Can someone send me a video of your car idling with a Comp Cams 292 or 286 Camshaft in a small block. I want to buy one of these, but want to hear it first. Thanks.

Go here and page down to camshaft sounds.Just click on their link and it should start playing.I think that is, my speakers aren't working.
They have a 292 but no 286.

http://www.compcams.com/Technical/

The 292 is agressive sounding for sure.
If you want a more agressive sound try a split pattern cam and a tighter LSA.
This cam sounded like an animal in my friends 350
Lunati cam PN#30115 290 300 240 250 520 540 106

Both of those cams require a lot.What do you have for an engine combination? Compression, intake, heads, rocker arms, ignition, converter stall speed, rear gear??

I will send you my xe284 it is close to the 286.

well, not without your email addy, it is not public.

I also have a sound bite of the magnum 292

my email is iraqifreedom0304@yahoo.com

thanks
bryan

BRYAN,I KNOW THE COMP 292 WITH 244 DUR @.05 IDLES RATTY/HOT SOUNDING IN A 396/402 BUT IT IDLES MUCH SMOOTHER IN A 454 OR 502 WITH MORE CUBES.

OPPS,SORRY ABOUT CAPS.

You can't go by what people say any size cam idles like with out knowing the size of their motors so you can then compair it to your motor.

You have to compair apples to apples meaning approx same sizes motors when compairing cams.

Someone could say a particular cam idles hot/radical in the their 396 and then you pop it in your lets say 454/496 and it will idle much smoother due to the additional 50-100 cubes.

What is your motor size,whats the motor sizes of the people telling you what their cams ile like,whats the intended use of your car,whats current setup of your motor,carb,intake,trans,rear gear,etc?

Radical idle will not be street friendly at all so keep that in mind along with the other things i stated here before choosing a cam.

Scott

My motor is a 350, 186 double hump heads, victor jr intake, 650 double pumper, 350 turbo automatic with a 3000 stall, 12 bolt posi with 3:90 gears but will be changing to 4:10. i also have flowmaster 2-1/2 inch exhaust with 40's.

292 Magnum will be plenty lumpy in your 350 .

Myself, I'd rather be fast, than sound fast. Get a combo that works right, and you'll love it that much more.

That 292 needs 11 to 1 in a 350 to run right.

HA HA HA! I just listened to the clip on compcams.com and it sounds like they are idling it at 2000 and lashed the valves at .100". If my engine sounded like that I would wonder what was wrong with it...

Yeah, Inoticed that clip as well. IT sounds HORRIBLE!

i want my engine to sound like the one does with the XM-274. After reading comp cams specs, it says it's a marine cam. My car is a NICE day driver and some occasional drag racing.

You do know that you can run a more street frindly cam if you get it made on say, 106/102 centers like the roundy-round guys run!

In fact, I would go over to onna their suppliers cat's and pick a lift-limited one that will run in the street CR range and go from there!

Heck, you will be able to run pump gas and it should really cackle!!

pdq67

Yeah, Inoticed that clip as well. IT sounds HORRIBLE!

that must be the sound it's supposed to make if you use comp cams valvetrain. :D

Thats the new direction they are goin......if it sounds like its broken all the time.....than you never really know if it is actually broke or not.... So it kinda makes it tough to complain hehe. Just kiddin

Thats the new direction they are goin......if it sounds like its broken all the time.....than you never really know if it is actually broke or not.... So it kinda makes it tough to complain hehe. Just kiddin

That's bonus for them!

With your parts I would go with something more along the lines of the 286 Magnum or smaller.Your compression is too low for the 292 as mentioned.

Try an Isky dual pattern cam with about 10 degrees more duration on the exhaust side at .050. Most of Isky's stuff is on a 108 LSA.You'll hear that and it will run hard.

Can someone send me a video of your car idling with a Comp Cams 292 or 286 Camshaft in a small block. I want to buy one of these, but want to hear it first. Thanks.

Comp has a new line of cams called Thumpr that they are maketing for their sound.

http://www.compcams.com/thumpr/


http://www.compcams.com/Base/Images/Products/Thumpr/bottom.jpg

First I every heard of the Thumpr cam. They make it for OEM roller blocks yet?

You want cackle!! Then take one 11 to 1 CR, 327 motor and add one Z-30 Isky solid cam AND you will sure have cackle, imho!!

I figure that it would be down right RADICAL in a 12 to 1 CR, 283!!

And the same CR. 350 will need a 295 cam to create that cackle!!

It's all in the stroke AND DCR imho!!

But we can't run cackle cams nowadays b/c of only being able to buy 92 to maybe 94 octane gas!! So that pretty much kill's high compression CACKLE!!

And fwiw, my old .060" over, tripp'd 409 "W" motor was rigfht at 11.5 to 1 with GM's NASCAR solid cam AND you wanna talk about cackle!! Coming out of (3), 2.5" glasspacks down each side!!

pdq67

PS., I take that back b/c we can run Crane's MILD 274H06 for cackle!!!!

You want cackle!! Then take one 11 to 1 CR, 327 motor and add one Z-30 Isky solid cam AND you will sure have cackle, imho!!

I figure that it would be darn right RADICAL in a 12 to 1 CR, 283!!

And the same CR. 350 will need a 295 cam!!

pdq67

How do you think the Z-30 would run in a 355 with about 11.25 to 11.50 compression ratio? I am currently running a hydraulic with .490/.490 lift, 290/297 adv. dur., 235/240@.050. What kind of rear gear would it require? Would I need to change valve springs? I want something that pulls a little harder and higher...

Ok................

I rode in it back about '64!!

My long gone Crippled Buddy's '58 'Vette rag-top had a '64, 375hp/327 FI motor in it and a Z-30 soild Isky cam , 2.5" pipe nipple dumps with a 4-speed AND 3.08 rearend gears AND he drug it that way with usually my Buddy Gene shifting for him!

Anyway, back to that old Isky Z-30 cam!!

Tom asked me one Sat. night back about say '64 if I would ride with him so's I could get outta his car to get him a pint of VO in La Plata, MO's Bozane's Liquior Store that was like almost 9 miles away from Atlanta, MO.

Anyway Tom got his SMALL bottle of Hootch and I said something to the affect that I had to meet My Buddy in Beviere about at this time time so Tom said just shift when I tell you to after a short swig!!

Out on the highway, I shifted for him and saw 7,200 rpm ON his Dixon tach and his 327 was still climbing rpm-wise at that rpm!!

About say about 3 to 3.5 minutes later we were in Atlanta, MO and we NEVER met a car in that 8 to 9 mile 160 to 170 mph high speed run!!

pdq67

PS., And I was young and drove that way and was going to live forever!!

Try 6" of snow on that same stretch of highway at 125 mph!

Done it with my B-i-L's younger brother just under him right on my tail!!! And, he, he, and I with him on my tail passed a snow plow right a 100mph!!

GREAT STORY! WOW!!!

Similiar to one of my Uncles stories when he went about 140 miles in 55 minutes!

i like the way the thumper ones sound, i have a 288/488 cam in my 350 now. i'll put a sound clip of it on tommorow. i just need to figure out how.

Those profiles sound good, just carry an extra set of plugs with ya, youll need them .

Believe they will foul the plugs do you. I would like to find out more.

I have a 288/488 cam in my 350 now.

What brand? What part #?
What are the whole spec's on that cam?

It is a TRW TP-168. It has 288 duration on both exhaust and intake as with the 488 lift. i'm thinking of just putting some 1.6 roller rockers to get a little more lift from it, it sounds pretty good i guess. There is a race in Grand Junction, CO on the 1st of jan, i guess i'll see how she runs this time.

Here's a couple you'll hear that won't be too bad with that compression.I'd like to see a little more though.

Lunati pn# 301B3LUN
288/296 231/239 485/507 108

Lunati Part #: 30123
285/290 235/240 .507"/.520 106

Isky 201284/292-6
284/292 236/242 505/510 106

Adding lift alone won't do much.Though technically I guess it adds just a hint more duration.There's more power to be had from getting the correct LSA.
Be aware that narrowing the LSA will net you a more aggressive sound, but it will also decrease your vacuum level at an idle.Vacuum you might need to run say, power brakes??? If you have power brakes I'd limit the LSA to 108.

My camcorder is acting up, i'll get a clip posted as soon as i found out what's wrong with the camera.

I have the comp cam XE-294 in my small block. I am running around 11.5 to 1 compression.

http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb279/bigfredtn/?action=view&current=truckclip.flv

what cid and mufflers you have bigfredtn??

First, going from 3.90 to 4.10 will hardly be noticeable. I don't think it is worth the time and money. If your car is already a good daily driver, why would you want to mess it up with lower gears, wild cam, and too low compression? I would be looking at a short duration cam, like 220 degrees ground on 108 or 106 LDA. That should give you some of the sound you're looking for without ruining overall streetability.

Google "501C2LUN" and you will hear my cam on utube. It is NOT a daily driver. If that is the sound you are looking for, you will need to have two cars: one to drive, and another to pour large amounts of expensive gas through that sounds good.

Loping, nasty sounding engines are made to run at high RPM's. Not what is needed for a GOOD daily driver.

what cid and mufflers you have bigfredtn??
In that video running open headers. But I have added 2.5 inch flowmasters 40's.