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: Had a thought about body filler today


Quadzilla
Dec 7th, 00, 3:56 PM
After running around my house with a few cans of "Great Stuff", a polyeurothane foam, I had a though about it being rahter usefull in filling voids in sheet metal, as oppoosed to using a whole can of bondo. If you were to hose the area, then cut it down and then sand and fill with bondo it would probably not do to badly.

Any thoughts on this?

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drptop70ss
Dec 7th, 00, 5:25 PM
If you have gaps big enough that need to be filled with foam, or any amount of bondo (which is not for filling holes other than maybe a 1/8" trim hole, and really all holes should be welded shut not filled) then the body work isnt finished, or is horribly wrong. Now if you want to fill rust holes on a winter beater, go ahead and use foam, but dont expect it to look good.

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Tom Lasater
Dec 7th, 00, 5:37 PM
Back in 77 when Pontiac released the "new" Grand Prix they had some problems with wind noise on cars with "T" tops and we would fill the A pillar with a two part jizz that looks just like "Great Stuff". I had an old car with holes in the bottoms of both quarter panels and guess what I used to shall we say, bridge the gap!! The service manager had a cow when he saw how much of that stuff was used..Trimmed the excess with a Buck knife then painted the foam flat black. Charp Chort.

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70isfine
Dec 7th, 00, 7:15 PM
I had a honda accord,which were famaous for rusting out around the filler neck.the neck would just flap around in the pocket,so i filled it with great stuff and trimmed it back and painted it.looked good.i later got a recall notice for this problem.i took it to the dealer and im sure they where in shock when they discovered my handy work!also had major rot in the rockers.just cover the holes with duct tape and fill it with great stuff,trim as needed and undercaot,the inspection mechanic didn't even take a second look.this is ok on hondas,fords,ect. but not recomended on a classic chevy. http://members.spree.com/entertainment/ochrisl/

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mr409
Dec 8th, 00, 5:35 AM
Sounds better than what an old guy did in my area many years ago.

He patched up the quarters on his 65 Biscayne 4 door with cement! (yep, the stuff your garage floor is made of!) Years later it was in the junk yard and I got to see it up close...you wouldn't have approved! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/eek.gif

Then there was another guy that patched holes in his trunk with old rags and tar! Yuck!!

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Quadzilla
Dec 8th, 00, 6:41 AM
Well my thoughts weren't about to include tar or cement. I was actualy thinking about winter patching on already shot body metal. If I were to go and do it up right it would include metal and a torch... no bondo queens for me thank you. Bondo fenders always look like crap anyway.

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70isfine
Dec 9th, 00, 11:59 AM
i,m sure many of the cars we all have drooled over at shows and anywhere else have "bondo fenders".it is one of the necesary evils of having a straight body,unless you have a bunker full of original sheetmetal,which always isnt perfect either.i have seen some brand new panels with a wave or even dent in it.if filler work is done right by someone who knows what there doing it is almost impossible to tell.

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Quadzilla
Dec 9th, 00, 2:16 PM
usinf bondo to correct problems are one thing, forming 80% of the pannel is a whole'nutha.

I assume it will be okay af an interum measure.

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cjlandry
Dec 9th, 00, 2:49 PM
I hate to pop everyone's bubbles, but that stuff eats steel like candy. We use it on the rig to prevent environmental spills, and the places where it gets used are rusting badly. The steel, before the addition of "great stuff", was "demet coated" (sort of an industrial anti rust treatment), primed with two part polyurethane primer, and painted with two part polyurethane paint. The "great stuff" ate through the paint, primer, and demet coat so that it could go after the steel, which seems to be it's favorite meal. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/eek.gif

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PAUL R.
Dec 9th, 00, 3:22 PM
Also, avoid getting Great stuff on your hands, It is a pain to remove once it sets up (about 2 mins). Did some filling around the basement last week and still have some on my hands.Cjlandy, what type of rig are you running?

Quadzilla
Dec 9th, 00, 4:21 PM
The only fool proof method I have found for getting it off of your flesh is gasoline followed by a good abrasive then some bag balm.

I understand what happens with it going through all of the various coating but what would/could it to do to steel?

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cjlandry
Dec 9th, 00, 4:34 PM
Paul, it's a drilling rig. Inland posted barge, diesel/electric. We drill for oil and natural gas. Rig is equipped with 3-1200 HP D399 Caterpillars pushing Kato 1030KW generators. 7-1000 HP GE752 DC electric motors. 2000 HP Oilwell Drawworks, 2-2000 HP Oilwell triplex Pumps, 1000 HP Rotary table, 1200 HP Detroit 16V92 driving hydraulic pumps for the Tesco top drive.

I'm the Electrician/mechanic (aka mech-elect) every other week. I work seven days on and seven days off.

Right now we're drilling for gas in Dog Lake (south of Houma, Louisiana), contracted to Texaco.

I find that fine sandpaper works great for getting great stuff off your hands. Also works for super glue and other things. Yes, I am serious. It doesn't hurt unless you use a power sander. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/eek.gif

JSchramm
Dec 11th, 00, 10:44 AM
Great Stuff isn't closed cell, so it absorbs and retains water. You'll wind up promoting rust.