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: new body work and paint - whatdya think??


jogsoid
Jul 19th, 02, 5:43 AM
i know there's a lot of factors that go into getting body work and a new paint job (the condition of the car, who does it, etc..)
but i wanted to ask you guys if this sounds ok..

the guy says he has no problems getting the paint i want (an original 66 color), he uses sherwin williams, and claims that everyshop uses bondo, "if they tell you they dont, theyre lying", has never heard of POR-15 (not that i have untill recently) and it will take about 2 months

I have no problem with waiting, doesnt sound unreasonable, and he's a really nice guy which goes a long way, my car does a have a few small dents, and a few rust spots, nothing severe, he'll also paint the jambs and under the trunk, the bill will be $3,500

whatdya think??
thanks.. www.66chevelle.com (http://www.66chevelle.com)

Rick Bandy
Jul 19th, 02, 9:18 AM
Your cars condition looks very similar to what I have going and I would be extremely happy if I can get mine done for $3500.00.
It looks like you may have done something to the rear deck and possibly changed the deck lid, is that correct? I have to do my deck panel and one lower quarter panel.

70el_66Ch
Jul 19th, 02, 9:36 AM
I'm with Rick, If I could get it done for that LITTLE I would have been very happy. But That is not my case, I will have that much in panel replacement costs alone.
It sounds like a good deal, I recommend getting everything in writing so there is no confusion at the end and you are not disappointed with the experience.

What color are you painting it?

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283v8
Jul 19th, 02, 10:53 AM
I agree with 70el_66Ch - write it down so there is no disagreement when it is done. Keep a copy, give one to him.
Also look at a car he has done or has onsite and agree as to the finished quality as in "it will be as straight and glossy, and - - - - - - as that one right there"
Verbal agreements on body and paint are subject to ALOT of variance in opinion.
The $8000 paint job show car that you saw sitting at his shop may NOT be what he is agreeing to do to your car.

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more ambition than brains
Jul 19th, 02, 5:02 PM
Car should be stripped, body work done then painted. If he is just going to surface sand, repair and fill dents, paint complete including jambs, the price is probably reasonable or even TOO cheap. What happens when car is being prepped and rust holes or old body repairs become evident. In most cases those repairs would ADDITIONAL unless specified otherwise. THE PROBLEM IS, REPAIR PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE X-RAY VISION. If you have had no prior dealings with this person, be sure you have a clear understanding on all possible additional costs. Be prepared to spend more $$$$ as repair proceeds. I am not implying that the repair person is not good or ethical. Both parties SHOULD expect surprises during this project. This type of repair ALWAYS takes more time & $$$$ if it is being done well. Karl

Randy Mosier
Jul 19th, 02, 6:53 PM
He's a body man who is set up to turn vehicles out as quick as possible, because he is also a businessman. Por 15 is used mostly by hobbyists who take the time to meticulously treat every bit of rust on their cars, and it's not likely to be used by your average body shop. Cutting out rust, welding in new metal and treating with Por is very time consuming. You won't get that for $3500. The same goes for body filler. He's using bondo becasue that's the way he has always done it. He see no need to try anything new because bondo has worked just fine for him. That's not saying he's not good at his job. He's simply accustomed to doing the job the only way he knows how.

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chev64
Jul 19th, 02, 9:19 PM
I think Sandlewood Tan would be a great color, you don't see that too often. Jon Haislip had a 66 that color and it looked great.

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GVMLS6
Jul 20th, 02, 12:11 AM
I've said this before.A production body shop is the worst place to take your restoration project. They simply can't afford to to justice to your car. Especially for $3500.00 For that price you will get sub standard work that will be full of surprises down the road. This is not the place to price shop. If the shop isn't working on a "time and material" basis, don't expect much quality.
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jogsoid
Jul 20th, 02, 2:38 AM
Thanks for all the insight guys !!

-Dan (70el_66ch) please email me, where did you get that hood, that has to be fiberglass right? - jogso@email.com

Jimmy P
Jul 21st, 02, 12:49 AM
I gotta ask, what the heck does jogsoid mean anyway?
I dig your your 66 all day long! I had one in the same condition about 6 years ago. My neighbor bought it and screwed it up from day one. I rescued the poor thing and applied a super straight black paint job and a 396 to it and sold it. I really wish I had that car now! Whatever you do, do it right and do it good and you won't go wrong. You're on the right path!

John D
Jul 21st, 02, 1:16 AM
You've only waited 4 years? I've owned my Elky for 11 now, and am finally gotten around to turning wrenches! The guilt vibes it was throwing at me finally overcame, and I put down the hammer and nails (house projects) and started!
Go with the Sandlewood, it's a great color.

jogsoid
Jul 21st, 02, 7:19 AM
it means, well, a few things, but nothin really, at least not worth mentioning, thanks guys for all the positive and informative remarks..

i feel bad about the four years it took, but it should be completely done (whatever that means) by october or so, (i hope)