: PPG's new roll on primer
WayneK Mar 30th, 02, 7:20 PM New Issue of StreetRod. Showcased PPG's roll on primer. a 2k high build sandable primer. You mix 4/1 and roll on with A rolled . Also self etch in rattle can's for the small home repair.
I thought this would be a good product for the uncompresser/spraygun guy's who want to do there own spot repairs.
check it out.
shannon Mar 31st, 02, 6:32 PM Wayne,
Glad you threw that last statement in there, "Spot Repairs".
I noticed the Street Rodder article this morning on the newstand but only glanced at it and did not read it.....it looked like the generic "advertisement thinly disguised as a magazine article" that is so popular with most of the rags today.
Spot Repairs is what this product is designed for and Im just waiting for someone to prime a whole qtr. panel or fender job with this stuff then go to bitchin about what a time they're having trying to sand the thing slick. Let's face it....it goes on with a roller, it's only gonna go on so slick. And one of the gripes I have already been hearing about it is that it can be a little tuff to sand. But hey....I've worked behind bodymen who's "sprayed" primer looks like a gator's back.
One of the tricks to this rollable primer is to "feather out" the edges of the primer as your rolling it by gradually lifting the roller off of the surface as your rolling out towards the outer edges. This helps to not have a "cliff" edge to have to sand out....kinda like the body men who tape around the edges of a repair then prime right over the edge of the tape. No matter how well you think you have sanded it and feathered it back, once the paint is on and dry you can still see where the edge of the primer was.
The rollable primer will definitely find a home in the production shops as a MAJOR time saver.
Shannon
WayneK Mar 31st, 02, 8:20 PM Thanks for the reply shannon. and I agree 100% on your spin. according to the article PPG has different foam rollers for build hight !!!.
I unfortunately learned body work in a hight production used car shope. ALL the Dirty tricks were the norm. You roughed down your filler with a 9in 36grit grinder. Hit it with a flat board or file at 80 and then BRUSHED on lacquer primer mixed the consistency of cake iceing. pre shrunk and dried it with a heat gun and squeegeed on a layer of red nytrostan . You talk about HIGH BUILD, B-4 the new K-2 or Poly primers!
So I can see where they can have there use in both production and specific home use.
micky69396 Mar 31st, 02, 10:07 PM We use the rollers for spot prime with NCP and it works fine also. We went to a seminar for the stuff and it looked pretty neat . They also have a spray type primer that cures with a black light I think and it was pretty trick. Great for a collision shop without cleaning a gun.
MAXX2 Mar 31st, 02, 11:38 PM Isn't this a 24 hour start on an April Fools Joke or what!
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MARTINSR Apr 1st, 02, 12:32 AM No April fools jokes, technology is going to pass you by if you think of it that way.
Glasurit has a clear that cures in 15 seconds after being exposed to UV!!
We tried rolling on S-W primer as per the recommendations. It left a LOT to be desired, but we see the possiblities.
I was thinking that polyester would be a perfect roll on. Have any of you tried it?
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sevt_chevelle Apr 1st, 02, 7:57 PM Martinsr, you have tried the S-W rollable primer right? I take it you dont like it right?, we've been thinking about trying this stuff, but no one in our area knows about it. And you know paint reps, they talk the world out of everything new even if they themselves have yet to try it, "Its the greatest product ever."
I'd really appreciate your feedback about it...Eric
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budruski Apr 1st, 02, 10:05 PM I have not tried the PPG roll on yet!, but a few Dupont reps came by with there new roll on about a year ago. Man I will tell you, I was surprised. He rolled on about 3 coats and 15 mins later it sanded like butter. I will be the first to admit my feelings about Dupont, but that rollon primer was great. The only problem i found with it was the price of the rollers. They were pretty high at the time.
Shannon I couldnt agree with you more on the primer applied by bodymen. Then when you complain, the painter is always the primadonna of the shop. They love to load that stuff on. I have even heard the term "thick and chewy." Plus they think flash time on primer is equevalent to the time it takes them to bring the gun back to the bottom of the panel. Gotta love it.
MARTINSR Apr 2nd, 02, 12:53 AM Eric, I haven't tried a primer that is specifically for rolling on from S-W. What I did was use their 201 VOC urethane primer with a roll on recommendation instructions. You really couldn't roll on enough in one application to do any filling. The roller pulled off the previously applied primer http://www.chevelles.com/forum/frown.gif
You would have to allow it to totally flash and then get a new roller and apply another coat.
And Eric, easy on the paint reps http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif
It is a super &%#@* of a job. Working on cars every day is breaze next to repping.
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