ok heres the problem.i have a tilt col. with the steering wheel off i am looking at the little white plastic tube that sticks thru the steering wheel. in this tube there is a little metal pin with a spring and a black plastic collar that has a little tit on it . you put the collar on the pin, then the spring, then you push it down the white plastic tube and turn it clockwise. ok i have all that part i think. NOW,the horn cover (ss) has two wires that come togather and they are sodered with a little metal end. my problem is that there is no way to connect the end to the tube sticking out of the colum. this is driving me nuts...any pictures would help.

There should be a ring that goes under the horn button and it has a bent piece of metal coming off the back that makes contact with the spring to carry the current from the center of the column. When you push the horn button, you ground that spring and give a path to ground for the horn relay.

Sorry, no drawing but you are missing the ring that contacts the spring. The button should mount to that.

Chuck

the buttons on a ss steering wheel are off to the sides,left and right. they have a wiring harness behind the horn cover, and that is where i am confused. because the wires are sodered togather and i dont see how it attaches to the steering col.

The little black piece actually holds a wire with an end on it shaped like a thumb tack only smaller. That is where the 2 wires that are connected together connects. Your horn button must have 2 contact points on it (not unusual). When you press the horn button you coplete the circuit to ground. I hope this helps.

Tom

you are right on. but my question is how do you connect the two togather? do u have a ss?? if you take the ss horn cover off (4 screws) and look behind it you will see two wires. one from each horn button as there are two horn buttons. these two wires are sodered togather and there is black plastic piece that slides down over the sodered wires. how does this connect to the steering col???

On my 70ss, I had the same problem. If I remember correctly,you must take the lock plate off the steering column. Those wires connect to a small spring under the brass button. This is the button that contacts the circular brass ring. I'm sorry I can't be more specific, because its been awhile since I did this.

Joe

I am just going from memory. But I think that the wires coming from the two horn buttons came together with an end that had a plastic retainer, a spring, and a contact pin. It plugged into the plastic horn tower on the cancelling cam. The usual three separate pieces (spring, pin, and plastic retainer) were not used.

Looking in Rick's First Gen Catalogue, I see the horn button contacts just have wires coming from them that are loose and certainly no connector as I have described above.

If you could get a good solder connection between the two wires and the end of an original pin (be sure to first install the spring and the plastic retainer) you might be able to fabricate a decent replacement.

One other idea just came to mind. The end of the original contact pin sticks out of the horn tower by a small amount. Would it be possible to machine a small groove in the pin just short of that free end. Install the pin, spring, and plastic retainer into the horn tower. Then you could take a small crimp terminal with a circular end piece. Crimp both horn contact wires into the terminal, and modify the end piece to fit into the groove on the end of the contact pin. Crimp it into the groove. Just make sure that you have enough stroke in the pin so that the spring keeps it touching the contact ring that is part of the cancelling cam.

Hope that this helps,
JIML82