This must be one of the rarest 69SS's I've ever seen. It has the highly sought after two speed power glide transmission, complete with the factory 10 bolt possi-trac rear end. #'s matching 350
click (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-CHEVELLE-SS-S-MATCHING-ORIGINAL-CAR_W0QQitemZ220057582896QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6164QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Hey guys, There is a 1969 Chevelle being advertised on ebay # 220057582896 as a SS 350 with a 10 bolt rear end and a power glide. I know later chevelle's around 1971 had an SS 350. Do any of you have any thoughts on the subject?

WOW, it really is "dare I say it, a one of a kind unit". So did 69 ss's come with 350's or not?

WOW, it really is "dare I say it, a one of a kind unit". So did 69 ss's come with 350's or not?

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Q: I'm sure it's a nice car, but it's not an SS, in 69 there was no such thing as a 350 SS car. It's not really a clone either, it looks like a Malibu with SS emblems. I wouldn't want to see any potential buyers mis lead. Tim


A: "Dear friend,Thanks for your interest. however I have been dealing with cars, and motors from cheverlot for most of my life, both of my grandfathers retired from GM after 50 years of service, you just happen to have been misinformed about the SS models, maybe you can go and pick up a year one book, the buyers of all GM's old tooling, and turn to page 7 and read this statement, and I Quote -Remember the 1969-72 SS Package was an option on other Chevelle models, not a separate model. There is no way to tell from the V.I.N on a 1969-72 model whether it is a Super Sport or not (except that it's not a 6-cylinder! end quote. yes many came with big blocks but not all, some at the end of the production year where equiped with 350's and had 2 speed power glides, with 10 bolt rear ends. if you would like to inspect the car and see that its all orignal your more than welcome to. and just so you know for the future, with GM and many other car companies, if they ran out of a motor or a rear end on the line, the line did never stop or change, they simply installed a different motor or rear end! And I have had many people tell me this including my two grandfathers with over 100 years of employment with GM. thank you for your interest and God Bless you. PS. remember in 38 years the rear end could have easily been changed also."

I asked a question about this car and this was the responce,

Dear friend,Thanks for your interest. however I have been dealing with cars, and motors from cheverlot for most of my life, both of my grandfathers retired from GM after 50 years of service, you just happen to have been misinformed about the SS models, maybe you can go and pick up a year one book, the buyers of all GM's old tooling, and turn to page 7 and read this statement, and I Quote -Remember the 1969-72 SS Package was an option on other Chevelle models, not a separate model. There is no way to tell from the V.I.N on a 1969-72 model whether it is a Super Sport or not (except that it's not a 6-cylinder! end quote. yes many came with big blocks but not all, some at the end of the production year where equiped with 350's and had 2 speed power glides, with 10 bolt rear ends. if you would like to inspect the car and see that its all orignal your more than welcome to. and just so you know for the future, with GM and many other car companies, if they ran out of a motor or a rear end on the line, the line did never stop or change, they simply installed a different motor or rear end! And I have had many people tell me this including my two grandfathers with over 100 years of employment with GM. thank you for your interest and God Bless you. PS. remember in 38 years the rear end could have easily been changed also

I didn't read that Andy. Either he fell and bumped his head or he has a very polite way of conning people. I sent him this. Lets see how he responds.
Don't take this the wrong way but you are incorrect. It is true that in 71/72 you could get any V8 in an SS. In 69 the SS option. RPO Z25 consisted of 396 V8 Engine, Special Domed Hood, Black Accented Grille, Power Disc Brakes, Sport Wheels, Wide-Oval Tires, Wheel Opening Moldings, Bright Engine Accents, Special Chassis Features. No other engine option was offered or installed, And the malibu emblem and side trim Were deleted.

I got the same pompus a$$ed reply from him. But he seems to know it all!!!

This guy seems pretty damn confident. Is there any chance at all that this car is correct? I don't think so but I would like to know if it can be proven without a doubt.

From TC. click (http://www.chevelles.com/shop/ss_ident.html)
Chevrolet literature indicates that the only way to get a 396 was with the SS package. However, there appears to be at least one late-production Chevelle that was built with a 396 and all the required SS equipment, but the "Z25" SS-396 option was not listed on the car's build sheet. It is believed that this car came from the factory with "SS" emblems, but that is not 100% certain.

Again in 1969, the only available SS engine was the 396 (in the same flavors as in 1968). In 1969, however, it was possible (if you knew who to talk to) to order something called a COPO 427 Chevelle. COPO stands for "Central Office Production Order". The COPO program allowed dealers to order equipment that was not usually available (such as special paint, special engines, etc.) Unlike the '68s, the '69 Chevelles had their 427 engines installed at the FACTORY, not the dealership. This makes the '69 427s more legitimate in the eyes of collectors today. You didn't necessarily have to go to Yenko or some other special dealer in '69 to get a 427 Chevelle. Your local dealer could usually get you one if you filled out the right paperwork. While the '69 COPO 427s had basically the same equipment as the SS-396s, they were not generally considered SSs because they did not have any external "SS" or "427" identification. They were the ultimate sleepers. Any genuine '69 COPO 427 Chevelle is quite valuable today. There are also unconfirmed reports of a '69 COPO 427 El Camino

Isn't Year one an after market part house? If so I don't think I would use them as refrence book. I have seen other items in those parts book that are incorrect. It was my understanding That 69 Chevelles weren't vin coded as SS but were all 396 BB tho.

Is he trying to convince US, or HIMSELF? God Bless.

There were no SS small blocks in 69 PERIOD!! It also can't be a late in the year SS as he said, because you couldn't get a small block SS in 70 either. Not till 71, could you get an SS small block. There are always gonna be dishonest people trying to con buyers. Lets just hope no one falls for his crap. If they do, it's their own fault for not educating themselves, before buying one of these con-artists cars.

As I see it, 350 motor + Power Glide + two barrel + 10 bolt + 68 seats ( I think 69 had head rests ) = Malibu with emblems

I'm not sure of the 69 models but in late 1969 I bought a new 70 Malibu, my best friend (and still is) liked it so much he went to my salesman and ordered a 70 Malibu with SS trim, buckets, floor shifter/console, bow-tie on black grill (not SS396) even had the black rubber on the bumper with white SS and a 350/300hp TH350. His reasoning was he didn't want the 396 gas problems because he was a traveling salesman. Sure wish I had that car today, infact he would like to have it back too but not the Vega he traded it for. So maybe someone did the same thing for a 69 model.

I don't think he's being dishonest, maybe a little thick headed.
I think he's just mistaken but really believes he knows plus he won't listen to those who do know.

This explains a lot.
Dear friend,Thanks for your interest. however I have been dealing with cars, and motors from cheverlot for most of my life

I have had several "Real" 69 SS Cars.. I don’t need to explain, because you all know the story here but.. I thought for sure all SS cars in 69 came with Power Disc Brakes.. Where is the Hood?? Ohh wait.. they must of ran out of them… Look at where the SS emblems are located.. Waayy to low. Nice looking car.. But "MAILIBU 350" all the Way!!! I wonder if he may own that 68 LS6 SS 396 Hurst addition with the 3 on the column someone once told me about.. :)

May "GOD BLESS" his lyin a_ _!!!!!

The 69 350 w/2BC had 250 hp, real SS material. I just sent this question to him.

"I see in 69 that a 350 with a 2 barrel carb had 250hp, are you really trying to sell this as an SS?"

If that car is the nicest he has seen.....:rolleyes:

Rattle can trunk, Rattle can engine, silver overspray on the drums. That is one car that better be inspected IN PERSON.

The 69 350 w/2BC had 250 hp, real SS material. I just sent this question to him.

"I see in 69 that a 350 with a 2 barrel carb had 250hp, are you really trying to sell this as an SS?"

His answer;
"It says on the air cleaner that it has 270 HP. God Bless. I bought the car as an SS, and was told it was an ss, with the round gauges, the clear lights in front, and the Chevlle book, Year one stands behind all that info. It tells me that from 69 to 72 that there's no way to tell if it's not a true ss. The only one thats not a true ss is one that has a six cylinner in it. What I can say forsure is that I have never seen a cleaner, nicer little chevelle in my life.I have the original title, and on it,it says sports coupe. God Bless

I think he finally backed down on that SS claim. He is now calling it a sports coupe. Someone sold him a bill of goods and he believed them! I think enough people told him he was nuts, God bless.

At least he has posted all doubting questions about the car on his listing. I really think that he got duped when he bought the car and was not really trying to be dishonest just misinformed. But I also can't understand how somebody can try and sell a car like this without some very solid proof.

I ran across that auction and thought the same things. Guys a real genious but it almost looks as if he himself actually believes he has an SS.

God told him it was an SS so it's not his fault

A lot of people sure like to make fun of other people don't they.
Guess thay never made a mistake :clonk:

The guy is obviously a christian and really THOUGHT it was an SS until he got all our email messages.

someone really got caried away after he already admitted his mistake.

go to team chevelle ..you do not i repeat do not have a super sport or ss chevelle ....this is a malibu believe what you want ...but this car is a malibu ..

A lot of things can happen during the life of a car. A customer that used the shop where I worked in the seventies had a Chevelle wagon and thought it was a rare El Camino wagon! The car had been in a collision at some time and had an El Camino grille emblem. I think someone liked SS trim and installed it on this car years ago and now it's original equipment in the eyes of the seller.
Paul