

I think if the engineers at Chevy were on top of things, they wouldnt have gotten rid of the camaro in the first place, and they would be making more performance cars besides the Corvette.

I do believe their was more to it than just discontinuing the f-body line. Unless I am mistaken it was the only way GM could get a new f-body built someplace other than the derelict plant they were being built in because of union contracts.

I wish also GM had more performance cars in the line up, but take an overall look at the general population, performance guys are the minority. This is why the toyota camry sells so well as well as many other off shore competitors. The majority aren't shopping for performance, they are shopping for economy and features. Even back in the 60's and 70's this was the case. Look at the number of us on this site that are pulling weak kneed 6's and 307's and even 350's to drop big blocks in their place.

The performance guy in me says build more performance oriented cars, the businessman in me says stay the course and build cars the majority want and try to rebuild the struggling company. Just take a look at the mustang, I see many, many, many more 6 cylinder cars than GT's. Most people won't sacrafice economy for horsepower with gas prices like this.

Jeff

I am glad that GM is bringing back the Camaro but IMHO they missed the mark. I do not like the styling and feel that they could have done better. Being the Moper freak I am the new Challenger is exactly what I've been hoping for. Looks great and can't wait till it hits the showroom floors.

Ya know what. I'll make up my mind when I see it in person. Can't really tell by the pictures. Take all the pictures you want. But sitting inside it and walking around it should make up your mind. But I think your going to see a lot of them around. Hope they don't over price it so Joe blow can't get one. Just like that Hot Rod pick up they came out with from Chevy. That thing reall looked hot in the mags & in person. But you don't see that many of them. Pricing it too high.


plus it was all show and no go...i drove one and it was a total dog.

First gen rules (68) :hurray:

I'm not really a big fan of the look of the car, but I really like the idea of it coming back....I actually own a 2007 Mustang GT, and I'm telling you, it is a sweet ride, with an amazing amount of power. What this country needs is for the big 3 (Hopefully Chrysler will be sold back to US ownership) to get back to being competitive again. The late 60's, and early 70's was a magical time for the US auto industry, and the Mustang, Camaro, Chevelle, Charger, Challenger, and a few others were the reason for it. I'm really tired of hearing people talk about how big a piece of crap American auto's are, and how great foreign auto's are.....it's just not totally true! To a certain degree, some of the claims may be justified, but for the most part, I'm betting our cars will last just as long...In fact, I don't think you could buy a vehicle today that would rival what I have in the Mustang, at the cost I paid for it....so I say....BRING it ON! bring back the Chevelle! Bring back the Challenger! and let's push toyota back out of nascar! although, they're almost doing that by themselves!.....I'm proud of the American heritage, I'm proud of what our military is doing! and I'm looking forward to the next horsepower wars between the big three!!!.....sorry about the soapbox!

the new Camaro, while it is too newly edged styled, at least they are building the car at all. A more exact recreation of the 69 sheetmetal, which is timeless and excellent, would have been preferable. Would be interested in learning about the suspension details, are they using parts from the 04-06 GTO (Holden) or the Cadillac Catera chassis? Or is it a clean sheet design? Or is it a rehash of the 82-02 chassis, with McPherson struts up front and a torque beam running alongside the driveshaft? Frankly a true four link with room under the car to run a true dual exhaust should be paramount. Keep it simple, no base IRS, keep a live axle and save the IRS for an upscale version. Now how about a Firebird and Trans Am!

Keep it simple, no base IRS, keep a live axle and save the IRS for an upscale version. Now how about a Firebird and Trans Am!

I don't think you will get your wish on that one. Unless something changed, it will be an IRS car.

Jeff

I like it.