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: trans brake


bbpwr
Sep 7th, 06, 9:40 PM
what do you know ? do,s and dont,s . to street or not to street and why . fill me in a lil on the trans brake will it live behind a street driven car . and if so do you have to use the brake to start off or can you simply choose to use the brake or not ?

mls48341
Sep 7th, 06, 9:51 PM
The brake is solenoid activated, you use it only when you want to. The trans
will work normally without the brake.

driver
Sep 7th, 06, 9:58 PM
Are you racing? If it's a street car you'll have no use for it.

blazerbob
Sep 8th, 06, 1:18 AM
Don't run a transbrake on a street car. Would be easy to engage while driving and ruin the trans or much worse cause an accident! Transbrake is for serious drag use only! Unless you have race suspension it will fry the tires!

BillyGman
Sep 8th, 06, 2:24 AM
If you have a Pro-tree transbrake ( which is usually your common garden variety transbrake) it has to be used to back the car up out of parking spaces. You'll need to put the shifter into Nuetral, and press the transbrake in order to back the car up, and if you back the car up in reverse, you can ruin the transmission. That's what is says on the directions of my TH400 transmission which has a transbrake.

scotty
Sep 8th, 06, 11:16 AM
If you have a decent tire, get one. They are great for launching hard. I have run one on the street for 6 years now and LOVE it, use it all the time. They do not hurt the trans. They only downside is you lose the automatic feature of the trans.

camaroman7d
Sep 8th, 06, 11:22 AM
My understanding was that the elevated line pressure was not good for street use. I have never run one on the street so I can't say. I would suggest you talk to a few performance tranny shops/builders. I know there are a couple on this board that know their stuff. You might want to have this post moved to the tranny section to see if one of the more experienced tranny guys will respond.

bbpwr
Sep 8th, 06, 12:02 PM
well i guess all my questions been ansered . no its primarily a street car , but was wondering since im soon to get my trans fixed thought id get some info on a trans brake . for what im doin i dont think i need one. thanks guys for the info.

BillyGman
Sep 8th, 06, 12:22 PM
If you have a decent tire, get one. They are great for launching hard. I have run one on the street for 6 years now and LOVE it, use it all the time. They do not hurt the trans. They only downside is you lose the automatic feature of the trans.Scott, since I'm about to install a TH400 with a transbrake in my street car, do you have any suggestions for me? I'll be driving it on the street quite often, and it's also a pump gas engine that I have too.

Where do you think is the best place for me to mount the transbrake button for a good compromise of convenience and safety?

scotty
Sep 8th, 06, 5:39 PM
I wired mine through a switch I have under the dash, I have to flip the switch before I hit the brake button. I did this for when my wife takes the car so she can't get hurt. I have the button hidden on the side of the console right next to the shifter. I let go of the button with my thumb, grab the shifter and start pulling gears.

cromedss
Sep 8th, 06, 8:53 PM
mmmm...transbrake.....tire frying....sounds sweeeeeeettttttt....

Elkyholic
Sep 8th, 06, 11:12 PM
make shure you have a bad ass transmission cooler if your gonna run one of these the longer you engage the transbrake the higher chance you have of overheating the transmission and destroying it. When i was in the process of building up my 350 trans i was really set on installing a transbrake but my transmission instructor said it was a really bad idea to use this on a daily drivin street car. But hey if its a weekend car or a toy then go for it and have fun. From what i know when the transbrake is enguaged the transmission is put into drive and reverse at the same time causing you to rev up high before a launch. and from what i know when you install a transbrake youll have a reverse valvebody so your gear selector will look like this p r n d 1 2 3.

BillyGman
Sep 9th, 06, 2:23 AM
Yep, I have a reverse shift pattern on mine, and I think that's best with a full manual valvebody. That way, if ypou're using a ratchet shifter ( like I will be) going from Park to 1st gear is only 3 clicks instead of 5 clicks, and the same with going from 1st back to park.

As for me, I don't plan on using my transbrake very often on the street ( if at all). It's mainly for the track. And yes, from what I understand, the temperature of the trans fluid can rise real fast while the transbrake button is pressed.

chevguy65
Sep 9th, 06, 11:51 AM
Why not just go with a line lock?

Cheaper than a transbrake and way less hassle.....you can still preload on a launch and do great smokey tire burnouts while having your tranny remain street friendly.

bbpwr
Sep 9th, 06, 11:53 AM
i think i will stick to the full forward manual set up . was just gathering information. with a mike lewis built 540 on the way in the near furture i dont think i will have to much trouble frying tires. and with 600plus foot pounds at 3,000 rpm i see no problem breaking the pro tour style zr rated tires loose in a hurry. was just trying to educate myself on the transbrake as everytime i see one listed for sale at a tranny shop there is always a warning that says not recomended for street use so i was trying to learn why. since my ride will reside 90% on the street and at car shows i dont really think i need a trans brake. although it would be fun. anyways thanks for the info and the input guys. :beers:

SSchevy400
Sep 9th, 06, 1:24 PM
Why not just go with a line lock?

Cheaper than a transbrake and way less hassle.....you can still preload on a launch and do great smokey tire burnouts while having your tranny remain street friendly.

If its like my car...preloading the suspension makes a worse launch. I'll just spin if i preload. Where as a transbrake would'nt allow the suspension to get any preload. All you get is the hard launch when the button is released. I dont see how a line lock would help a lauch anyway, wouldnt it be the same as footbraking?

chevguy65
Sep 9th, 06, 1:51 PM
exactly the same as footbraking.......just wanted to give a streetable comparison to the transbrake......

I do agree with the preload issue but at 1500 rpm it isn't that bad.

SSchevy400
Sep 9th, 06, 1:59 PM
exactly the same as footbraking.......just wanted to give a streetable comparison to the transbrake......

I do agree with the preload issue but at 1500 rpm it isn't that bad.

I understand what you were getting at now. haha 1500 isnt that bad for footbraking huh....thats idle for me ;) haha

chevguy65
Sep 9th, 06, 2:19 PM
lol 1500 idle...cool.....btw nice Nova

BillyGman
Sep 9th, 06, 2:59 PM
Why not just go with a line lock?

Cheaper than a transbrake and way less hassle.....you can still preload on a launch and do great smokey tire burnouts while having your tranny remain street friendly.If you just want to do burnouts, then all is you need is a line lock, yes. But for launching the car at the dragstrip, a transbrake is supposed to be better if your tires and suspension are up to snuff, because loading up the torque converter with a transbrake does NOT load up the suspension too like footbraking and line locking does. You don't want your suspension being loaded up until after the car begins to move, and that's what a transbrake is good for. It will prevent the suspensioin from being loaded before the car is moving.

chevguy65
Sep 9th, 06, 6:41 PM
I do understand the difference between a transbrake and a line lock....as I stated before it was simply done as a comparison and to give him an option for street use without the worry, expense and hassle of installing and using a transbrake.....1500 rpm is not much of a preload..........thanks

BillyGman
Sep 9th, 06, 7:52 PM
I do understand the difference between a transbrake and a line lock....as I stated before it was simply done as a comparison and to give him an option for street use without the worry, expense and hassle of installing and using a transbrake.....1500 rpm is not much of a preload..........thanks Okay, I just wanted to make sure that he understood that before he makes his decision.

chevguy65
Sep 9th, 06, 7:58 PM
Glad you made your point....again.....

BillyGman
Sep 9th, 06, 8:14 PM
Glad you made your point....again.....Hmmm....a little testy, aren't we???

chevguy65
Sep 9th, 06, 9:51 PM
Hmmm....a little testy, aren't we???
LMAO..... :clonk: