: Preping car for cheap paint job
72sselcamino Dec 19th, 02, 2:16 PM Take a look at the 67 Elky (http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/72sselcamino/67.jpg). I'm going to store it outside. Some of you may remember an earlier post.
Anyway, I want to do a cheap paint job just so it won't rust under the tarp's. A guy told me to use something called Rust Mort? from PPG. He said to sand it lightly, then apply.
Since the car will eventually be took back down to bare metal, I thought about painting it with Rustoleum, http://www.chevelles.com/forum/rolleyes.gif just to seal the primer. As you can see in the pic(I hope it's big enough) the whole car has severe surface rust. I tried sanding on it with some 60 grit, but it's been so long, now the metal is pitted. What grit will I need to get the pitting out in the future.
Should I just skip the Rust Mort, rough up the primer, and use the Rustoleum. Any advice. Thank's, Cal
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ChicagoChevelle68 Dec 19th, 02, 3:54 PM I would shoot it with rattle can primer, since it's only a temp covering anyway. On the pits, I really don't know.
Perhaps you can decrease the size of your pic, takes too long to load.
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d1_bradley Dec 19th, 02, 4:14 PM I'm no where near a 'paint expert' but I don't think a "standard" type of primer will protect it from rusting. To do that, you need a Urethane or Epoxy type primer. And it needs to be rust free BEFORE applying it. Maybe MartinSr will pipe in here.
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Buzzbomb Dec 19th, 02, 9:46 PM You are wasting time and money with rattle can primer...that primer will do nothing to but HELP moisture get to the bare metal. I wouldnt even waste my time with the Rustoleum. It is A LOT of work to strip a car, and I sure as hell wouldnt want to do it twice! If it was me, I'd spend the money and put it in a storage unit or some other type of enclosure. It would be SO worth it in the end. Cheap rattle can crap is a BIG waste of time and money, unless of course you have plenty of both to waste and actually ENJOY restripping to the metal.
As for sanding the surface rust off, 60 is probably too light- I'd use a grittier paper (40 maybe) then progressively finer grits.
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70isfine Dec 19th, 02, 11:14 PM The damage that will be done from storing a car outdoors most likley will not be on the painted surfaces.It will be on the underside of the car,inside the trunk,and from critters getting inside of it.I dont think painting it with a spray can will get you any added protection.I would get one of those big bubbles that you can put the car in.
BIGMOE65 Dec 20th, 02, 2:51 PM If your stripping the car in the future the rustmort will work fine, I think its just an acid based product that kills rust, you can use loctite extend also, it works great.
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more ambition than brains Dec 20th, 02, 9:38 PM Cal, If you are only going to store it for another season, dont worry about tyring to slow down the rust you already have. Sounds like you are planning on keeping the car. I am glad you didn't let it go away. One more winter in it's present form won't be the end of the world. The rust WILL continue, however, unless you can take it ALL the way down, etch prime, prime, and seal with some color, it is unlikely that any efforts you make willl be worthwhile. That being said, if it is going to sit outside for a long time you will have to do something. The problem is, if you put plastic over it, the plastic will hold moisture in. Try and store it in a sunny spot,(south side), keep the snow off, and hope for the best. Best option is to keep it inside, in a WELL ventilated area of low moisture. Karl P.S. Maybe I should just buy it from you, with or without motor. Can't do it now, but in the spring, let's talk.
65chevellesecondlife Dec 20th, 02, 9:48 PM How about wiping motor oil all over the sheet metal until you ready to work on it. Will this keep it from rusting or do I have no idea what I'm talking about.
72sselcamino Dec 21st, 02, 1:17 AM Thank's for all the replies.
Karl, the biggest problem I have is that there are no window's in the car. So I have to put a tarp over at least that part.
How hard is it to deal with the pitted metal. Do you grind it out, or fill the pit's. Thank's, Cal
more ambition than brains Dec 21st, 02, 8:13 PM Aware that there is no glass in your Elky. For now there is little value in worrying about rust pits. I know you will probably have to bag it. Try to do it in a manner that will allow it to get some ventilation. When I did mine, the entire vehicle was either sandblasted, or chemically stripped. There are some new abrasive tools that do a very good job of getting corrosion out of deep rust pits. If you don't go all the way through and have a pin hole in the metal, and ALL rust is out of pit, I like a product like Evercoat--Metal To Metal, works well for filling those evil pits. Good example is under windshield sealing surface. Good Luck Karl
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