I could bondo the earth back to geather if it ever broke!LOL

Yes but if you want it to last, better buy a mig welder and use metal. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif

------------------
Bob (Pa.)

1963 Impala 283
1966 Chevelle SS 409
1969 Malibu 307
1972 Malibu 307
1969 Chevy stepside 350

Check out my website:
Bobs 409 Chevy Page (http://members.spree.com/entertainment/mr409/bob_s_409_chevy_page_index.html)

Looking for Chevelle or Impala parts? Click here:
Chevelle parts for sale (http://members.spree.com/entertainment/mr409/items4sale.html)

Broke my arm once in the desert. No medical facilities for miles. Had bondo in the trunk, mixed it up and bondo'd my arm from wrist to shoulder...healed perfectly but I cant get it off and now shifting the muncie is a real PITA.

Ever bondo someones doors shut in the middle of the night? Man, that makes for good facial expressions in the morning.

------------------
'70 SS 396 4spd
TC# 1341

"You're just jealous because the little voices are talking to me"

So what! I can weld anything from broken hearts to popsickles. http://personal.clt.bellsouth.net/clt/m/g/mgervin/smilies/rollsmile.gif

[This message has been edited by Randy Mosier (edited 09-06-2001).]

So YOU are the previous owner of my car??? Man you'd better look out http://www.chevelles.com/forum/mad.gif http://www.chevelles.com/forum/eek.gif http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

------------------
71 Ragtop, finally under reconstruction!
MCC #347, TC (Gold) #174
N3JHV@bellatlantic.net

I made a heart shaped Christmas ornament once out of "bondo" once. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

------------------
1965 Buick Gran Sport Convertible
1965 Buick Skylark H/T
"Fan of most anything that moves human beings"

[This message has been edited by MARTINSR (edited 09-06-2001).]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MARTINSR:
I made a heart shaped Christmas ornament once out of "bondo" once. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You only need to say once, once.
How is that exhaust fan working? http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif
You want the charcoal filters in the
respirator. They remove the harmful
chemicals. Ruins all the fun for some people. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

Jut pulling your leg, ok?

Once twice. Is that from the Department of Redundancy Department?

------------------
von '69 300 Dlx SS TC #15 ACES #1575
My '69 SS (http://sites.netscape.net/von69ss/homepage)

That is the second mistake I ever made twice. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

------------------
1965 Buick Gran Sport Convertible
1965 Buick Skylark H/T
"Fan of most anything that moves human beings"

Bondo has its place. I was just teasing to see the responce. But seriously we all use it. If you said you didnt youd be full of it.If you work on body work 'you use bondo' Its only good for about 7 or 8 years then it shows it self. I can also weld the earth shut with my mig to.

Bondo sucks.Use Rage.I don't agree with the 7 or 8 year thing.

First, are you using the "bondo" term as generic or as the brand name "Bondo"?

"bondo" is a generic term for "plastic filler" or more appropriately "polyester body filler". It will last FAR longer than 7-8 years. In fact, if used correctly, the car will be rusting away in a wrecking yard, we will be dead and buried and it will still be there.

Plastic body filler is a product to repair imperfections in auto bodies. It is THE way to do it in the industry today. At work, I measure with a $30,000.00 system, repair the damage on a $25,000.00 frame rack, using $10,000.00 or so dollars in hand tools. It is then painted in a $60,000 spray booth with a $500.00 gun. The Plastic filler of today is part of this high tech industry.

------------------
1965 Buick Gran Sport Convertible
1965 Buick Skylark H/T
"Fan of most anything that moves human beings"

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MARTINSR:
First, are you using the "bondo" term as generic or as the brand name "Bondo"?

"bondo" is a generic term for "plastic filler" or more appropriately "polyester body filler". It will last FAR longer than 7-8 years. In fact, if used correctly, the car will be rusting away in a wrecking yard, we will be dead and buried and it will still be there.

Plastic body filler is a product to repair imperfections in auto bodies. It is THE way to do it in the industry today. At work, I measure with a $30,000.00 system, repair the damage on a $25,000.00 frame rack, using $10,000.00 or so dollars in hand tools. It is then painted in a $60,000 spray booth with a $500.00 gun. The Plastic filler of today is part of this high tech industry.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


All that money too spread a gallon of $30.00 filler, scrape it with a 3.99 cheese grater file, and follow it up with a 5.00 ream of sandpaper http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif sounds like you put way too much effort into your work there martinsr http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Would you feel that way if he was fixin your car?

70isfine! Is correct, nice cars.I use Rage for the last 10 years easly. Common down to Thornhurst and see. I'm real close to ya. Bring your rod lets see her. I'll show you mine. Shes covered w/rage. Any one who restores a car and says its got no bondo is full of it. People around here don't pay for replacements, they pay for the BONDO. Thats my F&^%ing nick name for sake, LOL. I go bondo to primer. What I see is the life is only 7 or 8 years then it starts to show it self... Shrinkeadge... Have you see yor jobs 8 years after? I have. I love to play here. God Bless America, w/love you honey.

MARTINSR...I've seen you here, How are you,I am fine. Just to answer youre questions I use rage for 10 years or more its the best out there! Bondo to primer is the key, No glazes or anything like that. I have used PPG proudcts for 17 years now. That's the first day I ever started to do this type of work. I don't answer to many things on here, cause everone has there own way of doing things, and thats good. Buy the way I do all my work in a garadge at my own home for the last 5 years now. I use binks and a Accu-Spray, It's a good combo. No Dirt, No Fans, NO s^^it. No Hits,No Runs, No earas....... If this sounds bad it isn't. Just letting people know me. I lve to look on here.

Ahhh, I love the smell of BONDO in the morning!!

Actually, I believe God did make the world with Bondo. He first made it perfectly flat.

After a while, it rained, the bondo got wet, it bubbles (as always); there came the mountains!!

When used right bondo or plastic filler will last for ever. The reason bondo gets it bad name is because of rum dums dont know how to use it properly. They use too much and exceed the fill capabilties or use it to fill in holes or directly over rust, which it wasnt meant to do. Its meant to fill minor imperfections in the metal surface. If you use bondo over an expoy primer that greatly improves the life of bondo. The shrinkage people see is not the bondo shrinking its the primer, most people apply the primer and the next day sand the primer and then reapply more. You need to let the primer complety cure and shrink, I like to paint my primer then about a week later sand and reapply. The last coat of primer I apply before the color coat, I wait about a month that gives the primer more then enough time to shrink before you paint the car. That sure sounds extreme but go ask any high dollar body shop that does nothing but high dollar hot rods and restortions and that is common practice. But you get what you pay for also, but if people just take their time and learn how the products are supposed to be used you wouldnt be saying it only last for 8 years. Everybody and their brother thinks they can be body men, how tough can it be to sand down some mud and shoot primer, and though out all my years as a body man I still learn something new everyday I go to work and its not all that easy sometimes. More then enough people complain about the prices body shops charge and end up going home all mad and thinking "I can do that myself its not tough." Then later down the road complain about the products they used because their car is falling apart becaues they didnt take the time to how what they are doing and how it should be done.

Just my opinion about the subject.

You calling me a rum bumb? I got news for ya! You the one that just said bondo lives longer if its use over epoxy. So how long is its life? You said forever. Whats for ever? I agree with you the longer you leave it out in the open the more shrinkage it gets the better it comes out in the long run. Thats why it took me two years between primer and paint to finish my car. Yes Yes tell me some more I dont know?

Im not calling you are anyone in here a rum dum, what I was meaning is that everyday I meet and surly everyone else has meet someone who is working on a car whether just wrenching on it to restoring it, that they shouldnt be doing what they are doing. Just because of the fact they dont have a clue. As for the bondo...lasting for ever, if applied right and in the matter in what it was meant for it will last the life of the car. A 7-8 year life span tells me that something was done wrong when applying it or maybe a cheap brand of mud. A older man came into the shop I work at a few years back with a early mustang like a 65 or 66 and wanted it fixed it up. The car had no rust just some minor door dings and fading paint. As I was stripping the left fender in the front I had noticed some bondo where a dent was hiding. But as I looked over the car before we stripped it, it showed no signs of prevoius body work done to the car, no bondo showing itself no sand scratches. When the owner returned later to check up on the car, he told us that the car had been hit before in the front which required a new hood a straighting the fender and that was in '68 or 69 that happened. So if bondo developed in 1968 can last that long, why cant bondo developed from 2001 last the same?

Brenden, I will tell you right now, ployester filler will NOT shrink a noticeable amount......BUT the primer will. What you have noticed is the primer shrinking.

You can help this a lot by not pounding on the primer (trapped solvents have to go somewhere later) and/or using that "glazing" polyester putty to get it to a more perfect state before the primer is appled. This way less primer is needed. Of course you can get the same results with out the glazing putty, it is just easier to work with than "regular" plastic filler. The main difference between "glazing" putty and "bondo" is the amount the talc has been ground. So polyester putty over polyester filler will give you a less porous base for the primer. Infact, there are polyester primers that you can paint right over that are really just "sprayable bondo" http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

------------------
1965 Buick Gran Sport Convertible
1965 Buick Skylark H/T
"Fan of most anything that moves human beings"

[This message has been edited by MARTINSR (edited 09-14-2001).]

You must have worked on my car before I got it !~ it WAS held together with bondo!

------------------
Make it the way you like it, forget what the other guys say!
http://chevelles.com/showroom/alelcaminofront.jpg
http://chevelles.com/showroom/alelcaminoside.jpg

Thank you guys for talking to me. Now you know me in person "almost". I'm a real nice guy that always suckers myself into doing more work than I'm getting paid for. It has to do with always working and reputation. I prefer both so such is life. Our lives might get harder now, w/this situation. Keep your head up and get real with the world. Thank You.

283v8.......GO TO BED IT'S PAST YOUR BED TIME.