: gauge options '70 300 delux
gkopeck May 27th, 99, 5:27 AM is there a good reference for the plain ol' chevelle 1970 options, specifically gauges? i'm a big fan of monitoring engine perf like RMP, oil, temp, etc. I try not to modify my chevelle too much from 'original'. i've searched around and most topics reference the SS options. We poor non-SS owners should form a union...
thanks in advance
gregg
Buck Mustard May 27th, 99, 6:09 AM A union? So we get better wages and working conditions? http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif
Do you have the sweep speedo dash, the idiot light dash (round holes with idiot lights), or the gauge dash (round holes with gauges)?
Buck
Proud owner of a customized '70 Malibu
gkopeck May 27th, 99, 9:55 AM sweep - if you mean the huge 3' speedometer gauge. idiot lights and fuel gauge, that's it.
Cam May 27th, 99, 10:07 AM I'll agree that the 300's (except the '69 300-based SS) came with just the sweep speedo. In have heard of instances at GM where a customer was told that something was unavailable, only to have the customer cancel the order. GM countered with 'O.K., we'll build it the way you want". Such instances were pretty rare, and today likely impossible.
Jason Shulenberger May 27th, 99, 10:17 AM It is my understanding that the gauge package could have been special ordered on any car in 70-72. (Unless someone can correct me on this.)
gkopeck May 27th, 99, 12:36 PM the gauge package, then, would be the same as what was standard on the SS? hmmm. does the SS dash say SS on it? i wouldn't want to have such an obvious change on the car.
Jason Shulenberger May 27th, 99, 2:04 PM No SS emblem on the dash.
plain 69 May 27th, 99, 7:37 PM I have a friend that has a 70 chevelle malibu
convertible with a 4-speed and 2 barrel 350
and he had the factory guage package with the round pods. He even has a build sheet to
prove it.
Coppertop May 28th, 99, 10:06 AM It's like this guys. For the 70-72's, the sweep guage(long rectangular speedo)dash cluster was standard except if it was a genuine SS. If you ordered an SS, the guages were not standard!!!!! The basic SS(default) dash had the SS style 3 pod cluster, but inside were idiot lights. If you ordered the guage package (at extra cost) you got your 3 pod dash with rpm tach, etc.
Since this was an option and not a standard, it is possible for someone with a Malibu to order the fully functional 3 pod gauge cluster. The only catch I can see is the car had to have a V-8 in it. (Because the tach was wired for 8 cylinders).
So... I wouldn't be surprised if there was a stock '70 300 Deluxe out there with the guage package original from the factory.
Joe (proud owner of a '70 Malibu coupe w/ sweep guages).
[This message has been edited by Coppertop (edited 05-28-99).]
Buck Mustard May 28th, 99, 10:30 AM So would a non-SS car ever have the SS dash (with idiot lights) as stock equipment?
Are we saying on a non-SS car the only possibilities are the standard sweep dash or (if upgraded to gauge package) the full SS gauge dash?
The SS idiot light dash would have to have been installed after the car left the factory?
Jason Shulenberger May 28th, 99, 11:18 AM That sounds logical Buck.
Of course the Heavy Chevy (non SS) is then a factor. I believe it came standard with the round idiot light setup. (with option to upgrade)
Keep in mind that Oil was always an idiot light setup. No factory gauge for that.
DZAUTO May 28th, 99, 11:56 AM I cannot speak for the dash (unfortunately), but my 72 wagon came with some things that multiple salesmen TOLD me that I COULD NOT get! Well, I did. I had to put down a $500., non-refundable deposit. That was a lot for a guy fresh out of college in 1972. I got the wagon with full pwr, ac, BB, Muncie, CI hood (WITHOUT STRIPES), and the base 14in wheels and blackwalls (back then cars came with 5 of the same wheels/tires, and Ralley wheels would not fit into the spare tire hole of a wagon so I took delivery with the base wheels and bought 8" Ralleys and WL tires to install after delivery), and 12bolt 3.31 posi. I tried and tried and tried to get the SS/gage dash, but could not. Even though the wagon shell still exists, I have no proof and no build sheet. My point is, even though certain options were only available on certain models, if you knew or were pushy enough, you COULD get some things which were not normally available.
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DZAUTO May 28th, 99, 11:56 AM I cannot speak for the dash (unfortunately), but my 72 wagon came with some things that multiple salesmen TOLD me that I COULD NOT get! Well, I did. I had to put down a $500., non-refundable deposit. That was a lot for a guy fresh out of college in 1972. I got the wagon with full pwr, ac, BB, Muncie, CI hood (WITHOUT STRIPES), and the base 14in wheels and blackwalls (back then cars came with 5 of the same wheels/tires, and Ralley wheels would not fit into the spare tire hole of a wagon so I took delivery with the base wheels and bought 8" Ralleys and WL tires to install after delivery), and 12bolt 3.31 posi. I tried and tried and tried to get the SS/gage dash, but could not. Even though the wagon shell still exists, I have no proof and no build sheet. My point is, even though certain options were only available on certain models, if you knew or were pushy enough, you COULD get some things which were not normally available.
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Rainer May 28th, 99, 1:26 PM I'll also verify that the SS style gauge dash could be ordered on non-SS cars in '70. I just bought a 70 Malibu conv. with the gauge package, and have both a build sheet and window sticker for documentation. The option is listed as "Special Instrumentation" on the window sticker, option code U14. On the build sheet its identified as "IP Gauges."
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Rainer
'68 SS396
'70 LS3 400 Malibu
& the newest - '70 Malibu convertible!
rseitz@pacifier.com
[This message has been edited by Rainer (edited 05-28-99).]
Just to clarify, the round idiot light cluster was standard on the SS and Monte Carlo, and not available on others. The round guage cluster was offered on 2-door Malibus if full gauges were ordered. Remember, Chevy called it the special instrument cluster when describing the standard idiot light package on the SS. Tricky of them.
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