: Weld-On Fenders????
malibu man Jun 9th, 02, 2:54 PM Is their such thing? I've heard about them, just wondering if it's true. Instead of bolting them on you weld/tack them on.
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Joey B Jun 9th, 02, 3:26 PM huh? and you would want to do this because...? I've never heard of a welded on fender.
malibu man Jun 9th, 02, 9:12 PM Someone mentioned it to me. I just wanted to know if their was such thing.
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MARTINSR Jun 9th, 02, 9:50 PM I am sorry am I missing something? "Is there" weld on fenders, heck yes the ones the car came with, just weld them on. Why anyone would do this, I have no idea, but that is how you would do it. There would not be any "special" fender to buy to weld on if that is the question.
So, we go back to the original question (mine that is) WHY would you want to do this? Why did this "someone" tell you about it? Why did it even come up in conversation? I am not being a smart a$$, there may be a legit reason someone would want to do it.
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mr409 Jun 10th, 02, 7:27 AM I'd prefer bolt on quarters! LOL Wouldn't that have been neato.
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malibu man Jun 10th, 02, 11:12 AM Excuse me! If you want to send $600+ my way then we don't have to complain anymore will we. The fenders that are off the car had to be heated/torched off because the bolts were rusted and their was no room to grind or cut them off. I don't know why they wanted them off anyway. I was just wondering if anyone had heard of such thing. It may not be the smartest thing but it beats not having any fenders at all. I can't see spending $600+ of my hard-earned money on new fenders, that's all. Then add truck freight to that. The only parts that are bad are where the patch panel will go and where the trim is on the top part of the wheel well. Basically, all I wanted to know is if there was a difference between weld-on and bolt on, and I know now.
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Albbies1 Jun 10th, 02, 12:53 PM Trever,
I don't think anyone was trying to get under your skin here. I think some folks were caught off guard by your question. I think when it comes to spending money on these old cars it can get a little deep every so often. I would tell you to save up the necessary monies and bite the bullet and make the new fender bolt on investment. Since you live in the winter wonderland area. Treat with some undercoating for long term care. Good luck.
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MalibuJerry350 Jun 10th, 02, 12:58 PM The problem is YOU NOT explaining what you meant by "welded on fenders". Your question is still rather vague. Read your post again. "Is there such a thing?" Well, yeah, but most front fenders are bolted on because they are the most likely damaged body component in an accident. You needed to explain WHY you may HAVE to weld your fenders on....because someone burnt off the mounting tabs taking them off. We can't read minds here. Now, with that out of the way, sure, you could weld them on, but I would still try to fabricate the original mounting tabs, spot weld THEM to the fenders and then bolt them to the car. Or, look around and see if you can find a better set of used fender that you could repair. I realize money may be tight, but sometimes the cheapest way out isn't the best.
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FO_FDYFO Jun 10th, 02, 1:50 PM i have seen fenders that were welded on befor. i guess people do it when it is too rusted to put the bolt thru or the flange where the bolt mounts is too rusted. its easier to just weld it in place than fabricate a new mounting place. you should be able to just add a lower patch to the fenders now and make sure you rebuild the rear brace. good luck.
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malibu man Jun 10th, 02, 4:46 PM Sorry that I got mad. Still mad at my brother for torching them off. He expected my parents to buy brand new fenders for him. These weren't even that bad, only by the wheel well and back where the panels go. What I understood from this person that I talked to is that there were fender's that were specifically made to weld on. Now I know that that isn't true. I've been searching for awhile for used fenders but haven't found any in the central part of the US. Most people don't want to ship this far. How come fender prices are so high? Is it because the price they had to pay GM to buy the molds or whatever? Or is it the labor or metal? $300 a piece is just a lot in my book. Would the patch panels have the tabs that mount to the door area? That's basically the biggest part that needs work. I'm not sure if the rest of the tabs are there or not.
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sevt_chevelle Jun 10th, 02, 6:09 PM Malibu man it sounds like your fenders are beyond repair, it needs the lower patch and a patch above the wheel opening? I wouldnt waste ten minutes of my time on those fenders. You will so far ahead if you buy nice used fenders out of CA or AZ, they will ship them that far I live in Iowa so Minn isnt that much farther. Look through hemmings for junkyards out in that area. Ive bought stuff from american pie classics and sundell auto.
300 bucks for a new fender is cheap, try taking your fender to a body shop and getting it repaired I bet it would be close to 300 bucks if not more and plus you end up with a fender full of mud. Plus you dont know if the rest of the mounting tabs are there...ouch one more reason to throw those in the trash. I bought a pair of new goodmarks they fit great even better then the OEM's that I removed. I would wait til you can afford to buy those instead of fixing the ones you have.
It was mentioned earlier too...most of the time the cheapest way is not the best way and in this case it wouldnt be the best way...Eric
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malibu man Jun 10th, 02, 9:51 PM I'll just have to wait then. I just wouldn't like to pay more on body work than I paid for the car. I for some reason just can't see myself paying $300 on a fender. I don't know why. I guess I have to then. I know some junkyards in MN that have decent fenders on the cars, but it's not always easy to get the bolts off. You end up messing up the fender. Kinda like what happens when you try to take off and salvage a pair off inner fenders. Once you get them off, their too bad to use.
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more ambition than brains Jun 11th, 02, 7:15 AM 300 to 400 $$ each for good repro's is NOT unreasonable. Current models can easily exceed that price. We are lucky we can get ANY repro's for these cars. Have you tried Windy Hill Auto Parts? There are also several salvage yards that advertise in Hemmings. Unless you are making other significant body modifications to vehicle keep all attachments original as intended by THE GENERAL. P.S. malibu man, LIGHTEN UP, you have just begun to SPEND!!! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif
mr409 Jun 11th, 02, 8:12 AM I hope my bolt on quarter comment wasn't taken wrong. Before I got my welder (and even now) I really wished there was such a thing as bolt on quarters! LOL Fenders and doors are bolted on, why not quarters? Sure would make things alot easier. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif
Anyhow, I suggest you go to some local car shows/flea markets in your area and try to score some nice used fenders. In my area, I can get really decent fenders for about $150 each. This is the best of both worlds as you avoid the repro stuff and the high costs too.
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cjlandry Jun 11th, 02, 9:20 AM Just keep looking. Eventually you'll find good used fenders at a good price.
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1966_L78 Jun 11th, 02, 4:28 PM <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>How come fender prices are so high? Is it
because the price they had to pay GM to buy the molds or whatever? Or is it the labor or metal?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Its because we need them to restore our classic cars... No matter how many of us really need the parts, there are not that many others to make a low cost justified... How many unrestored 70-72 Chevelles are there needing fenders? So it is all those things combined (plus profits for the manufacturer and resale outlet...
As for the "weld on fenders", there would be no way to adjust them for proper fit...
I would beat my brother if he did something as stupid as torching off the fenders...
A nice breaker bar and you should have been able to easily snap the bolts off, saving the fenders (you have to get the bolts out anyway). If the boltsy wouldn't come out with out breaking before removing the fenders, then you wouldn't get them out even after the fenders were torched off...
malibu man Jun 11th, 02, 5:10 PM Yeah, my brother expected my parents to buy him new ones. Could one of you locate some for me? I feel stupid and rude to ask you that but I don't have any car shows around here or much of anything. Some of you might even know some sources that I don't. Just wondering, if you ever see a decent pair for cheap, if you could let me know if you find a pair. I know that you shouldn't have to do that, and you don't have to. Just asking a favor. Whether you buy it, then I buy it from you; or if you find a pair, then let me know. Anyway, that would be real nice of you.
Thanks!!
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1972 Chevelle Malibu
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Undergoing Resotoration
sevt_chevelle Jun 11th, 02, 5:26 PM No car shows or swap meets in your area! Every time I turn around theres a car show or swap meet going in Minn. One swap meet that I always go to is during Back to 50's. Its at the state fair grounds on the race track. They always have chevelle stuff, you might not find fenders there but you will find someone that has some. I believe Back to 50's is this weekend or the next, I highly suggest you go. Also look through hemmings and look for the company named madison classics, they put on five or six swap meets in the Wis area, some of the best Ive ever been to. Plus the guy that puts those on builds chevelles and he has tons of parts.
No car shows in your area...you dont look hard enough, I live in Iowa and know every show going on in the Minn and Wis area.
One place that I know of by the cities that deals with nothing but GM A-bodies is auto city classics. They have tons of junk chevelles and sell goodmark parts and many others.
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BAD415 Jun 11th, 02, 8:06 PM MalibuMan Quote:"I just wouldn't like to pay more on body work than I paid for the car". http://www.chevelles.com/forum/eek.gif Man are you in for a suprise http://www.chevelles.com/forum/eek.gif. Someone should make a little wheel chart that has the cost of the car, and how much its going to cost....Hmmm wheel says $600 car, ok check the window on the other side...hmmm $7800.00 cost...
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malibu man Jun 11th, 02, 10:34 PM The only show that I know is "Shades of the Past" in Marshall, MN at the college. That just has cars to look at.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BAD415:
MalibuMan Quote:[Bold]"I just wouldn't like to pay more on body work than I paid for the car"[Bold]. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/eek.gif Man are you in for a suprise http://www.chevelles.com/forum/eek.gif. Someone should make a little wheel chart that has the cost of the car, and how much its going to cost....Hmmm wheel says $600 car, ok check the window on the other side...hmmm $7800.00 cost... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hahaha!!! I'm not saying it's unreasonable to pay that much. It just looks like a lot to me. I realize that it isn't cheap to restore a car. That's why I work three jobs, basically because of the car.
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Trever Maas
1972 Chevelle Malibu
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more ambition than brains Jun 12th, 02, 9:21 PM Malibu man-- Reread sevnt_chevelle's post. Also Auto City Classics phone # is 763-444-5880, I think they are near Isanti north on 65. Buy a Hemmings, GREAT rescource for shows, parts & cars. Good luck!! Karl
malibu man Jun 12th, 02, 9:32 PM Thanks. I'll try those places. Just ordered a hemmings catalog yesterday. Haven't gotten one for awhile.
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Trever Maas
1972 Chevelle Malibu
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2.73 AXL RATIO
Undergoing Resotoration
malibu man Jun 12th, 02, 11:02 PM I think I just found the gold mine of fenders. Out in Washington. Around 100 Chevelles and El Camino's. 29 of them are 71-72's. I'll have to give them a call tomorrow. Shipping is the only thing that would kill me.
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1972 Chevelle Malibu
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Undergoing Resotoration
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