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: Need a fuel pump recomendation


Burnsamatic
May 9th, 06, 12:47 PM
Looking for a good street /strip pump(mechanical) that doesn't require a regulator. Any suggestions?

Nolowrider
May 9th, 06, 1:38 PM
I don't think any mechanical pump "requires" a regulator, but it is a good idea to install one. I just bought this pump. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D250022%2D1&N=0&autoview=sku

mc71454
May 9th, 06, 3:19 PM
Looking for a good street /strip pump(mechanical) that doesn't require a regulator. Any suggestions?

Small Block or Big Block. I have both on Ebay right now (both are Carter 172's)

Burnsamatic
May 9th, 06, 6:08 PM
Big block

92Camaro
May 11th, 06, 12:38 PM
I used the Carter Street pump on a 454 engine that I did for a friend. That pump dose not require a regulator. The race pump will, it will have over 7 to 9 lbs of fuel pressure. F.Y.I: the pump holds a great prime, lets say you were driving the car, shut it off, it sat for a while, then restarted the car. It will start with out pumping the pedal to re start it. I always talk a customer into a Carter Mechanical pump when I assemble a engine.

Ron Miller 92 Camaro
Brownstown, Mi

Rich-L79
May 11th, 06, 12:45 PM
I used the Carter Street pump on a 454 engine that I did for a friend. That pump dose not require a regulator. The race pump will, it will have over 7 to 9 lbs of fuel pressure. F.Y.I: the pump holds a great prime, lets say you were driving the car, shut it off, it sat for a while, then restarted the car. It will start with out pumping the pedal to re start it. I always talk a customer into a Carter Mechanical pump when I assemble a engine.

Ron Miller 92 Camaro
Brownstown, Mi

The fuel pump has nothing to do with needing to or not needing to pump the pedal to start the engine.

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You will likely get lots of recommendations for the Carter 172gpm pump, and it is a good one. Just be aware that this pump requires the use of AN fittings to connect to the fuel line and to the line that feeds the carb. They do not have tapered pipe threads in the body of the pump which would allow you to install more typical pipe thread/flared fuel line fittings so you are stuck with modifying your fuel lines to AN fittings if you don't already have them.

Motorhead62
May 11th, 06, 12:56 PM
I have had good luck with Edelbrock Performer and Holley HP street pumps. :D

92Camaro
May 11th, 06, 1:21 PM
The fuel pump has nothing to do with needing to or not needing to pump the pedal to start the engine.

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You will likely get lots of recommendations for the Carter 172gpm pump, and it is a good one. Just be aware that this pump requires the use of AN fittings to connect to the fuel line and to the line that feeds the carb. They do not have tapered pipe threads in the body of the pump which would allow you to install more typical pipe thread/flared fuel line fittings so you are stuck with modifying your fuel lines to AN fittings if you don't already have them.
Rich-L79, I think you miss read Burnsmatic question ! He Quoted: Looking for a good street /strip pump(mechanical) that doesn't require a regulator. Any suggestions?

Also you're Quote:
The fuel pump has nothing to do with needing to or not needing to pump the pedal to start the engine.

Could you elaborate on this, may be I could learn some thing about mechanical fuel pumps !

Ron Miller 92 Camaro
Brownstown, Mi

Rich-L79
May 11th, 06, 3:44 PM
Rich-L79, I think you miss read Burnsmatic question ! He Quoted: Looking for a good street /strip pump(mechanical) that doesn't require a regulator. Any suggestions?

Also you're Quote:
The fuel pump has nothing to do with needing to or not needing to pump the pedal to start the engine.

Could you elaborate on this, may be I could learn some thing about mechanical fuel pumps !

Ron Miller 92 Camaro
Brownstown, Mi

Yes, he asked for recommendations for a good pump. The Carter 172 was recommended a couple of times above and I recommend it as well. The Carter 172 is a mechanical pump and it shouldn't require a pressure regulator. But, if he decides to use that pump he should know that it requires AN fittings. If the car has stock style fuel line fittings, the Carter 172 will not be a simple bolt in swap. How exactly did I misunderstand the original question?

Pumping the pedal before starting the engine does two things:
1. resets the choke and fast idle if it has a choke and if the engine is cool enough allow the choke and fast idle to reset.
2. provides a squirt of raw fuel via the accelerator pump in the carb, this raw fuel provides an over rich situation which helps a carbed engine start especially when the engine is cold.

A mechancial fuel pump is a pump driven by the engine itself off of an eccentric on the camshaft. Once the engine is turning (even when cranking it to start), the fuel pump will be providing fuel pressure. An electric fuel pump is a pump driven by a small electric motor. While a mechanical fuel pump requires the engine to be turning over to provide fuel pressure an electric fuel pump can be wired to be turned on to provide fuel pressure prior to starting the engine.

Can you elaborate on how a fuel pump can have any impact on starting an engine? Regardless of the type of pump or the type of carb used, the carb should always have enough fuel in the fuel bowls to start the engine regardless of fuel being or not being delivered by the fuel pump. Even if the pump is "not holding a prime" as you say, there will still be fuel in the carb sufficient enough to start the engine unless it's been sitting a very long time and the fuel has all evaporated out of the carb.