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: Front brake and bearing job, what am I missing?


Slick71ss
Oct 28th, 06, 5:10 PM
I'm replacing my front rotors, pads, bearings, and seals. Going to order parts through local parts store, but want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

Rotors
Pads
Inner bearings
Outer bearings
Seals???

Is there only one bearing grease seal per side? If yes, what seals the grease on the dust cap, or outer side?

I've ordered the factory shop manual, but its taking its time getting here! :mad:

surmin69
Oct 28th, 06, 6:24 PM
The only seal is on the ( inboard side ) of the rotor, the dust cap is it on the outside, at least this is how it is with the single piston caliper models, don't know about dual piston calipers.

Brettd85
Oct 28th, 06, 9:32 PM
Surmin is correct. Number of pistons shouldnt matter.

Daren71
Oct 28th, 06, 11:24 PM
Please use new cotter pins (split pins) when you install the outer bearing. Daren

Slick71ss
Oct 29th, 06, 12:30 AM
Thanks for the info.

Please use new cotter pins (split pins) when you install the outer bearing.

Did you find this out the hard way?


I found the Raybestos Quiet Stop Ceramic brake pads for under $30 shipped on Ebay!!! :hurray: Local parts store wanted $57! :sad:

meb
Oct 29th, 06, 7:43 AM
How about new rubber lines? Good time to replace them!!!

Daren71
Oct 29th, 06, 7:52 AM
Thanks for the info.



Did you find this out the hard way?


I found the Raybestos Quiet Stop Ceramic brake pads for under $30 shipped on Ebay!!! :hurray: Local parts store wanted $57! :sad:
Naw, its part of my job not to cut corners, keep them big airplanes flying, always replacing cotterpins, gaskets, o-rings when every they are disturbed. Hope everything goes well. Daren

Brettd85
Oct 29th, 06, 5:21 PM
I agree, reusing those items are a bad idea.

BC
Oct 30th, 06, 2:41 PM
I agree that you should replace the lines if you do not know the history of them. they usually go bad from the inside out.

Yes, there is only one seal on the inner side... the dust cap is on the outside. I usually put a thin dap of sealer around the outside of the dust cap where it goes into the hub just for a little added insurance.

Make sure you get decent bearings as well... I still like to stick to Timken...

Nice job on the brake pads... I like those as well and that's a good deal!

You didn't mention your plans for the actual calipers... I'd recommend either rebuild or replace while everything is apart... especially if you don't know the history of them.

Other than that, just make sure you have plenty of fluid on hand. For that kind of reconditioning, I like to take everything apart and drain the Master Cylinder. Then refill with new fluid and flush it all the way thru to get any left over crap out.

Good luck,
Bill C.

Slick71ss
Oct 30th, 06, 4:18 PM
My calipers and lines are like brand new. Actually, there isn't anything wrong with the old pads and rotors either. I got some new wheels so I'm just replacing the rotors for looks, and pads for low dusting.

The old rotors must have got wet at some point in time, because the non-braking surfaces had some rust on them. Instead of trying to clean them up and have them turned, I just ordered new ones. I didn't go with drilled or slotted because I've read complaints on them cracking. I ordered some Brembo's because I think they're mad in the USA. Seems Raybestos and all the rotors at the local parts stores are made in China now!

The bearings I bought are SKF. These were the upper line sold at NAPA. The cheaper ones were Taiwan crap. I did get Taiwan seals because that's all that were in stock.

1partsguy
Oct 30th, 06, 5:28 PM
GOOD Hightemp Wheel bearing Grease!!

Slick71ss
Oct 30th, 06, 9:21 PM
What kind of grease is needed for the caliper pin sleeves? The sleeves that go in the caliper bolt holes with the O-ring inside. Can a general or wheel bearing greese be used?

Daren71
Oct 31st, 06, 9:07 AM
The grease is designed for high heat apps. Its called brake assembly lube. Mine is in a tube like toothpaste. Its a clear silicone. Make sure everything is clean, and use this stuff carefully. If you make a mistake and get any on the pads, you should probably replace the pads. Daren

Slick71ss
Nov 6th, 06, 5:40 PM
I have a couple more questions....

Can the bearing races that came in my new rotors be used, or do I have to use the ones that came with the new bearings? It would be much easier using the ones in the rotors. The rotors said "Made in USA" on the box and "Canada" is casted or imprinted on the rotor itself, if that makes any difference in quality issues.

My brake pads came with a little sample of lube. Is this intended for the caliper pins, or is there something else that needs lubed that I don't know about?

Daren71
Nov 6th, 06, 6:34 PM
I have a couple more questions....

Can the bearing races that came in my new rotors be used, or do I have to use the ones that came with the new bearings? It would be much easier using the ones in the rotors. The rotors said "Made in USA" on the box and "Canada" is casted or imprinted on the rotor itself, if that makes any difference in quality issues.

My brake pads came with a little sample of lube. Is this intended for the caliper pins, or is there something else that needs lubed that I don't know about?
I have always used the races that are installed on the rotors, just make sure the bearings fit OK when you install the discs. I'm thinking anything Made in USA, or made in Canada, should be of better quality than any off shore stuff. That little lube sample is for the pads. It gets put on the back of the pads, anywhere they contact the calipers, just to keep them quiet, that's why there is only a little bit. Just do a dry install, and see where it needs to be put. Good luck. Daren

Slick71ss
Nov 6th, 06, 6:59 PM
Thanks. :thumbsup:

Chris R
Nov 7th, 06, 3:01 AM
Dont forget about the washers that go between the outer bearing and the nut. Only one washer per side is needed. You will need 2 total.

Delta
Sep 24th, 07, 1:36 AM
Seems Raybestos and all the rotors at the local parts stores are made in China now!

I am currently going to be adding Raybestos rotors to my Chevelle and they are made in China so should there be any worry especially in the stud department about their quality over USA made rotors?

rex362
Sep 24th, 07, 2:43 PM
I just installed raybestos brand premium rotors and figured they were made in USA ...ended up being made in china ....

but they are nice though and the guarantee that they are true out of the box
so I let the cut go ...

I always - always do a fine cut on new rotors/drums .....you would be surprised at how many are not straight ....imo 90 % are not ....

doesnt bendix own raybestos...???


and the bearing race ..I only change them when changing out bearings on used rotors...