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: how loud are supercharged cars? procharger plans


mad hooker
Jan 30th, 07, 5:16 PM
:D have a 496 inj the plans, thinkin of doing a procharger maybe in the future... how much louder with the supercharger make my car? like umbearable? with maybe a h pipe setup, with a pypes system . any body know of any good supercharger books on how too, for tuning and knowledge?

GuysMonteSS
Jan 30th, 07, 5:21 PM
I've never owned one,but I have heard a couple.The whine from the belt drive can be heard but if you are using a turbo type of muffler it shouldnt be too bad.I would think that exhaust pipe diameter and muffler choice would be the determining factor,I'm sure ther will be more comments on this from people with blower experience.
Guy

mad hooker
Jan 30th, 07, 5:33 PM
yeah thinkin of going with the f1 or a f1r kit from procharger. when i can afford it haha, about 10 psi , just a ball park figure guys, how fast would that put me in the 1/4 , say i have like 650hp to the wheels, in a 3600 pound elky? how much boost would i need to get those numbers?

furball8994
Jan 30th, 07, 5:39 PM
If you mean, How much louder over a NA car with the same exhaust. The pro-charger will add a little more exhaust tone, but not that much.
As for the "how quick". Taking tires and suspension out of the equation, 650hp in a 3600lb car will get you well into the 10.20's

mad hooker
Jan 30th, 07, 5:51 PM
sweet, any body have a f1 or f1r ? how much did it set you back? im planing on going with at least a 295/50/15 wheel in the back and probably coil overs. any body else have any advise for a set up like this? intercooled or not? also could i fit all this under a 2 inch cowl hood?, what type or tranny? i wanted to keep the staple shifter in my car..would a built t400 handle that muchpower and be reliable? gears....i dont want to run out on the free way maybe 3.55's?

66rat
Jan 30th, 07, 6:36 PM
The F1R would be the minimum blower I would put on a 496 big block, and the F2 would be ideal IMHO, just be advised that even with a F1R you'll zip right past 650 HP at the snap of the fingers. I've got a bud that runs NMRA drag radial with a F1R on a SBF and is making in the neighborhood of 1300-1400 HP (FWHP). Of course he's got his tuned up on full race, but we have a board member here that had his F2 blown 540 dyno at 1205 on pump gas. As for noise, Hell yeah their loud!! If you want to make big power you go to let it breath so it takes really big pipes, 4" exhaust would be the minimum. Another good web site for centrifigual blowers is www.turbomustangs.com
The "blow thru" forum is best for supercharger info.

Rob

1bad67
Jan 30th, 07, 6:39 PM
The bypass and and belt drive will create the most noise. Stick with a 12rib belt, and a bypass that will allow you to route the discharged air.

Cogged drive and open 360 bypass equals noise.

mad hooker
Jan 30th, 07, 6:55 PM
ok thanks you guys for the info. ok this is going to be mostly a street car some strip, i want it to idle good, but not all crazy for city use, but still be able to run deep into the tens maybe high 9's in the 1/4. maybe the f1r is too big? what do you guys think?

forcd ind
Jan 30th, 07, 7:58 PM
your prob going to run flowmasters anyway, so your hardly gonna hear the whine anyway-i have run a bunch of prochargers, really like them-used to drive my 3900 lb. 70, 383 w/ps,pb,ac to the track and rip off 10 sec passes and drive it home-right now im putting together a 489 w/F1R, got it to fit under a stock cowl hood on a 70-all i run are turbo 400's, with manuel shift kits, and all the good upgrades-i dont like to run the modulater valve, i dont think it shifts as good as with a man. kit
i am going to play with a 4l80e when i get time, see how it holds up

Jesse N.
Jan 30th, 07, 10:37 PM
My buddy has a f1r on a 408 sbf and it is not any louder out the exhaust than naturally aspirated. The gear whine is another story, It's not bad inside the car but I can hear that think over my car with him two cars behind me in traffic. And the air rushing out the bypass valve is pretty loud on the highway. Its not bad with the 10psi pulleys but with the 18 psi setup it's all you can hear in the car.

I too would say an f2 would be cool on that 496. The f1r is a bit peaky and likes to be spun right to its impeller speed limit.

If you really want streetability I would look at turbos. A single 76mm would make more power than you want and is quiet around town. It also lets you run a smaller cam that lets you keep the power brakes if you want.

camaroman7d
Jan 30th, 07, 11:00 PM
Yes, blown motors are louder (exhaust). Mine is a roots blower but, when I put the blown motor in my Camaro, I could not belive how much louder it was (same headers, exhaust, etc..) The night I fired it up and drove to the gas station, my wife could hear me all the way there and I just basically idled there and back (~1/4 mile). I was running hooker aero chamber mufflers, I added a set of dynomax bullets in front of the hookers (4 mufflers total) that helped but, I switched to Borlas and the two of them are not as loud as the 4 mufflers before. Don't get this mixed up, I like loud and rowdy cars so, when I say it was loud it was LOUD. This was with a 3" system. Anytime you make more power/move more air, the car is going to have a different tone.

SS565
Jan 30th, 07, 11:18 PM
An F1R will be much louder the N/A. I had a 1999 Corvette with an LS1 N/A, then with a D1, then a 408" Iron block with an F1R making 16 lbs. and made 820 RWHP & 735 RWT. The final scenario was quite loud. It would idle some what quite, but when you are on it the blower was very, very loud and the exhaust was almost deafening above 6000rpm if you were next to the car. I have a Dyno clip I will try to upload and you will see what I mean.

fast1971chevelle
Jan 30th, 07, 11:31 PM
i dont have a pro charger i have a baby weiand 177 on my 383 with 3 1/2 exhaust and just cruising it is loud but when you step on the go pedal boy is it loud and my 3680 lb chevelle runs in the mid 9's through the mufflers at only 7 p.s.i of boost but hood clearance would be a problem for you....Mike
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/fast1971chevelle/badass.jpg

mad hooker
Jan 31st, 07, 12:26 PM
ok gokou sent me a pm and he suggested going turbo also, i want my car to be scary fast, but really easy to drive. i think turbo might be the answer. how much compared to a procharger system would a nice turbo setup cost? i know the headers have to be custom, and i know thats not gonna be cheap.

hey scotty can you give some feed back? thanks guys.

smittyocat
Jan 31st, 07, 1:16 PM
Head over to Turbomustangs.com and ask around, good bunch of guys helped me out with my turbo build. Some guys over there that build kits for a living and would be glad to help out.

mad hooker
Jan 31st, 07, 1:29 PM
yeah i registered over there at turbomustangs. i cant wait for this thing to be done

scotty
Feb 5th, 07, 11:43 AM
If you already have a motor, you will need to lower compression to around 8:1 to take full advantage of the boost power. A complete twin turbo setup can be done for about $5k with steel headers, twin 60-1 turbos and all necessary parts if you do it all yourself. I have about $7k into mine now with the upgraded turbos I bought and 321 stainless headers. Right now with my lowest boost setting on my little 350, the car goes 130 mph in the quarter at 3800 lbs!!

GotSpray
Feb 5th, 07, 1:37 PM
Here are some clips to get an idea of the sound don't know if it will help.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/nova/7/16749ff7-2e5b-45b5-bed7-69f916293306.htm

Procharger.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/procharger/0/9e44e794-bbde-4a70-9f30-9832013922e6.htm

here you go!
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/75d51265-6999-49a1-b66d-98c6016a6ab5.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/comment/0/ae1189c4-b848-4593-87bc-98c8017bebbd.htm