Is there a "guide" for verifying say a '65?

This guide (http://www.chevelles.com/shop/ss_ident.html) that everyone here points to is for '68 and newer.

Since the prices of SS are so much more than plain jaines... might as well make sure I am getting what I am paying for.

Also, with all the forging of info and vins and build sheets that I have read about on here, how does one really know if what they are getting is the real deal... a true 138 car.

Thanks!
Jim

Its hard to just spot a real SS car, but most of the members sure can smell em, LOL:D

For 64-67 open the driver's side door and check out the VIN number on the jamb by the hinge. I believe you could verify SS status from 64 -68 using the VIN.
Here is a link for 65 chevelles:
http://www.chevelles.com/ref/65main.shtml
Steve

Use the search function at top of page and type in "real SS" or similar verbage, it has been discussed before. In 64 the vin decodes first digit 4 for model year, second and third 57 or 58 (6 or 8 cyl SS), fourth and fifth body type (usually 37 (hardtop), 67 (convert) or 80 (Elky), sixth is assembly plant letter, last 6 are sequential number built at that plant that year starting with 100001. 65-67 is similar second and third are 38 for SS. In 64 & 65 SS was a trim option, not performance option with a specific engine. In 66 SS was a specific performance option with 396 engine and other upgrades (a search will turn up threads that list them). Also search for thread with the term "is this a real SS" for critical analysis of cars showing up on ebay that have been disceted here.

It was my understanding, from reading quite a few threads on here that people are forging these.

Is there a definate way to tell or in the end is it just a guess?

I have a guyI am going o have to drive 5 hours to check out. He says the vin checks out, but he is trying to sell the car. The Engine and Transmission have been beefed up in the last couple years.

Thanks again

It was my understanding, from reading quite a few threads on here that people are forging these.

Is there a definate way to tell or in the end is it just a guess?

I have a guyI am going o have to drive 5 hours to check out. He says the vin checks out, but he is trying to sell the car. The Engine and Transmission have been beefed up in the last couple years.

Thanks again

As stated above, a real SS VIN will contain 457/458xx in 1964 and 137/138xx in 1965 and 138xx from 66 through 68. Sadly there will always be those that fake SS cars for a profit, the 64 to 68 are just a bit harder because the VIN 'proves' it one way or the other. From 1969 through 1972 (with one exception), it's impossible to tell by the VIN if the Chevelle was born with the SS option. Paperwork helps but to the unsuspecting buyer, it can be faked as well and seller can always claim, "...that's what I was told."

Since swapping VINs (not the Fisher Body plate [aka trim tag, cowl tag, firewall tag] but the Vehicle Identification Number plate) is a felony in every state I have heard from here on TC and other sites, a seller is taking a big chance on a relatively NOT high return on investment by swapping a 138xx VIN plate to a Malibu. The current title or registration of the car should have the VIN and that should match the VIN plate on the car. If it does not match, seller has (1) an illegally registered car or (2) non-matching paperwork whether they know it or not.